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Post by ay2013 on Nov 24, 2019 17:23:02 GMT -5
Maybe not yet. I think Washington could still sneak in there if Wisconsin loses to Penn State. Anything is the possible. But, since the initial reveal (below), what has Washington done (as far as Top 10 wins)? Just one win against Top 20 Utah. Wisconsin added wins over Minnesota and Nebraska, but lost to Ohio State; I'd have to say that's better than Washington. Washington not playing Stanford a second time didn't give them much upside in their final 10 matches, IMO. Not sure how a loss at PSU would factor in, but we'll find out in a week.
1- Texas
2- Baylor
3- Wisconsin
4- Stanford
5- Pitt
6- Nebraska
7- Washington
8- Minnesota
9- Florida
10- Creighton
Your running with a faulty premise. And that premise is that the starting point is the early reveal. That is demonstrably false advertising the committee has said point blank that the reveal is based on the team sheets at that time. The team sheets look different now. Texas has fewer significant wins. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 17:24:22 GMT -5
Washington already had 2 wins over the committee's #3 team Wisconsin in the initial reveal. Three weeks later, they still have 2 wins over a Top 5 Wisconsin team. And Hawai'i beat Washington once, so what's the point? i think the point is that those wins are already factored in. Sure, their Opponent W/L improves with every win those other teams pile up, but does that lone do enough to change the positions? Outside the pure numbers, those quality wins for Washington were already taken into consideration at the earlier reveal. |
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Post by midnightblue on Nov 24, 2019 17:25:12 GMT -5
So much is possible with this bracket... selection next Sunday is going to be fun... or not.
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Post by txnut on Nov 24, 2019 17:27:07 GMT -5
Maybe not yet. I think Washington could still sneak in there if Wisconsin loses to Penn State. Anything is the possible. But, since the initial reveal (below), what has Washington done (as far as Top 10 wins)? Just one win against Top 20 Utah. Wisconsin added wins over Minnesota and Nebraska, but lost to Ohio State; I'd have to say that's better than Washington. Washington not playing Stanford a second time didn't give them much upside in their final 10 matches, IMO. Not sure how a loss at PSU would factor in, but we'll find out in a week.
1- Texas
2- Baylor
3- Wisconsin
4- Stanford
5- Pitt
6- Nebraska
7- Washington
8- Minnesota
9- Florida
10- Creighton
Yes but the committee was probably looking at current RPIs and we know how much they love RPI. Washington could see some upward movement if they finish 25-5 (Better than futures predicts). They would have a resume very similar to Wisconsin with clear head to head. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2019 17:28:27 GMT -5
The problem is I actually do the research unlike some of the committees who has given us reason to believe they often do this:  |
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Post by txnut on Nov 24, 2019 17:33:14 GMT -5
Your running with a faulty premise. And that premise is that the starting point is the early reveal. That is demonstrably false advertising the committee has said point blank that the reveal is based on the team sheets at that time. The team sheets look different now. Texas has fewer significant wins. But Texas also has fewer losses. Washington and Wisconsin both have a loss that is nowhere close to any loss that Texas has. So does a not so great loss counter an extra good win? |
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Post by horns1 on Nov 24, 2019 17:38:13 GMT -5
Anything is the possible. But, since the initial reveal (below), what has Washington done (as far as Top 10 wins)? Just one win against Top 20 Utah. Wisconsin added wins over Minnesota and Nebraska, but lost to Ohio State; I'd have to say that's better than Washington. Washington not playing Stanford a second time didn't give them much upside in their final 10 matches, IMO. Not sure how a loss at PSU would factor in, but we'll find out in a week.
