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Post by volleyguy on May 28, 2019 20:42:26 GMT -5
Iowa is paying for their recruits? Nothing against those athletes, but you'd think in volleyball you could easily get top 5 classes without spending an exorbitant amount. This isn't football or basketball. By definition, only five schools out of 300+ Div I schools can get Top 5 classes each year, so I guess the answer is "No," you really can't get Top 5 classes that easily. Also, it's Iowa, which may be a harder sell. My team, Hawaii, has NEVER had a Top 5 class which is why we resort to Ti leaves and prayers to Pele, the god of volcano destruction. You'd be better off with Pele, the soccer legend.
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Post by recleague on May 28, 2019 20:46:43 GMT -5
The person who reported it was an athlete who wasn't getting paid but found out about it. Could have been a slippery slope of having to pay off athletes if it didn't get reported right away.
The AD said that a former student-athlete brought forth the allegations, the school first learned of the issue on May 1, and the AD is confident no other SA was involved or aware of the violation. Do you still stick by your story?
Yes. I said it could have turned into an even bigger problem, but the student-athlete turned them in.
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Post by shawty on May 28, 2019 20:49:44 GMT -5
Since we're all speculating here, does anyone think Aisha Skinner, who was set to transfer in from Hofstra but abruptly moved back to Germany figures into this somehow?
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on May 28, 2019 21:02:37 GMT -5
Since we're all speculating here, does anyone think Aisha Skinner, who was set to transfer in from Hofstra but abruptly moved back to Germany figures into this somehow? i was just about to mention this. You beat me to it.
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Post by hammer on May 28, 2019 21:16:28 GMT -5
Since we're all speculating here, does anyone think Aisha Skinner, who was set to transfer in from Hofstra but abruptly moved back to Germany figures into this somehow? i was just about to mention this. You beat me to it. Right now circumstantial, perhaps coincidental, but clearly suspicious. Russian collusion, no.
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Post by badgerbreath on May 28, 2019 21:20:27 GMT -5
Can I politely suggest something? Let's try to avoid naming particular students/ex SAs. The chances of dragging some innocent person, a student no less, through the mud for no reason at all is just too great, IMO. I know everyone wants to put faces and a name on this scandal - and I fault the AD with letting too much out about the circumstances of the investigation (clearly to provide cover for the rest of the program, but still). I want to know too, it's only human. But I've seen this speculation game run awry too often in the past. Particular SAs will stand out for any number of reasons. Speculate by DM if you must, but a public forum is too dangerous.
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Post by huskerjen on May 28, 2019 22:59:49 GMT -5
Iowa is paying for their recruits? Nothing against those athletes, but you'd think in volleyball you could easily get top 5 classes without spending an exorbitant amount. This isn't football or basketball. By definition, only five schools out of 300+ Div I schools can get Top 5 classes each year, so I guess the answer is "No," you really can't get Top 5 classes that easily. Also, it's Iowa, which may be a harder sell. My team, Hawaii, has NEVER had a Top 5 class which is why we resort to Ti leaves and prayers to Pele, the god of volcano destruction. Sure, but my point was that I assume almost no school pays players, meaning, Iowa should be recruiting better if they are. Money vs. no money is a big advantage...at least it should be.
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Post by volleyguy on May 28, 2019 23:06:56 GMT -5
By definition, only five schools out of 300+ Div I schools can get Top 5 classes each year, so I guess the answer is "No," you really can't get Top 5 classes that easily. Also, it's Iowa, which may be a harder sell. My team, Hawaii, has NEVER had a Top 5 class which is why we resort to Ti leaves and prayers to Pele, the god of volcano destruction. Sure, but my point was that I assume almost no school pays players, meaning, Iowa should be recruiting better if they are. Money vs. no money is a big advantage...at least it should be. Well, obviously, every school pays players. The question at issue is the value that is placed on the money that is paid, presumably legally at first (in other words, a full-ride scholarship to Iowa wasn't enough?)
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Post by Mocha on May 29, 2019 0:02:14 GMT -5
This is totally irresponsible; it's been almost a week, if it was true we would've heard about it by now.
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Post by volleyguy on May 29, 2019 0:40:25 GMT -5
This is totally irresponsible; it's been almost a week, if it was true we would've heard about it by now. Why? His termination is a confidential personnel issue. An interim has already been named, and we won't necessarily hear anything until there is another personnel action.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 29, 2019 2:51:09 GMT -5
By definition, only five schools out of 300+ Div I schools can get Top 5 classes each year, so I guess the answer is "No," you really can't get Top 5 classes that easily. Also, it's Iowa, which may be a harder sell. My team, Hawaii, has NEVER had a Top 5 class which is why we resort to Ti leaves and prayers to Pele, the god of volcano destruction. You'd be better off with Pele, the soccer legend. Why would anyone pray to a living person? That Shiite don’t fly in my house.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 7:28:31 GMT -5
Sure, but my point was that I assume almost no school pays players, meaning, Iowa should be recruiting better if they are. Money vs. no money is a big advantage...at least it should be. Well, obviously, every school pays players. The question at issue is the value that is placed on the money that is paid, presumably legally at first (in other words, a full-ride scholarship to Iowa wasn't enough?) An impermissible benefit could actually be a quite small sum of money or something of reasonably small value, like a plane ticket. Will have to wait and see.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 7:32:05 GMT -5
Can I politely suggest something? Let's try to avoid naming particular students/ex SAs. The chances of dragging some innocent person, a student no less, through the mud for no reason at all is just too great, IMO. I know everyone wants to put faces and a name on this scandal - and I fault the AD with letting too much out about the circumstances of the investigation (clearly to provide cover for the rest of the program, but still). I want to know too, it's only human. But I've seen this speculation game run awry too often in the past. Particular SAs will stand out for any number of reasons. Speculate by DM if you must, but a public forum is too dangerous. For the record, I highly doubt Sheehan has anything to do with this, if it indeed is about money/benefits. She started at Iowa as a freshman and I’m presuming she could’ve stayed there and kept playing. My guess is she left due to some combination of homesickness and/or not having the best fit with the team/coaches/school. Though would like to know what she has said about that, if there are any quotes of her’s published anywhere.
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on May 29, 2019 8:10:43 GMT -5
Iowa is paying for their recruits? Nothing against those athletes, but you'd think in volleyball you could easily get top 5 classes without spending an exorbitant amount. This isn't football or basketball. Stanford/Penn State/Florida/Texas/Wisconsin/Nebraska/Minnesota...Hell Iowa can't even get a top 5 B1G recruiting class without giving out cars and houses to recruits like they are on Oprah
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Post by pepperbrooks on May 29, 2019 8:31:25 GMT -5
Iowa is paying for their recruits? Nothing against those athletes, but you'd think in volleyball you could easily get top 5 classes without spending an exorbitant amount. This isn't football or basketball. I don't know about "easily." It's pretty tough to line up that good a class for a LOT of schools.
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