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Post by secgator4 on Dec 15, 2018 23:28:07 GMT -5
I'm high on King over Dooley. King's a Top 10 Senior Ace and spent 2 years learning from Alhassan. Her experience as a RS Jr. and her offensive ability compared to Dooley will win her the spot. I agree that she's probably the better overall option but I don't think she'll start. Wise and the staff showed this past season that they preferred Dooley because of her blocking even though she didn't give much on offense (then again, they never really set her when she was in). Couple that with the fact that King was always the 4th middle off the bench makes me think that she'll be on the bench again until Kramer graduates. She was middle #3 her freshman year, redshirted last year and yes this year I think Dooley was in over her just due to blocking and having a starker height difference between her and Kellum. Kramer has become more mobile but Dooley just isnt at all as of today. I'd rather have a more mobile middle with better offensive upside. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 15, 2018 23:35:18 GMT -5
I agree that she's probably the better overall option but I don't think she'll start. Wise and the staff showed this past season that they preferred Dooley because of her blocking even though she didn't give much on offense (then again, they never really set her when she was in). Couple that with the fact that King was always the 4th middle off the bench makes me think that she'll be on the bench again until Kramer graduates. She was middle #3 her freshman year, redshirted last year and yes this year I think Dooley was in over her just due to blocking and having a starker height difference between her and Kellum. Kramer has become more mobile but Dooley just isnt at all as of today. I'd rather have a more mobile middle with better offensive upside. Once again, I agree. But...that probably ain't happening. Lol. |
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 16, 2018 0:04:32 GMT -5
I'm about the 5-1 next year. Better stability and allows Monserez to develop a growing connection with the treasure of hitters she has available to her for the next 2-3 years.
Carlton should only set if Monserez digs a ball. That would mean Carlton would likely only set Hammons in the front or Hall out of the back on those rare occasions, but that's better than the libero trying to swing it across the court from a back right dig.
2019 5-1
L: Cerame, So., 5'8
S: Monserez, So., 6'0
RS: Carlton, R-Jr., 6'7
OH: Hall (6 rotations), So., 6'3
OH: Hammons (6 rotations), Jr., 6'1
MB: Kramer, Sr., 6'8
MB: King, R-Jr., 6'3
DS: Gregory, Sr., 5'6
DS: Fischer, So., 5'7
Redshirt Season: Warner, So., 6'2
RS Backup: Soko, R-Jr., 6'4
MB Backup: Dooley, So., 6'6
OH Backup: Greer, Sr., 6'3
2020 6-2 (or potentially 5-2)
L: Cerame, Jr., 5'8
S: Monserez, Jr., 6'0
S: Hendrickson, Fr., 6'2
RS: Carlton, R-Sr., 6'7
RS: Ceasar, R-Jr., 6'1
OH: Hall, Jr., 6'3 (6 rotations)
OH: Hammons, Sr., 6'1 (6 rotations)
MB: King, R-Sr., 6'3
MB: Dooley, Jr., 6'6
DS: Fischer, Jr., 5'7
Redshirt Season: Sofia Victoria, Fr., 6'1
MB Backup: Nnedi Okammor, Fr., 6'4
RS Backup: Warner, R-So., 6'2
OH Backup: Soko, R-Sr., 6'4
2021 6-2 (or potentially 5-2)
L: Cerame, Sr., 5'8
S: Monserez, Sr., 6'0
S: Hendrickson, So., 6'2
RS: Ceasar, R-Sr., 6'1 (6 rotations)
RS: Warner, R-Jr., 6'2
OH: Hall, Sr., 6'3 (6 rotations)
OH: Victoria, R-Fr., 6'1
MB: Okammor, So., 6'4
MB: Dooley, Sr., 6'6
DS: Fischer, Sr., 5'7
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 16, 2018 0:25:29 GMT -5
She was middle #3 her freshman year, redshirted last year and yes this year I think Dooley was in over her just due to blocking and having a starker height difference between her and Kellum. Kramer has become more mobile but Dooley just isnt at all as of today. I'd rather have a more mobile middle with better offensive upside. Once again, I agree. But...that probably ain't happening. Lol. *shrugs* my opinion doesn't matter anyway. Just what I would do lol. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2018 0:49:44 GMT -5
My opinion on what the lineup should be is rather...unpopular, so I'll hold off on posting it.
