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Post by Disc808 on Apr 25, 2019 6:00:37 GMT -5
Matautia's Instagram story is a very interesting detail, indeed. I doubt Matuatia knows anything, he butted with Wade because he did not like Wade’s rules and thought he should be a fulltime starter. Sounds like more than that to me
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Post by koavball on Apr 25, 2019 6:09:07 GMT -5
I doubt Matuatia knows anything, he butted with Wade because he did not like Wade’s rules and thought he should be a fulltime starter. Sounds like more than that to me Meh Mautautia’s been immature about his dislike for Wade on his social media since he left UH , no surprise he would take this news to fit his agenda.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 25, 2019 6:19:37 GMT -5
The story is a non issue. Has nothing to do with Volleyball, and was obviously released just to stir up trouble. Wade and the Warriors need to stay the course and ignore the noise. Definitely different than Touzinsky's case, which yielded results that prompted a "formal warning," whatever that is. But Wade is going to have to coach at LBSU, and these articles just resulted in the 49ers losing an assistant coach. I'll be really surprised if Wade makes it to next weekend. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t. This isn’t news. Safesport started its investigation last July but now it’s an issue that will have a negative impact on Wade and the University of Hawaii a week before the main event of the NCAA’s? The author of the article is a pot stirrer (read his bio). Hawaii should ignore the noise (that’s all it is). Almost a year-long investigation and no resolution? But hey, let’s make a non-story more important than the Championship. As for Mautatia- sounds like sour grapes. Must be hard to see your former team play much better without you on it.
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Post by Volleyfan024 on Apr 25, 2019 8:54:56 GMT -5
The story is a non issue. Has nothing to do with Volleyball, and was obviously released just to stir up trouble. Wade and the Warriors need to stay the course and ignore the noise. A non issue? All allegation should be investigated and taken seriously. I know the accused are innocent until proven guilty, but we have a responsibility as a society to look into these matters regardless of the timing and who is involved. With everything that has gone on in our country over the past few years, we are seeing countless horrifying abuses of power by men that have resulted in the violation of the basic human rights of women. If the coach of my team was alleged to have done something, I would want them investigated. It could be the day of the biggest game of the year and I would want to make sure that the necessary steps are taken. These women often wait until they are fully free of the influence of the person they are accusing (Luke Walton situation where she waited until he was no longer the coach of the team in her city) to come forward. These are sensitive situations. What is going on with this thread is a bit concerning. There are things in life much bigger than an NCAA men’s volleyball championship. I know I’ll get bashed for this post by Hawai’i fans, but we can’t just dismiss allegations because they have surfaced against your coach the week before the NCAA tournament. This could turn out to be absolutely nothing, but until then let’s not dismiss that someone felt compelled to come forward and report to the matter to the governing body of the sport. Youth sports are dealing with a serious crisis and needs some serious reform to prevent abuse of our young athletes. Let’s maybe show a little grace and respect to the people at SafeSport who are trying to do that
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Post by Volleyfan024 on Apr 25, 2019 8:58:21 GMT -5
And for the record, if Austin was celebrating this coming to light, he should be ashamed to be celebrating this matter.
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Post by coy on Apr 25, 2019 9:18:33 GMT -5
Hmm, why would the author be writing about this now? I can't figure it out either...
Oh wait, that's right. Men's volleyball is far from a big time sport. When are you going to start paying attention to it? That's right, when the NCAA Tournament is on its way to your city and you're looking for stories about the teams involved. You start to research the team, the program history, and...oh yeah, the coaches. So you start your research and low and behold you find out that the head coach of the #1 seed is under investigation for something involving a female he coached. But the author is just trying to stir the pot? And the investigation is just a witch hunt because it's taking time?
News flash: These investigations take time! Literally years sometimes. You don't get allegations of things and all of a sudden 2 days have the conclusion of criminal charges.
I have no idea if anything happened. But I'd be very, very careful when claiming an author is just trying to stir the pot, claiming the author had this information all along and was just holding onto it until he or she could get the most publicity out of it, claiming there's nothing to the story because the investigation is taking months to be concluded, etc.
This is how we end up with the Michigan States and the Penn States of the world. Let's hold back on calling these coaches victims until the investigation is complete, and then we can cry foul if there's nothing to them.
At least in my opinion.
