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Post by vbprisoner on Nov 5, 2018 13:36:50 GMT -5
Wisconsin needs to start proving it on the court. Right now, they look a lot like 2017. Good on paper, but not top 10 on the court. Penn State may be the opposite. The voters who are Wisconsin fans had them ranked the lowest. Several folks still feel they are still a top 8 team.
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Post by vbcoltrane on Nov 5, 2018 13:40:58 GMT -5
I am tired of the B1G bias in the poll really Wisconsin loses twice at home. While Pitt wins two away games and they drop? Also one Nebraska win at home in 5 and they leapfrog Texas. C’mon guys the Big Ten is the best conference in Women’s College Volleyball but let’s at least give credit where it’s due to other schools. Surprised Kentucky got a big jump although they were just outside my top ten last week and I think they would have beaten Florida at home even with a healthy Thayer Hall but I had them at 10 in my rankings they have been trending up for awhile. I still don't understand VTers obsession with home/away - as if it legitimately shades the quality of every win or loss. There's a direct matchup no matter where it occurs. Isn't it enough just to say that WI lost twice and Pitt won twice. People had said MN rightfully should not do any better in the polls this week (overall votes, no. of first place votes, etc.) despite two wins because they won 3-2 vs. MSU at home. If they had the exact same performance in E. Lansing, why wouldn't the affect on ranking be exactly the same?
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Post by Cruz'n on Nov 5, 2018 13:43:13 GMT -5
At first I was confused which Southern Cal team was ranked; thankfully you put (USC) next to it, to make it clear. Thanks vbprisoner .
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Post by Cruz'n on Nov 5, 2018 13:53:53 GMT -5
Talk about disagreement towards the bottom! 41 teams received votes! So most likely, we voted for 18 different teams to fill the final 7 spots.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 5, 2018 14:10:17 GMT -5
I am tired of the B1G bias in the poll really Wisconsin loses twice at home. While Pitt wins two away games and they drop? Also one Nebraska win at home in 5 and they leapfrog Texas. C’mon guys the Big Ten is the best conference in Women’s College Volleyball but let’s at least give credit where it’s due to other schools. Pittsburgh was leapfrogged by teams who swept Top 25 opponents. What did Pittsburgh do that was more significant than USC or Kentucky? Wisconsin lost to two Top 15 opponents and dropped 4 spots (nearly 5) for it, when Pittsburgh lost to a barely Top 50 opponent (were they at the time?) they dropped 5 spots. Not too big a difference. And Nebraska beat a Top 10 opponent in Penn State while Texas beat a middling TCU. I don’t see what’s unfair about that flip.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 5, 2018 14:21:34 GMT -5
Tidbits from this week's poll: 1. Stanford picks up one more 1st place vote this week. 2. Illinois was ranked #4 on every voters ballot. 3. #8 Kentucky-492, #9 Wisconsin-491, #10 Creighton-490 are all separated by 1 point. 4. 23 different teams got at least 1 vote between #19 - #25 this week. # Conference teams ranked: B1G - 7 PAC - 6 SEC - 4 Big East - 2 Big 12 - 2 AAC - 1 ACC - 1 Big West - 1 WWC - 1What is this? The Wild West Conference??!
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Post by tomclen on Nov 5, 2018 14:24:11 GMT -5
How cool would it be to have a BYU/Kentucky/Pitt/Creighton final four?
Yeah, sure, it ain't gonna happen. But it would be a nice change of pace.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 14:28:16 GMT -5
How cool would it be to have a BYU/Kentucky/Pitt/Creighton final four? Yeah, sure, it ain't gonna happen. But it would be a nice change of pace. BYU's been there. You need another 4th. How about Oregon or Marquette or Cal Poly?
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Post by donut on Nov 5, 2018 14:31:29 GMT -5
How cool would it be to have a BYU/Kentucky/Pitt/Creighton final four? Yeah, sure, it ain't gonna happen. But it would be a nice change of pace. BYU's been there. You need another 4th. How about Oregon or Marquette or Cal Poly? Oregon has also been there? See: 2012?
