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Post by dunninla3 on Sept 21, 2019 2:41:41 GMT -5
OK, I googled it and it appears that Sets Ratio was not used to break a 3 way tie in won/loss record in pool at the World Championships in Hamburg. It appears they count the rally points won/lost vs. the two common opponents (not the sets won/lost, the total rally points). The two teams with the higher points won to points lost ratio advance over the third team. The Hamburg Pool Play 3-way tie break method is describe here: hamburg2019.com/en/2600/competition_system?active=MatchesThat is one weird ass tie break system, if it's true. I also found the FIVB DOES use Sets Ratio in Indoor World League. Why would FIVB Beach not use Sets Ratio? The whole objective of the game is to win the set. Italy won more sets in Pool than GER, yet GER advances and Italy doesn't.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 21, 2019 3:44:29 GMT -5
OK, I googled it and it appears that Sets Ratio was not used to break a 3 way tie in won/loss record in pool at the World Championships in Hamburg. It appears they count the rally points won/lost vs. the two common opponents (not the sets won/lost, the total rally points). The two teams with the higher points won to points lost ratio advance over the third team. The Hamburg Pool Play 3-way tie break method is describe here: hamburg2019.com/en/2600/competition_system?active=MatchesThat is one weird ass tie break system, if it's true. I also found the FIVB DOES use Sets Ratio in Indoor World League. Why would FIVB Beach not use Sets Ratio? The whole objective of the game is to win the set. Italy won more sets in Pool than GER, yet GER advances and Italy doesn't. Why would the FIVB not use any clear, transparent tie break thats easy to understand. Nothing says "fan friendly" like hardcore fans having to do research to figure out a situation that occurs constantly. A dachsund with a head injury could do a better job than the FIVB at policies and procedures
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Post by bvffr on Sept 21, 2019 4:36:00 GMT -5
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Post by volley2022 on Sept 29, 2019 12:44:03 GMT -5
September 29
FIVB
The final four 2019 tournaments will be double-gender competitions in China (Qinzhou, October 30-November 3), Israel (Tel Aviv, November 6-9), Qatar (Doha, November 12-15) and Mexico (Chetumal, November 13-17).
The complete 2019-2020 FIVB World Tour schedule is still being finalized as the 2020 portion of the calendar will be highlighted by qualifying events for the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games through mid-June.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 29, 2019 13:48:08 GMT -5
September 29 FIVB The final four 2019 tournaments will be double-gender competitions in China (Qinzhou, October 30-November 3), Israel (Tel Aviv, November 6-9), Qatar (Doha, November 12-15) and Mexico (Chetumal, November 13-17). The complete 2019-2020 FIVB World Tour schedule is still being finalized as the 2020 portion of the calendar will be highlighted by qualifying events for the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games through mid-June. Qatar is double gender?
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Post by tamz on Sept 29, 2019 13:52:16 GMT -5
September 29 FIVB The final four 2019 tournaments will be double-gender competitions in China (Qinzhou, October 30-November 3), Israel (Tel Aviv, November 6-9), Qatar (Doha, November 12-15) and Mexico (Chetumal, November 13-17). The complete 2019-2020 FIVB World Tour schedule is still being finalized as the 2020 portion of the calendar will be highlighted by qualifying events for the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games through mid-June. Qatar is double gender? Yeah. 1* event though
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Post by guest2 on Sept 30, 2019 8:02:48 GMT -5
Even a one star I'd be borderline shocked if it happened. It would be a pretty big change in society I think the same thing happened last year with the schedule. Maybe in some closed limited facility, but I'm very skeptical the Qataris would allow it
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Post by downtheline on Oct 1, 2019 15:18:11 GMT -5
Just when everyone thought summer time is winding down in the South Bay and many of the athletes are all looking to celebrate the off season.
I spied Summer Ross taking it to the beach today in her first workout since being injured. Awesome news, good luck to her on recovery and playing the last two events this year..
