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Post by stanfordvb on Nov 12, 2023 21:06:07 GMT -5
How do you know she can recruit? She hasn't had to do so before. Find it interesting that you want to replace a proven head coach with someone with no coaching experience simply because that person was a great player. Lindsey Whalen ring a bell? Is anyone hearing of dissent among the players due to the coaching staff? I haven't but I'm not close to the program as, I suspect, most on this forum are not as well. If she’s patient enough, she’s likely John Cook’s heir at Nebraska. no she's not
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 12, 2023 21:26:42 GMT -5
Remember when Hugh was a coach new to the Big Ten and his team didn’t make the NCAA tournament?
Good thing ole Genie here wasn’t in charge then, too!
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Post by Norah Sus on Nov 12, 2023 21:30:07 GMT -5
The Gophers are tied for 5th in the conference of 14 teams with an entirely new coaching staff.
Reading this thread you’d think they were 0-150 on the season and Taylor Landfair doesn’t know how to walk.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Nov 12, 2023 22:30:06 GMT -5
What??? We've never had a school with warmer weather than Minnesota? Certainly it's not a new concept that a recruit could consider one school over the other in the past, say forty(?), years based on weather? Some recruits have gone to Texas, San Diego, UCLA, Florida, Arizona. Some have gone to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn Sate, Pittsburgh. All PRIOR to the B1G change. Provide an example where any of those recruits that went to warmer schools have stated their choice was based on weather. I never said anyone did. I said that playing in the best volleyball conference in the nation provides a recruiting tool for USC and UCLA that they didn’t have prior to the expansion. That’s what might affect recruiting in the future. We’ll have to wait and see. That and I don’t see Keegan continuing the record Mike Hebert and Hugh set, I just don’t. Meredith Nelson (one of our best middles ever who also coached SSS, Paige, Hannah and Sarah to that club national title) does color on a lot of our games and she’s wondered aloud at some of the things he’s done too. Not critically, not her job, just wondering, so have I. I’ve been a season ticket holder here since the late 90’s and I really want that story to continue. I don’t think this coach and this expansion will help that. I’d love to be wrong and live to see it as I’m long retired. You suggested recruits may choose west coast schools based on weather: "Reuse’s column today noted that recruiting just got a lot harder with the west coast teams coming in - which I’ve been saying since that happened, if you can play in the best volleyball conference in the country why not do it in warmer weather?" I've attempted to contradict that notion by suggesting that weather is wildly over-considered when predicting which schools recruits will choose. You've gone on record in writing that weather will be a consideration. In fact, with the above quote I've included from your previous post, I get the strong impression that you think it's a foregone conclusion that cooler climates will get the raw end of the deal now that west coast schools are joining the B1G. I concede recruiting may be more challenging for current B1G schools in the near future. I'm just not giving nearly as much weight as you seem ready to do to the idea that climate will naturally be a driving factor in that increased challenge.
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Post by bounce22 on Nov 12, 2023 23:08:34 GMT -5
Haven’t followed much of The Gophers this year … appears it’s been a struggle. So question is I guess … if you are a top high school player and want to win, why do you come to Minnesota? If you are already here and want to win, why do you stay? Not trying to be gloom and doom but aren’t those the two pressing questions for this coaching staff? Why do you care then? Silly post. Don’t really “care” I suppose. Just curious about how programs present their case to athletes. It appears that Nebraska was able to convince some athletes they had a greater chance of winning a championship on the bench rather than on the floor with another’s program. I kinda find that strangely fascinating. I guess I’m just silly 🤪
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Post by Snoopy on Nov 12, 2023 23:55:09 GMT -5
Why do you care then? Silly post. Don’t really “care” I suppose. Just curious about how programs present their case to athletes. It appears that Nebraska was able to convince some athletes they had a greater chance of winning a championship on the bench rather than on the floor with another’s program. I kinda find that strangely fascinating. I guess I’m just silly 🤪 You mean like Ames?