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Post by volleyca on Dec 16, 2018 0:51:44 GMT -5
My opinion on what the should be is rather...unpopular, so I'll hold off on posting it. Oh pls sound off |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2018 1:04:41 GMT -5
My opinion on what the should be is rather...unpopular, so I'll hold off on posting it. Oh pls sound off ....alright. I'm just saying, it's really not gonna make sense to some people, but I'm willing to explain the reason for having each player at each position. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2018 1:27:54 GMT -5
OH-Paige Hammons MB- Darrielle King OPP- Haley Warner
(L- Riley Fischer) (DS- Paula Cerame)
S- Marlie Monserez MB- Rachael Kramer OH- Thayer Hall
(DS- Allie Gregory)
Keep Paige as a six-rotation outside. She's improved in every single area this year and there's no reason to think she won't continue to trend upward. I would not use Ceasar for her in the front row for a few reasons. 1) T'ara currently isn't a strong blocker. 2) Florida likes to pull their front row OH into serve receive and that is NOT her strong point. 3) Teams like to pick on Hammons in serve receive and I trust her there more than some of our defensive specialist, even though she struggles sometimes. 4) T'ara to this point has not shown the array of swings that Paige has. No one on the team can consistenly hit down the line like her and you need that from your outsides.
I'd keep Thayer Hall as the other outside with a minor tweak. She'd play 5 rotations instead of 6. Have Gregory come in to serve and play in right back until the next rotation. From what I've seen, Thayer passed better in middle and left back. Allie has been consistent in serve receive so she could definitely help in that spot. I'd still have Hall come back in so we have a back row attack though.
Kramer? Yep.
Darrielle King needs an elongated chance to make an impact. She's a good distance ahead of Dooley in all areas except for maybe the strength and height of her block. Her footwork would close off the seams that Dooley could leave open and she certainly has the offense both in front and behind the setter.
Haley Warner is capable of Alex Holston type production. To be clear, I have no problem with Holly. I'm just going off what I've seen and to me, Haley is the best all-around opposite on the roster. She seems to be a better OOS option and in her short time on the court, she showed that she's very capable of varying her swings. It was abundantly obvious that Carlton's most comforable swing was angle and her unlikeliness to go down the line or deep into the back court made it easier for teams to block or dig her, especially on imperfect sets. If Haley is struggling offensive, I'd bring in Carlton. If she's struggling defensively, I'd bring in Sokolowski.
Losing Huskey to transfer hurt Florida for more than 2018. The best chance for the Gators next year will be to run a 5-1. Obviously continue to work on Carlton behind the scenes and in practice but Marlie needs to have the reins. It would also be best if we picked up a setter in the offseason but that transfer would have to walk-on unless they pull someone's scholarship. An in-state and possible lower division transfer would be the most realistic, outside of a current player who is on a scholarship transferring out.
While Gregory did a solid job at libero, I'd rather see what Fischer looks like there. Though Riley's not the strongest in serve receive, to me, she's the best at digging heat in transition AND getting to balls that are outside her immediate vicinity. Cerame does a solid job tracking down balls that are outside her bodyline but it's the control of those touches that isn't the strongest. Gregory's mechanics during serve receive kind of irks me (especially that off balance, one leg pass she does so often) and she gets beat far too often on sharp angle swings. If there's any position that I think we need to experiment more, it's here.
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 16, 2018 9:25:14 GMT -5
I'm not mad about it. Still think Carlton has a stronger upside over Warner, at least next year.
I think it'll be interesting how Ceasar gets used next year. It's almost better if she does have to sit out a year.