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Post by vinnielopes on Apr 25, 2019 9:57:26 GMT -5
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 25, 2019 9:58:09 GMT -5
The story is a non issue. Has nothing to do with Volleyball, and was obviously released just to stir up trouble. Wade and the Warriors need to stay the course and ignore the noise. A non issue? All allegation should be investigated and taken seriously. I know the accused are innocent until proven guilty, but we have a responsibility as a society to look into these matters regardless of the timing and who is involved. With everything that has gone on in our country over the past few years, we are seeing countless horrifying abuses of power by men that have resulted in the violation of the basic human rights of women. If the coach of my team was alleged to have done something, I would want them investigated. It could be the day of the biggest game of the year and I would want to make sure that the necessary steps are taken. These women often wait until they are fully free of the influence of the person they are accusing (Luke Walton situation where she waited until he was no longer the coach of the team in her city) to come forward. These are sensitive situations. What is going on with this thread is a bit concerning. There are things in life much bigger than an NCAA men’s volleyball championship. I know I’ll get bashed for this post by Hawai’i fans, but we can’t just dismiss allegations because they have surfaced against your coach the week before the NCAA tournament. This could turn out to be absolutely nothing, but until then let’s not dismiss that someone felt compelled to come forward and report to the matter to the governing body of the sport. Youth sports are dealing with a serious crisis and needs some serious reform to prevent abuse of our young athletes. Let’s maybe show a little grace and respect to the people at SafeSport who are trying to do that As with anything, fans will have differing opinions on what is happening on issues. But their opinions don't affect any outcomes or change decisions. Hawaii fans as usual dont agree and will voice their varied opinions. So let them go. I obviously am more on the cautious side and have voiced it on here but I read many that are not like me. It's all good. This will get sorted out. VT commentary on an issue affects nothing other than people wanting to share their thoughts. Nothing more. Now how Charlie and UH admin handle this is a totally different issue. The truth will prevail.
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Post by grt808 on Apr 25, 2019 10:22:45 GMT -5
"possible misconduct involving a female player who played for him at the club and college level in February 2018" Charlie was not even coaching a women's college team in 2018...
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Post by samvb on Apr 25, 2019 10:27:29 GMT -5
"possible misconduct involving a female player who played for him at the club and college level in February 2018" Charlie was not even coaching a women's college team in 2018... The sentence in the article is not structured well. I had your thought too when I initially read it. It just means that USAV became aware of this in 2018. "USA Volleyball became aware of allegations regarding Wade and possible misconduct involving a female player who played for him at the club and college level in February 2018, according to SafeSport and USA Volleyball documents."
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Post by grt808 on Apr 25, 2019 10:28:11 GMT -5
"possible misconduct involving a female player who played for him at the club and college level in February 2018" Charlie was not even coaching a women's college team in 2018... The sentence in the article is not structured well. I had your thought too when I initially read it. It just means that USAV became aware of this in 2018. "USA Volleyball became aware of allegations regarding Wade and possible misconduct involving a female player who played for him at the club and college level in February 2018, according to SafeSport and USA Volleyball documents." Oh gotcha, thanks for clarifying
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 25, 2019 10:40:46 GMT -5
"NCAA events do not fall under SafeSport, USOC or USA Volleyball authority, so suspended coaches are not prohibited by rule from coaching on collegiate teams while under investigation by SafeSport." The 'Interim Suspension - pending investigation' for POSSIBLE misconduct, would by jurisdiction apply only to USOC and USA Volleyball programs/events. Not to NCAA Men's Volleyball. The article states the misconduct in question is related to something someone in the USA Volleyball community 'became aware of' that was possibly 'misconduct', and the article suggests it involves a female. The paper suggests the timeline for the possible misconduct is from at least ten years ago to over twenty years ago. SafeSport was involved over a year ago to look into it. In September of 2018 they decided to investigate and suspend from USA Volleyball affiliations pending investigation. So there has been an investigation by this non-profit organization going on for at least seven months. Questions: 1. Why is this public? It appears to be over something possibly to have occurred from over a decade ago, possibly two decades ago, possibly charged anonymously, and still under investigation. An investigation that is now taking over at least seven months. So, apparently there is no hot smoking trail of evidence here. 2. We can probably assume Wade is trying to defend himself. But clearly he can't comment on it, no lawyer worth his salt would let him. So again, why is this being made public? Wade can't comment or defend himself in public. 3. What falls under the "Misconduct" umbrella? Assume it's nothing criminal, o/w shouldn't it be a police investigation, not a non-profit cut-out for USA Volleyball?