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Post by bounce22 on Nov 13, 2023 13:55:03 GMT -5
Don’t really “care” I suppose. Just curious about how programs present their case to athletes. It appears that Nebraska was able to convince some athletes they had a greater chance of winning a championship on the bench rather than on the floor with another’s program. I kinda find that strangely fascinating. I guess I’m just silly 🤪 You mean like Ames? . 🤣. Yes …. Like Ames. I dunno - did she figure it out? I don’t know the exact story behind this but if you would like to enlighten me it would probably clarify NCAA committment rules as well as maybe explaining why athletes pivot on same and why the transfer portal has exploded.
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Post by skolgophers on Nov 13, 2023 16:24:48 GMT -5
Wanted to put a list together of our 2024 roster.
OH: McKenna Wucherer OH: Taylor Landfair OH: Olivia Swenson OH: Julia Hanson
MB: Arica Davis MB: Phoebe Awoleye MB: Calissa Minatee
OPP: Lydia Grote OPP: Lauren Crowl
S: Melanie Shaffmaster S: Elise Mcghie S: Chloe Ng S: Stella Swenson
DS/L: Zeynep Palayibik DS/L: Skylar Gray
Who will still be here for 2024 and why or why not?
Also, what portal additions will be made OR lost?
ETA: forgot one. OPP: Schnichels
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Post by genej101 on Nov 13, 2023 17:51:30 GMT -5
Remember when Hugh was a coach new to the Big Ten and his team didn’t make the NCAA tournament? Good thing ole Genie here wasn’t in charge then, too! I had no problems with Hugh, I knew he’d be able to recruit. I would have preferred a female coach then too because men have everything and always have, there are so many qualified women that I’d like to see men in the men’s games and women coaching in the women’s.
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Post by InTheKnow on Nov 13, 2023 17:55:53 GMT -5
Wow. Bad take.
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Post by ugopher on Nov 13, 2023 21:35:33 GMT -5
I never said anyone did. I said that playing in the best volleyball conference in the nation provides a recruiting tool for USC and UCLA that they didn’t have prior to the expansion. That’s what might affect recruiting in the future. We’ll have to wait and see. That and I don’t see Keegan continuing the record Mike Hebert and Hugh set, I just don’t. Meredith Nelson (one of our best middles ever who also coached SSS, Paige, Hannah and Sarah to that club national title) does color on a lot of our games and she’s wondered aloud at some of the things he’s done too. Not critically, not her job, just wondering, so have I. I’ve been a season ticket holder here since the late 90’s and I really want that story to continue. I don’t think this coach and this expansion will help that. I’d love to be wrong and live to see it as I’m long retired. You suggested recruits may choose west coast schools based on weather: "Reuse’s column today noted that recruiting just got a lot harder with the west coast teams coming in - which I’ve been saying since that happened, if you can play in the best volleyball conference in the country why not do it in warmer weather?" I've attempted to contradict that notion by suggesting that weather is wildly over-considered when predicting which schools recruits will choose. You've gone on record in writing that weather will be a consideration. In fact, with the above quote I've included from your previous post, I get the strong impression that you think it's a foregone conclusion that cooler climates will get the raw end of the deal now that west coast schools are joining the B1G. I concede recruiting may be more challenging for current B1G schools in the near future. I'm just not giving nearly as much weight as you seem ready to do to the idea that climate will naturally be a driving factor in that increased challenge. Someone in a different thread or forum made an interesting comment. Going to the B1G could hurt the west coast schools due the travel involved. Do potential recruits want to have to continually travel to the east coast to play Rutgers, Maryland, and PSU? Or, would they rather stay close at UCSB or LBSU where friends and family would have better opportunities to see them play. Interesting take.
