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Post by cardfan15 on Dec 14, 2004 20:44:28 GMT -5
This is a question for those in the know. I was watching my tape from the 2001 finals (prepping for this weekend), and was wondering what makes John Dunning and Corlett such a good team. What are each one's strengths. I know they have recruited some amazing players, but as far as coaching what do they do so well?
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Post by Tdome2 on Dec 14, 2004 20:52:27 GMT -5
If Dunning wins the NC this year it will be his 4th. It will be his first with a team he has basically put together. The first three he was handed the keys and didn't crash. Is that a strength?
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Post by BearClause on Dec 14, 2004 21:25:05 GMT -5
If Dunning wins the NC this year it will be his 4th. It will be his first with a team he has basically put together. The first three he was handed the keys and didn't crash. Is that a strength? Not exactly. Nnamani, Hall, and Hucke were recruited during Don Shaw's tenure. What was really surprising was when Shaw left to take the Stanford men's HC position in the Summer of 2001 to replace Ruben Nieves. The timing was just WAY off, and I've heard Dunning's sudden departure was a big shock to the Pacific players he recruited. There were allegations that some of those players gave Dunning the cold shoulder last season when Pacific played Stanford in the NCAA 2nd rd. |
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Post by StanfordFan on Dec 14, 2004 21:33:56 GMT -5
[quote author=BearClause link=board=general&thread=1103075068&start=2#0 date=1103077505]
There were allegations that some of those players gave Dunning the cold shoulder last season when Pacific played Stanford in the NCAA 2nd rd.[/quote]
I imagine that was probably more hype than reality. And if it's true, then those players have some growing up to do. People move for different reasons and different opportunities. To take personal offense at it is immature and counterproductive, not to mention impossibly poor sportsmanship.
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Post by BearClause on Dec 14, 2004 22:01:44 GMT -5
I imagine that was probably more hype than reality. And if it's true, then those players have some growing up to do. People move for different reasons and different opportunities. To take personal offense at it is immature and counterproductive, not to mention impossibly poor sportsmanship. Yeah - I know. However - I remember talking to the parents of a player who was recruited by a coach who left. Apparently she was devastated, but eventually got over it. There didn't appear to be any hard feelings about the coach though. I tend to cut 18 year olds some slack; one tends to be very emotional at that age. |
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Post by georgia(pacific)girl on Dec 15, 2004 1:18:36 GMT -5
Dunning's departure was indeed a shock to Pacific fans.
I don't think the players gave Dunning a cold shoulder at last year's NCAA match. Of course, they weren't out there giving him hugs either, for Pete's sake, Pacific LOST. The Pacific players weren't in a mood for hugging anybody.
Mary Lauren Smith is the only player that left the program because of Dunning's departure. Some players were, of course, disappointed that he left.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Dec 15, 2004 1:41:24 GMT -5
Because they are both so donw to earth. They both really care about their players. They are great people. And Denise is so nice. She works so hard.
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Post by BearClause on Dec 15, 2004 2:17:55 GMT -5
[quote author=vacationing Pacificgirl link=board=general&thread=1103075068&start=5#0 date=1103091516]Dunning's departure was indeed a shock to Pacific fans. I don't think the players gave Dunning a cold shoulder at last year's NCAA match. Of course, they weren't out there giving him hugs either, for Pete's sake, Pacific LOST. The Pacific players weren't in a mood for hugging anybody. Mary Lauren Smith is the only player that left the program because of Dunning's departure. Some players were, of course, disappointed that he left.[/quote] I thought I read something about it in the Stockton Record or maybe on this board. What I seem to recall was something about Dunning trying to give his regards to the players he recruited to Pacific before they boarded their bus home. As for hugs - I've seen plenty of consolation hugs after an NCAA Tournament loss, although never from an opposing coach. The Stanford vacancy came up really late. In following VB for several years, I can't recall any major women's VB program hiring a replacement coach that late (July). The timing was centered around the resignation of Stanford men's HC Ruben Nieves to head the Positive Coaching Alliance in May. Then Stanford AD Ted Leland suggested that Don Shaw apply for the Stanford men's VB job that Coach Nieves vacated and he took the job in June. Dunning was then contacted and took the Stanford women's HC job. I imagine Dunning didn't have a chance to say goodbye to his former players. sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/07/07/SP224621.DTLsfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/07/14/SP161239.DTLI had the pleasure of talking to Jennifer Joines (she was SO nice) at Haas Pavilion. When I asked about her recruitment, she mentioned that she signed at Pacific to play for Dunning, and specifically mentioned "...and he left". |
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Post by StuffU on Dec 15, 2004 11:59:57 GMT -5
Dunning is a great coach. He coaches the technical part of the game really well. In addition he is good with balancing the personalities of girls and emotional part of the game that male coaches often miss. Denise is a great recruiter. She had an amazing eye for talent and does her job really well. That is why they are so great. Does Denise really have a great eye for talent? Has there really been a "project" player that Stanford recruited because of untapped talent potential? And has this person developed into a serious contributor? Just wondering because I don't think it's all that difficult to spot a player's that is a part of the US National team pipeline (developmental programs, jrs, and such) or Fab 50 list which generally make up a Stanford recruiting class. Just wondering .... |
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Post by Tdome2 on Dec 15, 2004 12:06:21 GMT -5
Dunning is a great coach. He coaches the technical part of the game really well. In addition he is good with balancing the personalities of girls and emotional part of the game that male coaches often miss. Denise is a great recruiter. She had an amazing eye for talent and does her job really well. That is why they are so great. Eye for talent = sign up for a recruiting service, call every player with a 1 next to their name offer scholarship to the ones that can get into school... Come on... The hardest part is deciding which All-American to offer first. An eye for talent is a coach at a mid-major that can take a bunch of kids outside the Fab 50, that the coach knows they can train and make the Dance with. What Denise does do well recruiting wise is get to know kids and their families and figure who the best fit for the team and the university is. |
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