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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2004 18:46:46 GMT -5
SHORT term there could be some gains, with ESPNU competing against CSTV and the Fox college sports network, whatever that is. Maybe the added exposure helps out long term?
But I do think there will be consolidation.
It's a shame. Such a great sport and we can't seem to convince the general populace. I still say the solution is for women to embrace this sport instead of such crap like ice skating and gymnastics (or even football). But it's just not happening.
(And, yes, I'm generalizing.)
(And, for IslandGirl, I am 60% sure this opinion coincides with Truth. ;D )
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Post by Touch10 on Dec 13, 2004 22:48:00 GMT -5
The solution is to make volleyball a contact sport, and they need to wear the beach volleyball garb…blood and skin always win!
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Post by ACE on Dec 13, 2004 23:17:45 GMT -5
anyone remember when the Championship match was on CBS? I do, I forget the match, but remember one person playing in the championship game...Danelle Scott.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 14, 2004 14:29:23 GMT -5
Well...crap. There's just no way around this unless volleyball gets much more popular. Volleyball is getting more popular each year. Thanks to teams like Nebraska, Penn State, Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, which took the sport away from California and Hawaii and are succeeding in spreading it all over the country.
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Post by mookieblaylock on Dec 14, 2004 14:34:09 GMT -5
It is getting more popular, but we have no Mia Hamm. Walsh and May are the closest thing, and they're beach players.
We need a Mia Hamm.
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Post by ugopher on Dec 14, 2004 14:57:21 GMT -5
We have/had Stacey Gordon, Oganna Nnamani, etc.
To me, the biggest challenges are two-fold: 1. There are no professional leagues in the United States to keep the better players in the spotlight; and 2. The men's programs are as widespread. This a two-edged sword. I like the fact that volleyball, at least around the Midwest, is primarily a sport that women call their own and are not compared to the men. On the other hand, a male-dominated sports media world has trouble covering a sport that does not include men.
My god! The local Mpls/St. Paul papers had front page stories about a professional lacrosse league, for crying out loud. Providing front page coverage when MN was hosting the regional and participating in said regional. Pathetic.
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Post by mookieblaylock on Dec 14, 2004 15:01:27 GMT -5
But women's soccer has blossomed despite not having a pro league (not a long-lasting one, anyways).
Soccer gets all the good breaks.
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Post by BearClause on Dec 14, 2004 15:11:16 GMT -5
But women's soccer has blossomed despite not having a pro league (not a long-lasting one, anyways). Soccer gets all the good breaks. There is so much organized soccer in the US, starting with 5 year olds. This is your built-in audience. I don't want to even think what 5 year olds playing volleyball would look like. I'm not complaining that ESPN is showing volleyball. To me, that they actually show it outweighs the editing problems, length of broadcast, or bad broadcasters.
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Post by gobears on Dec 14, 2004 15:52:45 GMT -5
Any way to contact the local independent TV stations in various cities, esp those in the areas around the Final Four and the Regionals. For instance Ch 4 here in the Bay Area likes carry local stuff, advertising locally would be cheaper and easier to come up with.
IE. Stanford/Cal or any other local school in Regionals/Finals would have a local viewership and corporate folks already tied in to their school's athletic dept. When folks scream loud enough around here Ch 4 or 36 sometimes carries a local game in other sports. ...and they get it done in a week's time. Now that Regional Sites are also being determined ahead of time as well as the Final Four, sure would be nice if the effort was made by the local SID's somehow. They could certainly plan ahead for it. Start with something as to coverage and expand using local independent TV stations.
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Post by squared on Dec 14, 2004 18:52:48 GMT -5
ESPN is to blame, at least partially. They are playing the World Paintball Championships during the semis. Are advertisers more apt to pay for commercial time during the NCAA's or the WPC's? The NCAA and USAV are also to blame. They need to do a better job marketing the sport.
It doesn't help that there are few local news sports reporters who are willing, or know enough, to actually cover the sport.
Bottom line is CSTV does the best job and seems to have made a commitment to cover volleyball (as shown in the region finals). If the NCAA would grant them more coverage perhaps they could expand to more areas of coverage.
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Post by weaver on Dec 14, 2004 19:05:10 GMT -5
ESPN2 listing is showing both semifinals being 2 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2004 20:01:18 GMT -5
ESPN2 listing is showing both semifinals being 2 hours. Well, cripes. That makes us look a little stupid, doesn't it? If you're going to start using actual facts, I'm not playing anymore.
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Post by FloridaPerson on Dec 14, 2004 21:23:00 GMT -5
I thought the 2 hour thing was known.
anyways, I'm pretty sure i heard lots of faffing from the ncaa and ESPN regarding a new, long term deal to cover division 1 championships.
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Post by Jumper40 on Dec 14, 2004 21:25:12 GMT -5
What happened to equality in men and women's sports. The men are getting more air time. Come on, lets hear you athletic directors, start doing your job. How dare you allow, women's volleyball to take a back seat. Title IX forever; lets enforce it.
Jumper40 The Magnificent
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Post by ugopher on Dec 14, 2004 21:59:24 GMT -5
I don't know if the NCAA can dictate Title IX to the networks.
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