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Post by volleyguy on Oct 17, 2019 13:00:42 GMT -5
I thought they did this for every team. Aren't teams required to submit injury reports/reasons for records to take into consideration for a team's Nitty Gritty report? Or is it just for basketball? I am not aware of this - but I am also not in the know and am speculating. Regardless - it is a slippery slope to factor in injuries and impossible to quantify. I think they are going to rely on RPI. I have thought about this before, Women's VB injuries are way less public than Men's BB injuries. I am sure this is mostly due to the # of people following and how information gets out. It still seems like you will have a BB coach publicly discuss a player's injury and timetable for return - this never happens in volleyball. I am not even sure how BB coaches are able to legally talk about injuries, but it seems like they do. I'm not aware of a specific use for Football/Basketball, but the NCAA has HIPAA waiver forms for certain activities (anonymous aggregate data samples on a variety of subjects, etc.), and that seems to the explanation that makes sense.
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Post by vbstan123 on Oct 17, 2019 13:00:44 GMT -5
I just cannot wrap my head around the thought of a team with only 1 top 25 win being considered for a top 4 seed...like what
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Post by nakedcrayon on Oct 17, 2019 13:56:46 GMT -5
The lowest one is over $1000 so that is a bunch of bunk to put it mildly
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Post by Cruz'n on Oct 17, 2019 15:07:48 GMT -5
When you click on the link, it says "sorry, this flight is no longer available." And the next cheapest flight is $987.
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Post by trojansc on Oct 17, 2019 15:12:47 GMT -5
I just cannot wrap my head around the thought of a team with only 1 top 25 win being considered for a top 4 seed...like what I’m going to assume you mean Rice or Pittsburgh? What can’t you wrap your head around? The fact that Rice could have a Top 5 RPI if they win out? Or the fact that Rice could potentially have even more T25 wins than BYU did as a regional seed (it’s not too likely - but it’s definitely possible). Rice would also potentially have a win against 1 of the other regional hosts (like BYU did). If Rice ends up with only 1 T25 win, or they don’t win out, they don’t really have a good chance, no matter their RPI.
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Post by hammer on Oct 17, 2019 15:31:50 GMT -5
When you click on the link, it says "sorry, this flight is no longer available." And the next cheapest flight is $987. Sorry, I did not click on the link ... I just saw the page. But with any super low fare they are usually fleeting, at odds times when no one wants to travel, etc. Let the buyer be aware.
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Post by davebrake38 on Oct 17, 2019 18:28:23 GMT -5
Third time thru all six pages. So much information. Thanks for all your work Torjansc.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 17, 2019 19:21:46 GMT -5
I thought they did this for every team. Aren't teams required to submit injury reports/reasons for records to take into consideration for a team's Nitty Gritty report? Or is it just for basketball? I am not aware of this - but I am also not in the know and am speculating. Regardless - it is a slippery slope to factor in injuries and impossible to quantify. I think they are going to rely on RPI. I have thought about this before, Women's VB injuries are way less public than Men's BB injuries. I am sure this is mostly due to the # of people following and how information gets out. It still seems like you will have a BB coach publicly discuss a player's injury and timetable for return - this never happens in volleyball. I am not even sure how BB coaches are able to legally talk about injuries, but it seems like they do. I suspect that the AD's office gets some type of general release (annual?) from each athlete which gives the coaches the ability to discuss injuries.
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Post by azsker on Oct 17, 2019 19:33:08 GMT -5
I just cannot wrap my head around the thought of a team with only 1 top 25 win being considered for a top 4 seed...like what Not only that, but they also lost to that same team. So I’m also puzzled.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Oct 17, 2019 20:04:33 GMT -5
When you click on the link, it says "sorry, this flight is no longer available." And the next cheapest flight is $987. Sorry, I did not click on the link ... I just saw the page. But with any super low fare they are usually fleeting, at odds times when no one wants to travel, etc. Let the buyer be aware. I think the smartest thing would be to fly in either to Austin or Dallas and then drive to Waco unless they have private charters.
