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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Nov 12, 2023 9:39:12 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? Very fair questions. While young, I can see how some of the current athletes understand that it's a transition year with a new coach and there are going to be a lot of growing pains. That's more long-term thinking than some players might buy into, but it's a possibility. Players develop relationships at their current school. Other teammates, classmates/friends outside volleyball, their coaches, significant others. Those are strong pulls to keep people in place sometimes. Minnesota has an exceptional volleyball community, which includes a top-notch program with facilities and likely resources that the majority of other schools do not have. They play in front of knowledgeable crowds that regularly number over 5000 fans. Minnesota is a reputable research university with a huge campus located in a major metropolitan area/progressive city. And of course the ultimate draw: the weather is perfect year-round.
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Post by GoGophs on Nov 12, 2023 9:47:19 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? 1. Big fan base 2. Good school in the big ten 3. Historic program with lots of support from the school and the state for volleyball 4. Coaches with a history of success and USA ties There’s been a lot of complaining from fans about coaching decisions this year, and rightfully so sometimes… but it’s the first season with this team and there’s obviously something going on behind the scenes that we aren’t aware of as fans. I suspect next season will look a lot different than this one. New recruits love KCook and co and are excited to be Gophers. It’s one rough year under a new coach, recruits understand that and are fully on board with this coaching staff and the vision they have for the program.
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Post by bounce22 on Nov 12, 2023 10:07:46 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? Very fair questions. While young, I can see how some of the current athletes understand that it's a transition year with a new coach and there are going to be a lot of growing pains. That's more long-term thinking than some players might buy into, but it's a possibility. Players develop relationships at their current school. Other teammates, classmates/friends outside volleyball, their coaches, significant others. Those are strong pulls to keep people in place sometimes. Minnesota has an exceptional volleyball community, which includes a top-notch program with facilities and likely resources that the majority of other schools do not have. They play in front of knowledgeable crowds that regularly number over 5000 fans. Minnesota is a reputable research university with a huge campus located in a major metropolitan area/progressive city. And of course the ultimate draw: the weather is perfect year-round. Thanks for that. I can completely understand all of those points especially being a Canadian resident. I say that because on court success doesn’t drive many university programs up here because not many programs actually care if they win (they say they do but WHAT they do indicates the reality plus a coach rarely loses their job because they’re not getting results). So I see why athletes come or remain in universities up here even if the program has zero chance to win on court. Also, if you transfer, you must sit out a year before playing for your new team. However, is it not much more success driven in the U.S.? How many great local athletes remain there to play and how many leave because they perceive it as their best chance to win a championship? Wasn’t Sydney Hilley from around there and, if she was, I wonder if she ever considered staying? Or is this much more of a cultural thing where students seem to often leave their home state for post-secondary? Once again, not trying to say this isn’t a great program, I’m just curious about what items in Minnesota that possibly check off an athlete’s “needed for winning” box? Everyone has different reasons for going somewhere and volleyball certainly shouldn’t be the main reason I would think. I would imagine it ain’t easy to get top recruits no matter who you are so I assume the quality of the people you will be spending your 4 years with is paramount in the equation. Thanks for the insight - completely different world down there.
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Post by forvolley on Nov 12, 2023 11:32:41 GMT -5
How many years does each player on the current roster have? I’m a bit confused on covid years and red shirts.
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Post by vbman100 on Nov 12, 2023 11:48:18 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? And of course the ultimate draw: the weather is perfect year-round. That was a good try. You’re not getting that one through.
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Post by GoGophs on Nov 12, 2023 12:23:59 GMT -5
How many years does each player on the current roster have? I’m a bit confused on covid years and red shirts. Everyone has the opportunity to return besides Murr Shaff, Awoleye, Grote, and Mghie are all seniors with a Covid year to take next year if they choose to do so. Davis and Gray will be the only true seniors in ‘24 (first group without a Covid year) next season. Everyone else has at least 2 more years.
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Post by gopherhim on Nov 12, 2023 12:40:36 GMT -5
How many years does each player on the current roster have? I’m a bit confused on covid years and red shirts. 4 years left: Schnichels since she hasn’t played yet and will likely redshirt S. Swenson O. Swenson 3 years left: Minatee Palabiyik Ng since she redshirted freshman year 2 years left: Wucherer Crowl since she redshirted freshman year Landfair COVID year and medical redshirt year Hanson 1 year left: Gray Davis 1 “COVID year” left: Shaffmaster Grote McGhie Awoleye 0 years left: Murr
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Post by gopherhim on Nov 12, 2023 12:48:21 GMT -5
How many years does each player on the current roster have? I’m a bit confused on covid years and red shirts. Everyone has the opportunity to return besides Murr Shaff, Awoleye, Grote, and Mghie are all seniors with a Covid year to take next year if they choose to do so. Davis and Gray will be the only true seniors in ‘24 (first group without a Covid year) next season. Everyone else has at least 2 more years. oops didn’t see your post!
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Nov 12, 2023 13:29:04 GMT -5
And of course the ultimate draw: the weather is perfect year-round. That was a good try. You’re not getting that one through. Ha worth a shot.