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Post by pepperclove on Oct 1, 2019 18:18:37 GMT -5
One thing about the ridiculously long Olympic qualification period is that it allows for players to get injured, recover, and come back. For example, the Australians missed a ton of time with an injury to one of them, but I think they're still in good shape to qualify if she comes back healthy. Sara and Summer have a tougher road mainly because the US women are so strong - if all they had to do was finish in the top 15 by the end of the qualification period, I don't think they'd have a problem. Nice to hear that Summer is back on the beach!
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Post by keeweekid on Oct 1, 2019 20:56:49 GMT -5
Glad to hear that Summer is back and playing. Hopefully the back pain will not resurface.
In terms of qualifying, it looks like they have too much ground to make up.
Assuming there are roughly 6 tournaments left, they would need to avg. 570 points per tournament in each of the remaining 6 tournaments just to TIE the current 12 tournament total that KWJ/Brooke have.
That would mean making finals in 3*'s, and getting to at least the semis in each of the 4*'s. Granted, if they finished 1st or 2nd in a 4*, that would take some of the pressure off of having to produce finals or semi-finals finishes in every tournament.
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Post by tamz on Oct 1, 2019 21:00:16 GMT -5
Glad to hear that Summer is back and playing. Hopefully the back pain will not resurface. In terms of qualifying, it looks like they have too much ground to make up. Assuming there are roughly 6 tournaments left, they would need to avg. 570 points per tournament in each of the remaining 6 tournaments just to TIE the current 12 tournament total that KWJ/Brooke have. That would mean making finals in 3*'s, and getting to at least the semis in each of the 4*'s. Granted, if they finished 1st or 2nd in a 4*, that would take some of the pressure off of having to produce finals or semi-finals finishes in every tournament. Also to add the fact that they’ll be in CQ when ATeam does play next year.
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 1, 2019 22:13:13 GMT -5
In terms of qualifying, it looks like they have too much ground to make up. I don't think that's true, but I really haven't looked at 2S situation for about eight weeks. IF Summer is healthy, I wouldn't put it past them to finish on the podium in several of the remaining tournaments... There are (3) 3* There are (4) or (5) 4* What would happen if they podium in five of the seven or eight tournaments? FIVB really needs to release the 2020 portion of their calendar. I'm assuming the delay is caused by convincing sponsors to host a tournament, which is kinda sad.
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 1, 2019 22:19:15 GMT -5
OK, checked, and here is how they are now, only counting TOP 8:
PER PLAYER -- Summer/Sara: (480, 320, 280, 200, 200, 200, 200, 160) 2040
That is definitely NOT out of contention. They would need to finish ahead of KWJ/BS, Slaes, and Stocsen in most of the remaining tournaments, while at the same time reaching podium in most of them. Seriously , look at what UCLA football did in the 2nd half against WSU ten days ago. Highly improbable things happen.
The big issue for Summer's back is having to fight out of CQ whenever A-Team is entered in the same tournament... so probably half of the first 4-5 of those tournaments They'd have to beat one of the 3 teams ahead of them, probably Stocsen and maybe Day/Flint, then not get upset in Qualifier, just to get to MD.
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Post by downtheline on Oct 2, 2019 0:58:22 GMT -5
No easy task for sure.
They will need to return and even improve to their former capabilities.
New coach, new trainers, new perspective.
Let’s see what the new year brings for the other teams.
Some teams didn’t finish as strong as you would think.
KW/Sweat are already looking over their shoulder.
Should be a dynamic 2020.
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Post by guest2 on Oct 2, 2019 4:11:38 GMT -5
In terms of qualifying, it looks like they have too much ground to make up. I don't think that's true, but I really haven't looked at 2S situation for about eight weeks. IF Summer is healthy, I wouldn't put it past them to finish on the podium in several of the remaining tournaments... There are (3) 3* There are (4) or (5) 4* What would happen if they podium in five of the seven or eight tournaments? FIVB really needs to release the 2020 portion of their calendar. I'm assuming the delay is caused by convincing sponsors to host a tournament, which is kinda sad. They would be the best US team and probably the world. Podium on 5 of 8, unless three are the three stars is Larissa level play. Summer just isnt physical enough for that. Solid team and they put a lot of pressure on opponents but there are 7-10 teams out there who, if both teams bring their A games, beat SS. (Of course SS ability to be more consistent is how they beat those teams, but 5 of 8 would be astounding)
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