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Post by babybacksets on Jun 27, 2021 22:22:56 GMT -5
How often will she utilize that jump as libero? Also, what is history of libero, serve receive, and floor defense development at Minnesota? Box Jumps are more of a display of hip mobility than anything else which i translates well for floor defenders. Usually pretty obvious when defenders have poor hip mobility.
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Post by dodger on Jun 27, 2021 22:29:51 GMT -5
How often will she utilize that jump as libero? Also, what is history of libero, serve receive, and floor defense development at Minnesota? Box Jumps are more of a display of hip mobility than anything else which i translates well for floor defenders. Usually pretty obvious when defenders have poor hip mobility. Lmao
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 12:51:39 GMT -5
How often will she utilize that jump as libero? Also, what is history of libero, serve receive, and floor defense development at Minnesota? I am sure athleticism is not a drawback for a libero. Gentil, Peniata, Granquist, Tan, Rosado, McGraw ain't a bad libero lineage. And I think Minnesota should get some credit for Barnes too.
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Post by volleynerdmw on Jun 28, 2021 15:48:44 GMT -5
I'm just glad she's not 4 feet tall. So 5'3 is good enough?
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 28, 2021 20:12:36 GMT -5
Box Jumps are more of a display of hip mobility than anything else which i translates well for floor defenders. Usually pretty obvious when defenders have poor hip mobility. Lmao Lol just saying, as much as we all love a tall dominant player, it’s annoying to see balls drop on athlete’s who simply don’t have the hip mobility to get underneath a ball quickly. MOBILE tall, 6 rotation hitters are not super common. Off the top of my head a good one i can think of is Logan Eggelston
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Post by JT on Jun 28, 2021 20:54:29 GMT -5
I'm just glad she's not 4 feet tall. So 5'3 is good enough? As long as she doesn't accidentally rotate to the front (assuming DS rather than L)... sure.
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Post by dodger on Jun 28, 2021 22:02:54 GMT -5
Lol just saying, as much as we all love a tall dominant player, it’s annoying to see balls drop on athlete’s who simply don’t have the hip mobility to get underneath a ball quickly. MOBILE tall, 6 rotation hitters are not super common. Off the top of my head a good one i can think of is Logan Eggelston Define “tall” , A ball drop: what kind of ball dropping in front of are you referring too? What is “hip mobility”? Exactly? I am trying to imagine your picture of this happening?
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 28, 2021 23:08:12 GMT -5
Lol just saying, as much as we all love a tall dominant player, it’s annoying to see balls drop on athlete’s who simply don’t have the hip mobility to get underneath a ball quickly. MOBILE tall, 6 rotation hitters are not super common. Off the top of my head a good one i can think of is Logan Eggelston Define “tall” , A ball drop: what kind of ball dropping in front of are you referring too? What is “hip mobility”? Exactly? I am trying to imagine your picture of this happening? Ok so my best way of explaining it would be an athlete’s ability to QUICKLY drop into a low, full range of motion squat/lunge to try and play a ball going to the floor vs standing up and watching it drop, keeping the hips high and dropping the upper body and reaching, or trying to play the ball with their foot. Lets say a ball tipped off the block and falling to the floor fast in front of the off blocker. Athletes like a Taylor Landfair are gonna see that ball falling and simply not possess the muscle memory to drop into that full range lunge and be able to push out and get underneath WITH control to pop it up. As compared to a shorter, more mobile player, like Alexis Hart makes that play with a little more ease. By “Tall” i would say upwards of 6’2-4+, and legitimately so, not the fudged numbers for the sake of impressing people looking at a roster. There are smaller players that also have poor hip mobility but typically it’s the taller ones that are able to get away with being so so defenders Now this is just speculation but some of this may just come from a prep career where there was never a real focus on being limber/ mobile because hey, “She’s 6’5” she’ll make up for it in a different way. All of these taller lankier female athletes are capable of it, its just not something that has ever needed to be a focus for them which i think is a shame because you’d probably see much more Egglestons, Rettkes, etc out there if that aspect of their athleticism was trained more consistently. Sorry, long winded explanation but that’s what I meant. No shade at any of these athletes because they are still great players and can get to the highest levels of success with poor mobility (Plummer). More geared at coaches that don’t teach their 6’5” girls to defend like their 5’6” ones.