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Post by skolgophers on Nov 13, 2023 21:54:15 GMT -5
Remember when Hugh was a coach new to the Big Ten and his team didn’t make the NCAA tournament? Good thing ole Genie here wasn’t in charge then, too! I had no problems with Hugh, I knew he’d be able to recruit. I would have preferred a female coach then too because men have everything and always have, there are so many qualified women that I’d like to see men in the men’s games and women coaching in the women’s. Sorry to burst your bubble. But regardless of gender, I suspect they chose the most qualified coach up for consideration. I am a female as well, so no one come for me. I don’t want them choosing a female coach just because she’s a female. That’s absolutely ridiculous. The best coaches I ever had in club, high school, etc were MALES. If it were DBK v Cook, they would have probably chosen DBK. Stop trying to make this into a gender thing when it shouldn’t be.
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Post by skolgophers on Nov 13, 2023 21:55:50 GMT -5
You suggested recruits may choose west coast schools based on weather: "Reuse’s column today noted that recruiting just got a lot harder with the west coast teams coming in - which I’ve been saying since that happened, if you can play in the best volleyball conference in the country why not do it in warmer weather?" I've attempted to contradict that notion by suggesting that weather is wildly over-considered when predicting which schools recruits will choose. You've gone on record in writing that weather will be a consideration. In fact, with the above quote I've included from your previous post, I get the strong impression that you think it's a foregone conclusion that cooler climates will get the raw end of the deal now that west coast schools are joining the B1G. I concede recruiting may be more challenging for current B1G schools in the near future. I'm just not giving nearly as much weight as you seem ready to do to the idea that climate will naturally be a driving factor in that increased challenge. Someone in a different thread or forum made an interesting comment. Going to the B1G could hurt the west coast schools due the travel involved. Do potential recruits want to have to continually travel to the east coast to play Rutgers, Maryland, and PSU? Or, would they rather stay close at UCSB or LBSU where friends and family would have better opportunities to see them play. Interesting take. Didn’t seem to bother Mullen. I see where you’re coming from, but i really don’t think these athletes care. Gives them a chance to play in the best conference in the country with an opportunity to travel across the country
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 13, 2023 22:03:37 GMT -5
You suggested recruits may choose west coast schools based on weather: "Reuse’s column today noted that recruiting just got a lot harder with the west coast teams coming in - which I’ve been saying since that happened, if you can play in the best volleyball conference in the country why not do it in warmer weather?" I've attempted to contradict that notion by suggesting that weather is wildly over-considered when predicting which schools recruits will choose. You've gone on record in writing that weather will be a consideration. In fact, with the above quote I've included from your previous post, I get the strong impression that you think it's a foregone conclusion that cooler climates will get the raw end of the deal now that west coast schools are joining the B1G. I concede recruiting may be more challenging for current B1G schools in the near future. I'm just not giving nearly as much weight as you seem ready to do to the idea that climate will naturally be a driving factor in that increased challenge. Someone in a different thread or forum made an interesting comment. Going to the B1G could hurt the west coast schools due the travel involved. Do potential recruits want to have to continually travel to the east coast to play Rutgers, Maryland, and PSU? Or, would they rather stay close at UCSB or LBSU where friends and family would have better opportunities to see them play. Interesting take. With the extra $, they’ll charter I assume. IMHO the time to get to the airport, check bags, go through security, board, deplane, get bags, get to the hotel, stays the same. So instead of something like a 4-5 hour end to end, it’s a 6-7 hour end to end. More time to sleep or do homework on the plane.
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Post by comet on Nov 13, 2023 22:04:05 GMT -5
Someone in a different thread or forum made an interesting comment. Going to the B1G could hurt the west coast schools due the travel involved. Do potential recruits want to have to continually travel to the east coast to play Rutgers, Maryland, and PSU? Or, would they rather stay close at UCSB or LBSU where friends and family would have better opportunities to see them play. Interesting take. Didn’t seem to bother Mullen. I see where you’re coming from, but i really don’t think these athletes care. Gives them a chance to play in the best conference in the country with an opportunity to travel across the country In theory it sounds fun to travel across country, but I think it will end up being very grueling for these student athletes and may lose its appeal in due time.
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