4. If the 'charge' isn't over something criminal, then why the publicity? Your take is almost entirely wrong. 1. The long-running abuse that was uncovered within US Olympic Committee sanctioned federations (gymnastics, swimming) led to the creation of SafeSport as the clearinghouse to receive, investigate and make determinations, including sanctions, on all types of complaints. Transparency with regard to the existence of complaints and potential issues is one of the priorities that was highlighted when it was established. 2. Nothing prevents Wade from commenting or defending himself publicly. In most cases, it's wiser not to comment at all in circumstances like this, but I think it might make sense for Wade to issue a carefully crafted statement right now through/with an attorney or the Hawai'i Administration (to hold the wolves at bay until a finding is made). 3. Sexual misconduct with a minor, if that is the charge, is always criminal. Depending on the circumstances or outcome, the SafeSport investigation can lead to a criminal referral or take place in parallel to a police investigation. 4. Discovering that there are two coaches with active or recent investigations in the National Championship Tournament is going to generate publicity and controversy. You don't have to be a social media influencer to figure that out.
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Post by passserve on Apr 25, 2019 10:58:12 GMT -5
The biggest news radio station in the Los Angeles and Orange County area covered the Long Beach story last night, but the report did not mention Wade.
They usually repeat the same story over and over so the Long Beach assistant coach story is out in the public.
Disappointing that this is the most college volleyball news coverage all year.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 25, 2019 12:06:09 GMT -5
The story is a non issue. Has nothing to do with Volleyball, and was obviously released just to stir up trouble. Wade and the Warriors need to stay the course and ignore the noise. A non issue? All allegation should be investigated and taken seriously. I know the accused are innocent until proven guilty, but we have a responsibility as a society to look into these matters regardless of the timing and who is involved. With everything that has gone on in our country over the past few years, we are seeing countless horrifying abuses of power by men that have resulted in the violation of the basic human rights of women. If the coach of my team was alleged to have done something, I would want them investigated. It could be the day of the biggest game of the year and I would want to make sure that the necessary steps are taken. These women often wait until they are fully free of the influence of the person they are accusing (Luke Walton situation where she waited until he was no longer the coach of the team in her city) to come forward. These are sensitive situations. What is going on with this thread is a bit concerning. There are things in life much bigger than an NCAA men’s volleyball championship. I know I’ll get bashed for this post by Hawai’i fans, but we can’t just dismiss allegations because they have surfaced against your coach the week before the NCAA tournament. This could turn out to be absolutely nothing, but until then let’s not dismiss that someone felt compelled to come forward and report to the matter to the governing body of the sport. Youth sports are dealing with a serious crisis and needs some serious reform to prevent abuse of our young athletes. Let’s maybe show a little grace and respect to the people at SafeSport who are trying to do that The claim is being investigated. The investigation started last July. Wade has coached the team the entire season but now, because a pot stirring investigative reporter wants to feel important, it’s an issue? The reporter himself wrote that the allegations will cast a shadow over Hawaii and Long Beach in the NCAA’s. Yeah, that’s what he’s trying to do. This investigation has nothing to do with the Warrior Volleyball team or the Men’s NCAA Volleyball Championship. Safesport has not reached a resolution, it’s a non issue as far as the Tournament is concerned.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 25, 2019 12:12:04 GMT -5
Hmm, why would the author be writing about this now? I can't figure it out either...
Oh wait, that's right. Men's volleyball is far from a big time sport. When are you going to start paying attention to it? That's right, when the NCAA Tournament is on its way to your city and you're looking for stories about the teams involved. You start to research the team, the program history, and...oh yeah, the coaches. So you start your research and low and behold you find out that the head coach of the #1 seed is under investigation for something involving a female he coached. But the author is just trying to stir the pot? And the investigation is just a witch hunt because it's taking time?
News flash: These investigations take time! Literally years sometimes. You don't get allegations of things and all of a sudden 2 days have the conclusion of criminal charges.
I have no idea if anything happened. But I'd be very, very careful when claiming an author is just trying to stir the pot, claiming the author had this information all along and was just holding onto it until he or she could get the most publicity out of it, claiming there's nothing to the story because the investigation is taking months to be concluded, etc.
This is how we end up with the Michigan States and the Penn States of the world. Let's hold back on calling these coaches victims until the investigation is complete, and then we can cry foul if there's nothing to them.
At least in my opinion. I never said the investigation is a witch hunt. I said it has no relevance to the upcoming Championship tourney. And I stand by that comment and the one about the pot-stirring reporter.
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