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Post by courtwatchers on Nov 12, 2023 14:11:28 GMT -5
Here are the Final Stats from last season. We had a very effective middle game with the SAME SETTER, Shaff This season different coaches and one new MB player, while two of 4 MB's (who saw playing time) transferred out and 1 graduated. gophersports.com/sports/womens-volleyball/stats/2022
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Post by genej101 on Nov 12, 2023 15:23:52 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? Watching the fifth set of IU match. Missed the first but McKenna hasn’t played at all, Hanson has played relatively well. Cook IS using a DS finally and effectively. Taylor should be four rotations, she’s a liability in the back row and she only swings with full power 20% of the time, no idea why as that’s her only real weapon. Boyfriend or not, McKenna has played really well on the national teams, tournament mvp at least twice, and not playing her just makes me wonder when the transfer portal opens for volleyball. Watched via live stream the Wayzata win, New Prague really played them pretty well. Both the Swenson twins will help MN next year. Reuse’s column today noted that recruiting just got a lot harder with the west coast teams coming in - which I’ve been saying since that happened, if you can play in the best volleyball conference in the country why not do it in warmer weather? I think the conference erred in choosing money over keeping the conference relevant in other than men’s sports.
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Post by genej101 on Nov 12, 2023 15:31:41 GMT -5
Very fair questions. While young, I can see how some of the current athletes understand that it's a transition year with a new coach and there are going to be a lot of growing pains. That's more long-term thinking than some players might buy into, but it's a possibility. Players develop relationships at their current school. Other teammates, classmates/friends outside volleyball, their coaches, significant others. Those are strong pulls to keep people in place sometimes. Minnesota has an exceptional volleyball community, which includes a top-notch program with facilities and likely resources that the majority of other schools do not have. They play in front of knowledgeable crowds that regularly number over 5000 fans. Minnesota is a reputable research university with a huge campus located in a major metropolitan area/progressive city. And of course the ultimate draw: the weather is perfect year-round. Thanks for that. I can completely understand all of those points especially being a Canadian resident. I say that because on court success doesn’t drive many university programs up here because not many programs actually care if they win (they say they do but WHAT they do indicates the reality plus a coach rarely loses their job because they’re not getting results). So I see why athletes come or remain in universities up here even if the program has zero chance to win on court. Also, if you transfer, you must sit out a year before playing for your new team. However, is it not much more success driven in the U.S.? How many great local athletes remain there to play and how many leave because they perceive it as their best chance to win a championship? Wasn’t Sydney Hilley from around there and, if she was, I wonder if she ever considered staying? Or is this much more of a cultural thing where students seem to often leave their home state for post-secondary? Once again, not trying to say this isn’t a great program, I’m just curious about what items in Minnesota that possibly check off an athlete’s “needed for winning” box? Everyone has different reasons for going somewhere and volleyball certainly shouldn’t be the main reason I would think. I would imagine it ain’t easy to get top recruits no matter who you are so I assume the quality of the people you will be spending your 4 years with is paramount in the equation. Thanks for the insight - completely different world down there.H Hilley was from Champlin, across the river from me, as was Izzy Ashburn, the problem was that when she graduated Samantha Seliger-Swenson was a sophomore, she wasn’t going to sit two years behind her so Sheffield got her and her bff Ashburn followed. We had great success with SSS, the Tapp twins and Sarah Wilhite that group won a club national championship. Recruiting is going to be a lot tougher with the west coast schools, still think that explanation was a mistake, for the existing teams, maybe not for the west coast schools.
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Post by sptimes2 on Nov 12, 2023 15:52:32 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? Watching the fifth set of IU match. Missed the first but McKenna hasn’t played at all, Hanson has played relatively well. Cook IS using a DS finally and effectively. Taylor should be four rotations, she’s a liability in the back row and she only swings with full power 20% of the time, no idea why as that’s her only real weapon. Boyfriend or not, McKenna has played really well on the national teams, tournament mvp at least twice, and not playing her just makes me wonder when the transfer portal opens for volleyball. While I confess to having the same thoughts about now we're going to lose Wuchs to the portal, Cook has to be able to put his best team on the court. I still want her to stay at MN and have a breakthrough in her 3rd and 4th years (some have suggested a Wilhite comparison). However, the truth is she hasn't been playing well recently
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Post by genej101 on Nov 12, 2023 16:00:15 GMT -5
Watching Nebraska clobber Illinois and see Jordan Larson is now an assistant coach for John Cook. SHE is the kind of coach, experience or not (she was a coach on the floor, college, pro, Athlete’s Unlimited) I wanted MN to find. I will never understand why Hugh was not on the selection committee to replace himself. I’d happily say goodby to Keegan and replace him with Jordan Larson if she’d accept the job at the end of this season. Just my opinion, despite the win today. She can recruit with anyone I am certain, any elite athlete would love to play for her.
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Post by Snoopy on Nov 12, 2023 16:12:31 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? Why do you care then? Silly post.
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