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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 29, 2018 16:21:37 GMT -5
I haven't seen a good movie adaptation of any novel. The Harry Potter movies were remarkably good adaptations of the novels, but that's probably because Rowling had so much creative control. The Princess Bride was a great adaptation of the novel. Key word here is "adaptation".
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 29, 2018 16:59:55 GMT -5
I haven't seen a good movie adaptation of any novel. The Harry Potter movies were remarkably good adaptations of the novels, but that's probably because Rowling had so much creative control. The Princess Bride was a great adaptation of the novel. Key word here is "adaptation". I haven't read any of the Harry Potter books. Your post however reminds me of The Hobbit because you and a few others talked about it here. The sections in the book that I hated the most were the action scenes. I don't know if it's Tolkien's bad writing but those sections were terrible. Come to think of it, I tend to NOT like action scenes in novels although it has been a while since I last read an "action" novel. The one thing that movies do a better job than novels is capture action and suspense because movies are a visual medium. (Of course, there are some great novels that do suspense very well.)
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 29, 2018 17:41:07 GMT -5
The Harry Potter movies were remarkably good adaptations of the novels, but that's probably because Rowling had so much creative control. The Princess Bride was a great adaptation of the novel. Key word here is "adaptation". I haven't read any of the Harry Potter books. Your post however reminds me of The Hobbit because you and a few others talked about it here. The sections in the book that I hated the most were the action scenes. I don't know if it's Tolkien's bad writing but those sections were terrible. Come to think of it, I tend to NOT like action scenes in novels although it has been a while since I last read an "action" novel. The one thing that movies do a better job than novels is capture action and suspense because movies are a visual medium. (Of course, there are some great novels that do suspense very well.) Just last night I was reading a novel by Steven Gould (the SF writer, not Stephen J. Gould the late biologist). Anyway, Gould is apparently a practitioner of aikido because he has included it in several of his novels. In this one it's a main focus of the book, and the book has numerous fight scenes in which each and every throw or joint lock is described. It's not as tedious to read as you might think, though. The fight scenes in the book are kind of exciting, like fight scenes in a martial arts movie. But speaking of things that would be very difficult to film, in this book the main character is a 17-yr-old guy who has had his mind imprinted with a second personality -- a 60-ish-yr-old woman who has three or four PhDs and also is a high level master of aikido. And is quite sarcastic. So he has a *lot* of internalized dialog between his own personality and this implanted one. Hard to film that!
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Post by ironhammer on Nov 29, 2018 21:45:49 GMT -5
I don't really need a movie adaptation of a video game. I think the video games are fine by themselves. I also don't really need a movie adaptation of novels. In fact, it's rare for me to like movie adaptations. You can't really capture fully what's in a novel, especially inner thoughts and feelings and certain details that give more flesh and life to the story. The first time I really understood this was when I was young. I had just read Mario Puzo's The Godfather when I was 9 or 10 -- which is waaaaay too young to be reading this kind of novel, but I was far advanced for my age. While my peers were reading 4th grade level readers, I was reading mass paperbacks intended for adults. It was a ground-breaking book for me because it opened my eyes to the world. Anyway, the book goes into great detail about Sonny Corleone's big...umm...body part. I mean, it was a big deal in the book. In the movie, there was only one brief reference. It was in the opening wedding reception when Sonny's wife makes some sort of descriptive gesture about it. That's all. So, yes, the movie is a classic and a masterpiece. I love the movie myself but that's only because I treated it separately from the novel. They're both VERY different. As an adaptation, it's not that good. But I haven't seen a good movie adaptation of any novel. It's not a question of "need", I don't think any gamer particularly asked for a Doom movie or a Wing Commander movie. It's more a question of exploitation by Hollywood in search of the next product to make a quick buck. But as for novel-based movies, I don't agree. Movie adaptation can never tell exactly the same story as the novel, that does not make it automatically bad. This is simply the nature of the different mediums that movies and novels inhabit. Godfather the movie after all is considered an all-time classic. Just because it does not cover all the details in the novel does not make it bad. It's more about whether the movie captures the spirit of the novel, and that can be elusive and difficult to accomplish, but if the director can do so, then the movie adaptation can be good. I mean, the novel Life of Pi was considered practically impossible to adapt as a movie, but it was done, and done quite well to beome an Oscar-winning film. So novel adaptations have a much better track record than video game movies.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Nov 30, 2018 1:49:06 GMT -5
I never read novel The Notebook, and I hope it was just as good as (if not better) than the movie. The ending, though, was a near tear jerker for me when it was revealed that the old Allie was suffering from Alzheimers and that Calhoun stayed with her at the home just to be by her side, not wanting to leave her alone. And when they both passed away in each other's arms asleep, that even got a sigh out of me.