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Post by curiousvolleyballdad on Dec 16, 2018 11:33:17 GMT -5
With all of the above future lineup predictions I still think that Mary had an opportunity to utilize her freshmen this season more than she did. The final results would not have been much different in and out of conference if she would of invested time into those freshmen.
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Post by secsportsfan on Dec 16, 2018 12:21:04 GMT -5
OH-Paige Hammons MB- Darrielle King OPP- Haley Warner (L- Riley Fischer) ( DS- Paula Cerame)S- Marlie Monserez MB- Rachael Kramer OH- Thayer Hall (DS- Allie Gregory)Keep Paige as a six-rotation outside. She's improved in every single area this year and there's no reason to think she won't continue to trend upward. I would not use Ceasar for her in the front row for a few reasons. 1) T'ara currently isn't a strong blocker. 2) Florida likes to pull their front row OH into serve receive and that is NOT her strong point. 3) Teams like to pick on Hammons in serve receive and I trust her there more than some of our defensive specialist, even though she struggles sometimes. 4) T'ara to this point has not shown the array of swings that Paige has. No one on the team can consistenly hit down the line like her and you need that from your outsides. I'd keep Thayer Hall as the other outside with a minor tweak. She'd play 5 rotations instead of 6. Have Gregory come in to serve and play in right back until the next rotation. From what I've seen, Thayer passed better in middle and left back. Allie has been consistent in serve receive so she could definitely help in that spot. I'd still have Hall come back in so we have a back row attack though. Kramer? Yep. Darrielle King needs an elongated chance to make an impact. She's a good distance ahead of Dooley in all areas except for maybe the strength and height of her block. Her footwork would close off the seams that Dooley could leave open and she certainly has the offense both in front and behind the setter. Haley Warner is capable of Alex Holston type production. To be clear, I have no problem with Holly. I'm just going off what I've seen and to me, Haley is the best all-around opposite on the roster. She seems to be a better OOS option and in her short time on the court, she showed that she's very capable of varying her swings. It was abundantly obvious that Carlton's most comforable swing was angle and her unlikeliness to go down the line or deep into the back court made it easier for teams to block or dig her, especially on imperfect sets. If Haley is struggling offensive, I'd bring in Carlton. If she's struggling defensively, I'd bring in Sokolowski. Losing Huskey to transfer hurt Florida for more than 2018. The best chance for the Gators next year will be to run a 5-1. Obviously continue to work on Carlton behind the scenes and in practice but Marlie needs to have the reins. It would also be best if we picked up a setter in the offseason but that transfer would have to walk-on unless they pull someone's scholarship. An in-state and possible lower division transfer would be the most realistic, outside of a current player who is on a scholarship transferring out. While Gregory did a solid job at libero, I'd rather see what Fischer looks like there. Though Riley's not the strongest in serve receive, to me, she's the best at digging heat in transition AND getting to balls that are outside her immediate vicinity. Cerame does a solid job tracking down balls that are outside her bodyline but it's the control of those touches that isn't the strongest. Gregory's mechanics during serve receive kind of irks me (especially that off balance, one leg pass she does so often) and she gets beat far too often on sharp angle swings. If there's any position that I think we need to experiment more, it's here. I actually like this lineup. I think Warner should’ve gotten more opportunities this year and I do believe she has a higher ceiling than Carlton. As far as libero, I agree Gregory gets beat on the sharp angle way too often. I’d like to see Cerame get a shot. I just don’t see Cesaer riding the bench. Will be interesting to see what the staff decides. |
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Post by floridaLOG on Dec 16, 2018 12:46:41 GMT -5