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Post by mnsports255 on Jun 28, 2021 23:31:24 GMT -5
Define “tall” , A ball drop: what kind of ball dropping in front of are you referring too? What is “hip mobility”? Exactly? I am trying to imagine your picture of this happening? Ok so my best way of explaining it would be an athlete’s ability to QUICKLY drop into a low, full range of motion squat/lunge to try and play a ball going to the floor vs standing up and watching it drop, keeping the hips high and dropping the upper body and reaching, or trying to play the ball with their foot. Lets say a ball tipped off the block and falling to the floor fast in front of the off blocker. Athletes like a Taylor Landfair are gonna see that ball falling and simply not possess the muscle memory to drop into that full range lunge and be able to push out and get underneath WITH control to pop it up. As compared to a shorter, more mobile player, like Alexis Hart makes that play with a little more ease. By “Tall” i would say upwards of 6’2-4+, and legitimately so, not the fudged numbers for the sake of impressing people looking at a roster. There are smaller players that also have poor hip mobility but typically it’s the taller ones that are able to get away with being so so defenders Now this is just speculation but some of this may just come from a prep career where there was never a real focus on being limber/ mobile because hey, “She’s 6’5” she’ll make up for it in a different way. All of these taller lankier female athletes are capable of it, its just not something that has ever needed to be a focus for them which i think is a shame because you’d probably see much more Egglestons, Rettkes, etc out there if that aspect of their athleticism was trained more consistently. Sorry, long winded explanation but that’s what I meant. No shade at any of these athletes because they are still great players and can get to the highest levels of success with poor mobility (Plummer). More geared at coaches that don’t teach their 6’5” girls to defend like their 5’6” ones. No need to defend yourself this much. You’re right, hip mobility is highly advantageous for any back row player. It’s also a pretty self-explanatory concept. Any orthopedic, PT, or coach/athlete involved with sports or weight training should already know about hip mobility and the advantages it gives for performance and also injury prevention. A slightly more open split stance can help with taller passers in overcoming stiffer hips, but advantage still goes to lower COG and mobile hips/hamstrings/ankles, especially in a bang-bang moment.
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Post by coconutcandles on Jul 17, 2021 3:06:25 GMT -5
I may be reaching but do we think mandi morioka is decommitting from Minnesota? She deleted her commitment post, posted highlight videos, and if she had it in her bio it isn’t there anymore, plus obviously Laney just committed so I wouldn’t be surprised… sucks for her though if that is the case I hope she finds the perfect school for her!!
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Jul 17, 2021 6:16:23 GMT -5
I may be reaching but do we think mandi morioka is decommitting from Minnesota? She deleted her commitment post, posted highlight videos, and if she had it in her bio it isn’t there anymore, plus obviously Laney just committed so I wouldn’t be surprised… sucks for her though if that is the case I hope she finds the perfect school for her!! I haven't heard anything. Its a loss for us. We haven't had much depth at that position. I have to wonder though, if the COVID rule together with the possibility that either CC or Rachel could staying another year also factor into her thinking. Good libero/defensive specialists are being valued more and more every year. She probably would find several places to choose from if she wants to reopen her search.
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Post by courtwatchers on Jul 18, 2021 12:59:07 GMT -5
So we are now adding Mandi Morioka to the forever growing list of L/DS to depart ways with Minnesota for whatever reason? This is sad news, if true.
The only thing I want to add is.....should Minnesota continue to struggle OOS this upcoming season, I for one would like to see this topic re-addressed at the end of the season in more depth. I personally don't feel this program can afford to keep losing players in the L/DS position.
Reminder.....Wenaas, CC and Kilkelly returning and those who have departed in recent years are Barnes, Appiani, Rollins and now Morioka.
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Post by lovebugsm on Jul 18, 2021 14:50:13 GMT -5
So we are now adding Mandi Morioka to the forever growing list of L/DS to depart ways with Minnesota for whatever reason? This is sad news, if true. The only thing I want to add is.....should Minnesota continue to struggle OOS this upcoming season, I for one would like to see this topic re-addressed at the end of the season in more depth. I personally don't feel this program can afford to keep losing players in the L/DS position. Reminder.....Wenaas, CC and Kilkelly returning and those who have departed in recent years are Barnes, Appiani, Rollins and now Morioka. [/quote Minnesota just got a commitment from the top Libero in her class. There is more depth this year. With Gray and Glenn being able to help. You I wouldn’t consider morioka a departure, since she was never actually a gopher.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jul 18, 2021 17:34:53 GMT -5
So we are now adding Mandi Morioka to the forever growing list of L/DS to depart ways with Minnesota for whatever reason? This is sad news, if true. The only thing I want to add is.....should Minnesota continue to struggle OOS this upcoming season, I for one would like to see this topic re-addressed at the end of the season in more depth. I personally don't feel this program can afford to keep losing players in the L/DS position. Reminder.....Wenaas, CC and Kilkelly returning and those who have departed in recent years are Barnes, Appiani, Rollins and now Morioka. Not sure if Rollins belongs on your list but I get the point.
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Post by lovebugsm on Jul 22, 2021 19:07:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Swenson twins have been offered? Or if they are good enough to be?
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