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Post by Volley Passionista on Oct 22, 2019 13:30:21 GMT -5
On a new transfer threat for 2020 :
Just bear in mind with the new transfer rule, players that enter the transfer portal prior to start of Spring term 2020 / January 2020, are subject to cancellation of their scholarship at the end of academic fall term . During winter break they can also get their aid immediately cancelled so most SA on scholarship will wait until January first day of school to give notice to transfer
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Post by n00b on Oct 22, 2019 18:01:29 GMT -5
On a new transfer threat for 2020 : Just bear in mind with the new transfer rule, players that enter the transfer portal prior to start of Spring term 2020 / January 2020, are subject to cancellation of their scholarship at the end of academic fall term . During winter break they can also get their aid immediately cancelled so most SA on scholarship will wait until January first day of school to give notice to transfer Unless they want to start practicing with their new team in the spring. Quitting in January and not being able to train all spring doesn't exactly make you a desirable transfer. |
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Post by Volley Passionista on Oct 22, 2019 19:21:06 GMT -5
On a new transfer threat for 2020 : Just bear in mind with the new transfer rule, players that enter the transfer portal prior to start of Spring term 2020 / January 2020, are subject to cancellation of their scholarship at the end of academic fall term . During winter break they can also get their aid immediately cancelled so most SA on scholarship will wait until January first day of school to give notice to transfer Unless they want to start practicing with their new team in the spring. Quitting in January and not being able to train all spring doesn't exactly make you a desirable transfer. I get that but unless you already have a school to go to which is illegal to contact unless you are in the portal... it would be foolish to do so, chucking yourself into the portal end of November not knowing where you will be going is very risky /detrimental your academic progress ... even if a school picks you up fairly quickly you have to still complete admissions transfer requirements not to mention the fact that classes have to be enrolled in . What would you suggest ? Entering the portal, withdrawing from school until a new school picks you up? I am honestly curious as players that I know in college might have to make this decision and there is great insecurity on how to best proceed |
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 26, 2019 16:48:15 GMT -5
ugh!! Was really hoping [Quade] she'd go pro!! I think she'd do well internationally with the pace of the game She can go pro the following year. Playing beach first might help her shore up her ball-handling skills ahead of moving abroad. Exactly. Nothing like Beach to highlight the all around skillset required of a six rotation OH on the international scene on a top club. Smart move on her part. 3 rotation OH make a lot less money, and barely get a glance from Team USA. |
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Post by staticb on Oct 28, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -5
It worked for Kim Hill!
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Post by vtnewb on Nov 5, 2019 1:50:52 GMT -5
On a new transfer threat for 2020 : Just bear in mind with the new transfer rule, players that enter the transfer portal prior to start of Spring term 2020 / January 2020, are subject to cancellation of their scholarship at the end of academic fall term . During winter break they can also get their aid immediately cancelled so most SA on scholarship will wait until January first day of school to give notice to transfer In the end is there really a difference with the “new” transfer rules? If meant to protect student athlete then what changed? |
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Post by n00b on Nov 5, 2019 10:13:57 GMT -5
On a new transfer threat for 2020 : Just bear in mind with the new transfer rule, players that enter the transfer portal prior to start of Spring term 2020 / January 2020, are subject to cancellation of their scholarship at the end of academic fall term . During winter break they can also get their aid immediately cancelled so most SA on scholarship will wait until January first day of school to give notice to transfer In the end is there really a difference with the “new” transfer rules? If meant to protect student athlete then what changed? Protect student athletes from what? The process is simplified, more black and white, and less is done through back channels. All positives. |
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Post by Volley Passionista on Nov 5, 2019 15:21:02 GMT -5
In the end is there really a difference with the “new” transfer rules? If meant to protect student athlete then what changed? Protect student athletes from what? The process is simplified, more black and white, and less is done through back channels. All positives. It gives SA more control and makes the process more transparent. SA control if they want to transfer by giving notice rather than asking coaches permission to contact , or coaches holding them back from playing somewhere else and receiving financial aid. On the other side it gives coaches the liberty to cancel their scholarship at the end of the academic term not school year so they might bring in another player early. But entering the portal in November being on scholarship is very risky now because you either withdraw from school and hope another school picks you up early for Spring training or you continue on your own dime at your old school and won't participate in any team training. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 5, 2019 15:36:55 GMT -5
Protect student athletes from what? The process is simplified, more black and white, and less is done through back channels. All positives. It gives SA more control and makes the process more transparent. SA control if they want to transfer by giving notice rather than asking coaches permission to contact , or coaches holding them back from playing somewhere else and receiving financial aid. On the other side it gives coaches the liberty to cancel their scholarship at the end of the academic term not school year so they might bring in another player early. But entering the portal in November being on scholarship is very risky now because you either withdraw from school and hope another school picks you up early for Spring training or you continue on your own dime at your old school and won't participate in any team training. It does eliminate Permission to Contact. However, it does not affect the ability of the coach to force the athlete to sit a year before playing. Keep in mind that that situation is EXCEEDINGLY rare. Briana Holman from LSU to Nebraska is the only one I know of. But the new transfer rule wouldn't have allowed Holman to play immediately without LSU's permission either. |
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Post by Volley Passionista on Nov 5, 2019 19:14:12 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of sitting out at the first transfer as a volleyball player except intra conference transfer rules , general transfer eligibility like academics..