Lord of the Rings was a good adaptation of the novels, as was The Hobbit. Thought Jackson did stick to the novel as best as he could with LOTR, can't remember about The Hobbit though but I liked it just as well. Wonder if Jackson will want to consider making the onscreen adaptation of The Silmarillion.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Dec 4, 2018 18:32:35 GMT -5
You can't really blame the suckage of the Super Mario Bros movie on the game.
The movie had absolutely nothing to do with the game, other than some of the characters having the same names.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 4, 2018 23:14:35 GMT -5
You can't really blame the suckage of the Super Mario Bros movie on the game. The movie had absolutely nothing to do with the game, other than some of the characters having the same names. You can almost say that for the Resident Evil movies as well, they didn't have a strong connection with the actual games (although some later movie entries did feature characters from the game). But for a film medium (in this case a TV series) that does have a strong connection with the game and more importantly, is actually worth watching with good reviews, it is Castlevania from Netflix: The series is largedly based off of Castle III and Castlevania: Curse of Darkness. Amazingly, it has a 90% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes, that is probably the highest rating for any video game-based TV series or movie: www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/castlevania
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Post by mln59 on Dec 5, 2018 13:22:01 GMT -5
resident evil movies are not turkeys.
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Post by mln59 on Dec 5, 2018 13:24:50 GMT -5
The Harry Potter movies were remarkably good adaptations of the novels, but that's probably because Rowling had so much creative control. The Princess Bride was a great adaptation of the novel. Key word here is "adaptation". I haven't read any of the Harry Potter books. Your post however reminds me of The Hobbit because you and a few others talked about it here. The sections in the book that I hated the most were the action scenes. I don't know if it's Tolkien's bad writing but those sections were terrible. Come to think of it, I tend to NOT like action scenes in novels although it has been a while since I last read an "action" novel. The one thing that movies do a better job than novels is capture action and suspense because movies are a visual medium. (Of course, there are some great novels that do suspense very well.) please read the harry potter books
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 5, 2018 17:01:08 GMT -5
resident evil movies are not turkeys. That's a matter of personal opinion. Many consider them to be awful movies.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 5, 2018 17:01:44 GMT -5
I haven't read any of the Harry Potter books. Your post however reminds me of The Hobbit because you and a few others talked about it here. The sections in the book that I hated the most were the action scenes. I don't know if it's Tolkien's bad writing but those sections were terrible. Come to think of it, I tend to NOT like action scenes in novels although it has been a while since I last read an "action" novel. The one thing that movies do a better job than novels is capture action and suspense because movies are a visual medium. (Of course, there are some great novels that do suspense very well.) please read the harry potter books Why should he?
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Post by mln59 on Dec 5, 2018 17:02:26 GMT -5
please read the harry potter books Why should he? they're awesome books. you should read them too.
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Post by mln59 on Dec 5, 2018 17:02:44 GMT -5
resident evil movies are not turkeys. That's a matter of personal opinion. Many consider them to be awful movies. and they would be wrong
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 5, 2018 17:03:15 GMT -5
they're awesome books. you should read them too. But what makes you think I haven't read them?
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 5, 2018 17:04:43 GMT -5
That's a matter of personal opinion. Many consider them to be awful movies. and they would be wrong I've watched the Resident movies. Not all of them are necessarily as bad as the critics say, but neither would I say they are good.
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