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Post by pepperbrooks on Jul 19, 2019 16:03:13 GMT -5
(For the record, he could be a GREAT coach. But 26-year-olds don’t get head coaching jobs in the SEC) Jordyn Wieber just accepted the head women's gymnastics coaching job at Arkansas - a top 20 program with an average home attendance over 3,000 per meet - at age 24. (I realize it's not volleyball -- but it's a 12-headcount women's scholarship sport in the SEC. Also, I agree, this isn't commonplace and she's most definitely the exception rather than the norm, but it's not totally unheard of anymore for a power conference to take a chance on a young coach. Georgia hired Courtney Kupets after a couple tries at replacing Suzanne Yoculan; it was Courtney's first NCAA coaching job and I believe she was 27 or 28 when the announcement that she'd take over was made.) Jordyn Wieber is a little bit of a different situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 16:33:40 GMT -5
Jordyn Wieber just accepted the head women's gymnastics coaching job at Arkansas - a top 20 program with an average home attendance over 3,000 per meet - at age 24. (I realize it's not volleyball -- but it's a 12-headcount women's scholarship sport in the SEC. Also, I agree, this isn't commonplace and she's most definitely the exception rather than the norm, but it's not totally unheard of anymore for a power conference to take a chance on a young coach. Georgia hired Courtney Kupets after a couple tries at replacing Suzanne Yoculan; it was Courtney's first NCAA coaching job and I believe she was 27 or 28 when the announcement that she'd take over was made.) Jordyn Wieber is a little bit of a different situation. In that she’s never been a paid coach in her life? Don’t get me wrong - I know the Wiebers, and am one of Jordyn’s biggest supporters. But her accolades as an elite gymnast is what sets her apart or makes her situation “a bit different” I suppose - but that doesn’t really translate in gymnastics to guaranteed success as a coach. She spent some time at UCLA in a volunteer capacity; but this is still a risky hire for Arkansas. She’s 24, and unproven as a coach. Again - I think she’ll do great things at Arkansas and absolutely think she’ll prove to them that they made a great choice. But she’s still technically a 24 year old head coach in the SEC.
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Post by stats1st on Jul 19, 2019 16:42:29 GMT -5
“I told (the team) yesterday, that if I ever got to a point where I couldn't give 100 percent and put as much in as they're putting in and what they deserve, and what they need, then it was time to re-evaluate, and, and honestly, that's kind of what happened," he said." - Wayne Kreklow "Wayne, 62, a college basketball standout at Drake in the 1970s, won an NBA championship with the Boston Celtics as a reserve in 1980-81. Over the last 18 months, he’s been away from the court for long stretches, having undergone hip replacement, double hernia surgery and knee replacement just four weeks ago. He insisted he’s in good shape otherwise, but the surgeries factored into his retirement plans."
via StLToday www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/kreklows-at-peace-with-decision-to-walk-away-from-mizzou/article_715e92a1-dac2-513e-88bf-ef4094aa6d4d.htmlThis has been in the works for weeks if not months...for people in the know it wasn't a shock.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jul 19, 2019 18:14:13 GMT -5
Jordyn Wieber is a little bit of a different situation. In that she’s never been a paid coach in her life? Don’t get me wrong - I know the Wiebers, and am one of Jordyn’s biggest supporters. But her accolades as an elite gymnast is what sets her apart or makes her situation “a bit different” I suppose - but that doesn’t really translate in gymnastics to guaranteed success as a coach. She spent some time at UCLA in a volunteer capacity; but this is still a risky hire for Arkansas. She’s 24, and unproven as a coach. Again - I think she’ll do great things at Arkansas and absolutely think she’ll prove to them that they made a great choice. But she’s still technically a 24 year old head coach in the SEC. Yes but that’s two exceptions in a big world. These are outliers.
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Post by 808 State on Jul 19, 2019 18:31:46 GMT -5
🤔 keeping it in the family I see. Nice move there by the elder couple. Josh and wife could or can probably do it. It’s just that it seems it wasn’t opened up for others to apply for it. Both are excellent players, no doubt they would make good coaches.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 19:58:50 GMT -5
In that she’s never been a paid coach in her life? Don’t get me wrong - I know the Wiebers, and am one of Jordyn’s biggest supporters. But her accolades as an elite gymnast is what sets her apart or makes her situation “a bit different” I suppose - but that doesn’t really translate in gymnastics to guaranteed success as a coach. She spent some time at UCLA in a volunteer capacity; but this is still a risky hire for Arkansas. She’s 24, and unproven as a coach. Again - I think she’ll do great things at Arkansas and absolutely think she’ll prove to them that they made a great choice. But she’s still technically a 24 year old head coach in the SEC. Yes but that’s two exceptions in a big world. These are outliers. Oh, I agree. Just saying it’s not impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 21:39:56 GMT -5
🤔 keeping it in the family I see. Nice move there by the elder couple. Josh and wife could or can probably do it. It’s just that it seems it wasn’t opened up for others to apply for it. Both are excellent players, no doubt they would make good coaches. Being an excellent player has no correlation to being an excellent coach.