OH-Paige Hammons MB- Darrielle King OPP- Haley Warner (L- Riley Fischer) ( DS- Paula Cerame)S- Marlie Monserez MB- Rachael Kramer OH- Thayer Hall (DS- Allie Gregory)Keep Paige as a six-rotation outside. She's improved in every single area this year and there's no reason to think she won't continue to trend upward. I would not use Ceasar for her in the front row for a few reasons. 1) T'ara currently isn't a strong blocker. 2) Florida likes to pull their front row OH into serve receive and that is NOT her strong point. 3) Teams like to pick on Hammons in serve receive and I trust her there more than some of our defensive specialist, even though she struggles sometimes. 4) T'ara to this point has not shown the array of swings that Paige has. No one on the team can consistenly hit down the line like her and you need that from your outsides. I'd keep Thayer Hall as the other outside with a minor tweak. She'd play 5 rotations instead of 6. Have Gregory come in to serve and play in right back until the next rotation. From what I've seen, Thayer passed better in middle and left back. Allie has been consistent in serve receive so she could definitely help in that spot. I'd still have Hall come back in so we have a back row attack though. Kramer? Yep. Darrielle King needs an elongated chance to make an impact. She's a good distance ahead of Dooley in all areas except for maybe the strength and height of her block. Her footwork would close off the seams that Dooley could leave open and she certainly has the offense both in front and behind the setter. Haley Warner is capable of Alex Holston type production. To be clear, I have no problem with Holly. I'm just going off what I've seen and to me, Haley is the best all-around opposite on the roster. She seems to be a better OOS option and in her short time on the court, she showed that she's very capable of varying her swings. It was abundantly obvious that Carlton's most comforable swing was angle and her unlikeliness to go down the line or deep into the back court made it easier for teams to block or dig her, especially on imperfect sets. If Haley is struggling offensive, I'd bring in Carlton. If she's struggling defensively, I'd bring in Sokolowski. Losing Huskey to transfer hurt Florida for more than 2018. The best chance for the Gators next year will be to run a 5-1. Obviously continue to work on Carlton behind the scenes and in practice but Marlie needs to have the reins. It would also be best if we picked up a setter in the offseason but that transfer would have to walk-on unless they pull someone's scholarship. An in-state and possible lower division transfer would be the most realistic, outside of a current player who is on a scholarship transferring out. While Gregory did a solid job at libero, I'd rather see what Fischer looks like there. Though Riley's not the strongest in serve receive, to me, she's the best at digging heat in transition AND getting to balls that are outside her immediate vicinity. Cerame does a solid job tracking down balls that are outside her bodyline but it's the control of those touches that isn't the strongest. Gregory's mechanics during serve receive kind of irks me (especially that off balance, one leg pass she does so often) and she gets beat far too often on sharp angle swings. If there's any position that I think we need to experiment more, it's here. Actually don’t have a lot to disagree with here. Only thing is I want Paula Cerame to take that Libero Jersey. Florida is always worried about passing so I think that’s why Greg kept it this year. With some confidence I hope Paula can take it cuz man the girl in my opinion could be a gator great if she has more confidence. I want darielle in there because Florida hasn’t had a dominant slide attacker since maybe... benavia? And we we need that offensive speed for hall/Hammons/Caesar if we want to win next year. We don’t have Alhassan who could just hit over a block as if it was the net. Also would be intrigued to see a 5-1 where Carlton plays front (we have to remember that this was her first year where her sole focus was hitting) and Warner plays back row. I think warner can hit the ball a little harder which is vital for back row attacks. Also would be interested to see if Caesar gets thrown into the back row. They’ve got a LOT to figure between now and fall |
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Post by curiousvolleyballdad on Dec 16, 2018 13:00:55 GMT -5
I would like to see Mary more flexible with her lineups. I saw that with Tennessee. Their lineups varied based on their opponents. Mary has the talent to do that.
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2018 22:27:19 GMT -5
I also don't see anyone redshirting in 2019. That's a dangerous game to play, especially if we aren't running a 5-1.
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 16, 2018 22:49:46 GMT -5
I also don't see anyone redshirting in 2019. That's a dangerous game to play, especially if we aren't running a 5-1. A lot will depend on if Ceasar plays next year or not. If she does, there's 6 pin hitters on the roster plus Warner. There's a chance one of those 6 transfer however. |
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