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Post by n00b on Nov 5, 2019 20:20:04 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of sitting out at the first transfer as a volleyball player except intra conference transfer rules , general transfer eligibility like academics.. The general rule is that all transfers must sit out a year. All sports except basketball and football allow for a 1-time exception where the transfer can be eligible immediately IF the previous school signs off on it. Again, this almost never happens but schools do have the ability to make the transfer sit (she would then have the ability to appeal). |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 7, 2019 1:09:16 GMT -5
It does eliminate Permission to Contact. However, it does not affect the ability of the coach to force the athlete to sit a year before playing. Keep in mind that that situation is EXCEEDINGLY rare. Briana Holman from LSU to Nebraska is the only one I know of. But the new transfer rule wouldn't have allowed Holman to play immediately without LSU's permission either. Airial Salvo from Utah (MWC) to Washington (Pac-10). Had to sit out the 2007 season. |
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Post by Volley Passionista on Nov 11, 2019 10:15:35 GMT -5
It does eliminate Permission to Contact. However, it does not affect the ability of the coach to force the athlete to sit a year before playing. Keep in mind that that situation is EXCEEDINGLY rare. Briana Holman from LSU to Nebraska is the only one I know of. But the new transfer rule wouldn't have allowed Holman to play immediately without LSU's permission either. Airial Salvo from Utah (MWC) to Washington (Pac-10). Had to sit out the 2007 season. That was under the old transfer rules where you needed a release. Now you can transfer and use the one time transfer exception rule , however if you are a Freshman that signed an NLI and want to transfer lets say for Spring I do believe you need a complete and full release of the NLI . I am just curious , if the program doesn't release you from the NLI but cancels you financial aid how is that possible because the NLI was tied to the financial aid agreement. I would think if they cancel your aid they simultaneously would have to grant you a release of the NLI then ? Interesting questions I am trying to get answered |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 11, 2019 12:05:50 GMT -5
Airial Salvo from Utah (MWC) to Washington (Pac-10). Had to sit out the 2007 season. That was under the old transfer rules where you needed a release. Now you can transfer and use the one time transfer exception rule... Part of the one-time transfer exception is the requirement that you "receive a transfer-release agreement from your previous four-year school." That has not been changed. Coaches generally don't like denying a transfer-release, because, in that it is applied to the athlete, it almost always becomes public and gives the coach a "black eye" in recruiting. A refusal to grant permission to contact almost never became public because it was applied to coaches/schools - it was the real power in the hands of the coaches, in that it gave them the ability to control where an athlete could or could not transfer and play immediately. Some football coaches, for instance, were refusing all permissions to contact, unless they were trying to push someone out. The NLI is a separate kettle of fish: "The letter is a legally-binding contract. It explains what athletics financial aid the school agrees to provide the student-athlete for one full academic year, only if the student is admitted to the school and is eligible for financial aid under NCAA rules. If you sign a National Letter of Intent, you agree to attend that school for one academic year and other schools that are part of the National Letter of Intent program can no longer recruit you." www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/current/transfer-termsSee the Kylin Munoz case, also at Washington, in which she signed an NLI to attend BYU, but changed her mind and enrolled at UW instead, where she was required to sit out the year and lose a year of eligibility. Later BYU released her from her NLI, allowing her to take a redshirt for sitting out her freshman year and regain her fourth (senior) year of eligibility - it helped, of course, that the BYU and UW coaches were friends and both were members of GM 2. |
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Post by omahalaw on Nov 15, 2019 13:35:25 GMT -5
I seem to remember (perhaps incorrectly) that when Jessica Yanz (a setter) transferred from Penn State to Nebraska that Russ Rose refused to allow her to play immediately and that she had to sit out the 2008 (?) season
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