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Post by hammer on Jul 19, 2019 21:56:38 GMT -5
🤔 keeping it in the family I see. Nice move there by the elder couple. Josh and wife could or can probably do it. It’s just that it seems it wasn’t opened up for others to apply for it. Both are excellent players, no doubt they would make good coaches. Being an excellent player has no correlation to being an excellent coach. Being a player helps with technical aspects but there is so much more. Good organizational and psychological skills are two others that are also needed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:10:57 GMT -5
Being an excellent player has no correlation to being an excellent coach. Being a player helps with technical aspects but there is so much more. Good organizational and psychological skills are two others that are also needed. Even with the technical, you can be great but you have to be able to instruct. In the case of college you have to be able to recruit which means have a personality. A friend wrote something on his blog about it with the major sports. Very few great coaches were great players.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 20, 2019 7:41:04 GMT -5
Being a player helps with technical aspects but there is so much more. Good organizational and psychological skills are two others that are also needed. Even with the technical, you can be great but you have to be able to instruct. In the case of college you have to be able to recruit which means have a personality. A friend wrote something on his blog about it with the major sports. Very few great coaches were great players. Exactly. Really great players end up saying something along the lines of: but it is SO easy, why can't you see that? When they first start coaching.
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Post by vbkahuna on Jul 20, 2019 8:33:12 GMT -5
🤔 keeping it in the family I see. Nice move there by the elder couple. Josh and wife could or can probably do it. It’s just that it seems it wasn’t opened up for others to apply for it. Both are excellent players, no doubt they would make good coaches. Being an excellent player has no correlation to being an excellent coach. Well, I guess your theory is being tested to the max at Illinois where the head coach, both assistant coaches, and the volunteer coach all were excellent players (either USNT and/or pro)...and they took a team that didn't even make the playoffs two years ago to the Final Four last year. Your generalization would be more accurate if you had said: being an excellent player isn't a requirement for being an excellent coach, but it could be a significant additional factor if the other skills needed are already present or being developed with experience.
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Post by horns1 on Jul 20, 2019 8:39:13 GMT -5
“I told (the team) yesterday, that if I ever got to a point where I couldn't give 100 percent and put as much in as they're putting in and what they deserve, and what they need, then it was time to re-evaluate, and, and honestly, that's kind of what happened," he said." - Wayne Kreklow "Wayne, 62, a college basketball standout at Drake in the 1970s, won an NBA championship with the Boston Celtics as a reserve in 1980-81. Over the last 18 months, he’s been away from the court for long stretches, having undergone hip replacement, double hernia surgery and knee replacement just four weeks ago. He insisted he’s in good shape otherwise, but the surgeries factored into his retirement plans."
via StLToday www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/kreklows-at-peace-with-decision-to-walk-away-from-mizzou/article_715e92a1-dac2-513e-88bf-ef4094aa6d4d.htmlThis has been in the works for weeks if not months... for people in the know it wasn't a shock. What about for the players?
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Post by vbgirls2 on Jul 20, 2019 8:50:10 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Josh and Molly Taylor have been assistants with the program for the last 4-5 years. They know how to run practices, schedule travel and from what I have been told are very organized. The women on the team love them! Young coaches need to start somewhere and being mentored by the Kreklows the last few years was a great way to start their coaching careers. I’m not worried about Mizzou at all.
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Post by n00b on Jul 20, 2019 10:17:02 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Josh and Molly Taylor have been assistants with the program for the last 4-5 years. They know how to run practices, schedule travel and from what I have been told are very organized. The women on the team love them! Young coaches need to start somewhere and being mentored by the Kreklows the last few years was a great way to start their coaching careers. I’m not worried about Mizzou at all. Josh has been there for 2 seasons. And has no other coaching experience. I would say it's likely he was only hired in the first place as an ASSISTANT because of his marriage to Molly.
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Post by hammer on Jul 20, 2019 10:20:45 GMT -5
Wow, I tune this morning and the top two non-pinned threads have the word "Missouri" in them ... who would have thunk it! Show Me ...
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