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Post by Cruz'n on Nov 5, 2018 14:39:17 GMT -5
How cool would it be to have a BYU/Kentucky/Pitt/Creighton final four? Yeah, sure, it ain't gonna happen. But it would be a nice change of pace. How about Pitt, Creighton, Cal Poly, Central Florida? Or sub in Marquette, or perhaps Tennessee.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 5, 2018 14:41:37 GMT -5
How cool would it be to have a BYU/Kentucky/Pitt/Creighton final four? Yeah, sure, it ain't gonna happen. But it would be a nice change of pace. How about Pitt, Creighton, Cal Poly, Central Florida? Or sub in Marquette, or perhaps Tennessee. TN: 2005
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 14:43:04 GMT -5
They have? I even thought about that. I'm thinking about it now, too. I absolutely don't recall that.
Par for the course. Oh, right. With Bergsma. Vaguely recall.
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 5, 2018 14:47:12 GMT -5
How about Pitt, Creighton, Cal Poly, Central Florida? Or sub in Marquette, or perhaps Tennessee. TN: 2005 Too soon.
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 5, 2018 15:16:27 GMT -5
I am tired of the B1G bias in the poll really Wisconsin loses twice at home. While Pitt wins two away games and they drop? Also one Nebraska win at home in 5 and they leapfrog Texas. C’mon guys the Big Ten is the best conference in Women’s College Volleyball but let’s at least give credit where it’s due to other schools. Surprised Kentucky got a big jump although they were just outside my top ten last week and I think they would have beaten Florida at home even with a healthy Thayer Hall but I had them at 10 in my rankings they have been trending up for awhile. For the record, as a B1G fan, I definitely did not rank Wisconsin or Nebraska that high. I recognize that the Badgers are just Rettke and Duello right now. I don't see them making a deep run until they can figure out how to make a banged up Loberg and Haggerty effective. I recognize the same about Nebraska -- it's the Foecke/Maloney/Stivrins show right now. I ranked Texas ahead of both of them. In fact, I ranked Wisconsin at 9, just in front of Pitt.
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Post by huskergeek on Nov 5, 2018 15:18:33 GMT -5
I am tired of the B1G bias in the poll really Wisconsin loses twice at home. While Pitt wins two away games and they drop? Also one Nebraska win at home in 5 and they leapfrog Texas. C’mon guys the Big Ten is the best conference in Women’s College Volleyball but let’s at least give credit where it’s due to other schools. Surprised Kentucky got a big jump although they were just outside my top ten last week and I think they would have beaten Florida at home even with a healthy Thayer Hall but I had them at 10 in my rankings they have been trending up for awhile. Pitt is extremely difficult for me to place. A couple of weeks ago, when they were undefeated it was easy. Plug them in at four and move on. Now, it's really difficult because their schedule is so different from everyone around them. I don't really know how to rank them in an unbiased way. I'm a firm believer in you can only play who they put in front of you, but Pitt's best wins are #16 Cal Poly at home, #26 Washington at home, #29 Louisville at home, RV Florida St. at home, and RV Pepperdine at home. Their best road win is . . . 16-11 Georgia Tech? Of the eight road games they've played, none are against ranked teams and they lost to Duke who is a borderline Top 5 ACC team and who's most notable accomplishment in this context is stealing a set from BYU. I'm sorry to Pitt fans, but I honestly have no idea how to properly reward that team for only having one loss while also looking at schedules that have 6-10 top 20 matches with wins against Top-10 teams. This week, I had them at #11 which is where I had them last week. I can't justify moving them higher. And while I feel for fans of less powerful conferences(Three words: Big Ten Baseball), at a certain point you either need to be undefeated or schedule harder out of conference to get the benefit of the doubt on being a Top-10 team.
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