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Post by azvb on Jun 25, 2019 13:24:45 GMT -5
Arizona had a pretty good NJCAA dynasty in the late 70’s, 80’s. all due to rampant rules violations evidently Again, valid point. Back then there weren’t divisions like their are now. We were competing against schools who gave books, tuition, and sometimes room and board. We could give books, if we fund raised for them. But our biggest competition was within our own Conference. And yes, rules were broken. Not to excuse myself, but I didn’t find out about the major ones until after the season was over. BUT, I just remembered I used to sell shoes, knee pads we didn’t use during the season at spring tournaments, and put the cash in my book account. Pretty sure that was against the rules, too. Man, I’m laying it all out here. Major highjack. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 15:01:00 GMT -5
Meh this thread is played out. Don’t think anyone is going to be releasing any new major statements, at least until the NCAA issues their report, months from now.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jun 25, 2019 15:29:27 GMT -5
Meh this thread is played out. Don’t think anyone is going to be releasing any new major statements, at least until the NCAA issues their report, months from now. When has that ever stopped the VT crowd?
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Post by jayj79 on Jun 25, 2019 16:35:07 GMT -5
"Shymansky fired at Iowa" that title evokes mental images of a human cannonball
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Post by MsRSV on Jun 25, 2019 17:34:35 GMT -5
We have some reporting on the actual language of his contract, which suggests that he is limited to arbitration in an appeal of his termination. Unless there is specific language, I highly doubt he can be fired for cause and forced to pay the $330K "buyout". If he resigns in lieu of appealing a termination, he could negotiate a waiver of all or some of the buyout amount. If he resigns, they'll be so relieved that they'll just let him go without enforcing the buyout. The buyout is not there for the current employer to make money, rather it's a way to deter valued coaches from seeking employment elsewhere and if they do so, the current employer wants to be paid, usually by the new employer. If the coach is not "valued," then they don't care about the buyout clause. They just want him outta there. (Of course, you'll never know if your coach is going to be valuable or not at the outset, so the buyout is a "just in case.") The $300,000 buyout is really low. I remember a discussion on VT where Tom Hilbert (of Colorado State) was said to be possibly interested in the Wisconsin job (I think?) and someone brought up Hilbert's buyout at CSU. It was in the $5M neighborhood. I don't know if this is true or not. I think it was more like a $1M and folks thought that was ridiculous.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jun 25, 2019 17:52:53 GMT -5
If he resigns, they'll be so relieved that they'll just let him go without enforcing the buyout. The buyout is not there for the current employer to make money, rather it's a way to deter valued coaches from seeking employment elsewhere and if they do so, the current employer wants to be paid, usually by the new employer. If the coach is not "valued," then they don't care about the buyout clause. They just want him outta there. (Of course, you'll never know if your coach is going to be valuable or not at the outset, so the buyout is a "just in case.") The $300,000 buyout is really low. I remember a discussion on VT where Tom Hilbert (of Colorado State) was said to be possibly interested in the Wisconsin job (I think?) and someone brought up Hilbert's buyout at CSU. It was in the $5M neighborhood. I don't know if this is true or not. I think it was more like a $1M and folks thought that was ridiculous. And it was Colorado.
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Post by hammer on Jun 25, 2019 18:12:13 GMT -5
I think it was more like a $1M and folks thought that was ridiculous. And it was Colorado. That would have a been a slap in the face. For CSU, losing a coach to CU is one of the worst possible outcomes.
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Post by vbdiva on Jun 26, 2019 0:16:32 GMT -5
I heard he offered the 6ft-12 blond bombshell from Palo Alto U, 450K in all small bills
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Post by codigger on Jun 26, 2019 8:49:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 9:13:56 GMT -5
This provided no additional info than already known.
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Post by Not Me on Jun 26, 2019 10:41:37 GMT -5
"She came to Iowa City expecting to be on full scholarship, but when that status changed, she had nowhere else to turn."
Why did she expect to be on full scholarship? Why did that status change?
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Post by FreeBall on Jun 26, 2019 13:09:27 GMT -5
This provided no additional info than already known. Agreed, because the same link was posted by jayj79 on Page 29 on 6/20/19.
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Post by JT on Jun 26, 2019 18:07:48 GMT -5
"She came to Iowa City expecting to be on full scholarship, but when that status changed, she had nowhere else to turn." Why did she expect to be on full scholarship? Why did that status change? *Guess* on my part... she transferred in the summer session, and thought she’d be on scholarship right way, when her IA scholarship didn’t start until the fall semester.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 7:27:00 GMT -5
"She came to Iowa City expecting to be on full scholarship, but when that status changed, she had nowhere else to turn." Why did she expect to be on full scholarship? Why did that status change? *Guess* on my part... she transferred in the summer session, and thought she’d be on scholarship right way, when her IA scholarship didn’t start until the fall semester. Right, I guessed the same back when this same link was posed earlier in the thread. And then you wonder, surely the coach would’ve known and been able to tell her that she wouldn’t be allowed to go on scholarship until fall semester. So either he mislead her, she didn’t listen to him, or there was a wink, wink arrangement alluded to, in my opinion.
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Post by athena on Jun 27, 2019 9:32:21 GMT -5
She could have gotten a summer sublet super cheap. I would bet there is more to this story, I was never a fan of this egotistical coach.
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