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Post by Wiswell on Oct 17, 2019 20:10:47 GMT -5
I don't even agree with who you think is good. There are so many over inflated teams atm. Parity has caused chaos in predictability, and as such bad measuring of good teams who lost early or bad teams who have a great name recognition & history or bad teams who won early, are causing horrible data in to yield a horrible data out scenario IMHO. Nov5 should hold a much clearer picture. We should caution ourselves on making too much hay out of a single game, also to not ignore history. Clearly you are new. Trojan is such a genius at this it's like he's actually on the committee.
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Post by vbstan123 on Oct 18, 2019 2:37:00 GMT -5
I just cannot wrap my head around the thought of a team with only 1 top 25 win being considered for a top 4 seed...like what I’m going to assume you mean Rice or Pittsburgh? What can’t you wrap your head around? The fact that Rice could have a Top 5 RPI if they win out? Or the fact that Rice could potentially have even more T25 wins than BYU did as a regional seed (it’s not too likely - but it’s definitely possible). Rice would also potentially have a win against 1 of the other regional hosts (like BYU did). If Rice ends up with only 1 T25 win, or they don’t win out, they don’t really have a good chance, no matter their RPI. I was talking more about Rice, although Pitts schedule was a walk in the park. I guess I am confused as to why Rice's RPI is so high because I thought RPI relied more on strength of schedule, where Rice is lacking.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 18, 2019 3:17:28 GMT -5
I’m going to assume you mean Rice or Pittsburgh? What can’t you wrap your head around? The fact that Rice could have a Top 5 RPI if they win out? Or the fact that Rice could potentially have even more T25 wins than BYU did as a regional seed (it’s not too likely - but it’s definitely possible). Rice would also potentially have a win against 1 of the other regional hosts (like BYU did). If Rice ends up with only 1 T25 win, or they don’t win out, they don’t really have a good chance, no matter their RPI. I was talking more about Rice, although Pitts schedule was a walk in the park. I guess I am confused as to why Rice's RPI is so high because I thought RPI relied more on strength of schedule, where Rice is lacking. Rice has one loss. That alone will propel them with a good RPI. It’s not like their schedule was AWFUL.
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Post by utexrulz23 on Oct 18, 2019 5:22:46 GMT -5
It’s going to create some interesting challenges and opportunities if Baylor, Texas, and Rice all host a sub regional (and they will). If A&M also does (longshot) there’s going to be lots of fly-ins. That creates some unique opportunity for the committee to (functionally) seed the first two rounds more than usual.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 18, 2019 7:31:31 GMT -5
It’s going to create some interesting challenges and opportunities if Baylor, Texas, and Rice all host a sub regional (and they will). If A&M also does (longshot) there’s going to be lots of fly-ins. That creates some unique opportunity for the committee to (functionally) seed the first two rounds more than usual. If we assume Baylor, Texas, and Rice as locks and no to Texas A&M. Here are the drive-in potentials: Lock to get a bid: Texas A&M and Stephen F. Austin Potential: 1) Texas State: Texas State and Coastal Carolina are neck and neck to win the Sun Belt. The loser has a decent chance to get an at-large. 2) SWAC Winner: Prairie View A&M is probably favored to win the SWAC right now, but there are at least 4 teams that are pretty similar for winning the tournament and getting the automatic. Texas Southern could also win - I would say that Prairie winning the SWAC tournament is somewhere in the 30-35% range. 3) Southland Auto: Stephen F. Austin will win the conference, but it is possible they lose in the tournament. If they do get upset, it is likely to come from either Houston Baptist or Sam Houston and this would get two Texas schools from the conference in the tournament. 4) SMU: They are on the bubble, probably on the outside right now, but with some work they can get themselves into the tournament. 5) UTSA: Would need a lot more work to get an at-large, but it is still possible for them. Beating both Rice and Western Kentucky in the conference tournament seems like a pretty unlikely outcome. Probably looking at 2 to 5 drive-ins for those top 3 Texas schools out of 9 slots. There will be some fly-ins and possibly a lot.
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