1- Texas
2- Baylor
3- Wisconsin
4- Stanford
5- Pitt
6- Nebraska
7- Washington
8- Minnesota
9- Florida
10- Creighton
Your running with a faulty premise. And that premise is that the starting point is the early reveal. That is demonstrably false advertising the committee has said point blank that the reveal is based on the team sheets at that time. The team sheets look different now. Texas has fewer significant wins. Washington will have done nothing to improve its resume' over its final 10 matches and vault it above the #7 national seed other than having beaten Top 20 Utah . Nebraska has added a win over Minnesota, and even Kentucky has added a win over Florida. I'm pretty confident Washington won't vault over Nebraska, but just my opinion. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 24, 2019 17:39:36 GMT -5
Your running with a faulty premise. And that premise is that the starting point is the early reveal. That is demonstrably false advertising the committee has said point blank that the reveal is based on the team sheets at that time. The team sheets look different now. Texas has fewer significant wins. But Texas also has fewer losses. Washington and Wisconsin both have a loss that is nowhere close to any loss that Texas has. So does a not so great loss counter an extra good win? My comment has nothing to do with Wisconsin or Washington, but rather Texas’ resume at selection vs their resume a month ago. It’s not as impressive now compared to other seeds resume. That’s all the point I was making. |
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Post by scottatlga on Nov 24, 2019 17:46:37 GMT -5
Have a question about Georgia Tech. I understand their RPI is not great, but you have a team that, after some early season injuries and woes, has come on strong winning 11 of their last 12 with their only loss in 5 at #2 Pitt. They swept FSU in their only meeting, beat Notre Dame today, are 20-8 overall and sit in 2nd place in the ACC, ahead of NCAA darlings Louisville (by 1 game) FSU (by 2 games) and Notre Dame (by 2 games). They are currently a team that nobody wants to face. Doesn’t the NCAA committee give some credence to late season results and improvement? Georgia Tech just doesn't have anything to sell me that they could be in. They don't have anything in their profile to justify putting them in above RPI teams above them. The conference finish is irrelevant. Especially in conferences with unbalanced schedules. Just seems wrong that a team playing as well as GT would be shut out of the tournament. They deserve to be in. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2019 17:55:42 GMT -5
Georgia Tech just doesn't have anything to sell me that they could be in. They don't have anything in their profile to justify putting them in above RPI teams above them. The conference finish is irrelevant. Especially in conferences with unbalanced schedules. Just seems wrong that a team playing as well as GT would be shut out of the tournament. They deserve to be in. But this is about rewarding the entire season, not only looking at conference performance. I don't see *why* GT should be in. They're playing well as of late yes. But that's not good enough if you don't have a conference tournament. That means you have to perform in the non-conference. Also, unfortunate circumstances and injury happen to many many other teams, not just GT. Georgia Tech simply did not perform in the non-conference. They scheduled4 Top 100 teams - Oklahoma, Georgia, Arizona State, and Kennesaw State. GT lost all of those matches. Georgia Tech has 2 T50 wins -- Florida State and Notre Dame at home. No T25 wins. |
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Post by justahick on Nov 24, 2019 17:59:34 GMT -5
Georgia Tech just doesn't have anything to sell me that they could be in. They don't have anything in their profile to justify putting them in above RPI teams above them. The conference finish is irrelevant. Especially in conferences with unbalanced schedules. Just seems wrong that a team playing as well as GT would be shut out of the tournament. They deserve to be in. Nobody to blame but the coaches here...their non-conference home opponents were very poorly chosen. Only excuse is that maybe they didn't expect to be as good as they ended up being, but still - basically scheduled themselves so they had no chance at an at-large. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 24, 2019 18:01:04 GMT -5
So, now that Wisconsin has swept Nebraska a second time, that much ensures the Top 5 national seeds will consist of Baylor, Stanford, Texas, Wisconsin, and Pittsburgh. Maybe not yet. I think Washington could still sneak in there if Wisconsin loses to Penn State. Washington has three Top 4 wins. They crunched Stanford, with Plummer starting and playing all four sets. In their two wins over Wiscy, they won 6 of 7 sets. If they can close out at home next weekend over Cal and WSU, they'll be 9-1 in their last 10 matches. That said, it is a long shot. I don't see the Committee seeding both Stanford and Washington in the Top 4. |
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Post by Sbilo on Nov 24, 2019 18:10:11 GMT -5
So, now that Wisconsin has swept Nebraska a second time, that much ensures the Top 5 national seeds will consist of Baylor, Stanford, Texas, Wisconsin, and Pittsburgh. Maybe not yet. I think Washington could still sneak in there if Wisconsin loses to Penn State. There is absolutely no chance for Washington to be a top 4 seed. No chance. Like 0.1% or less. l |
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2019 18:18:02 GMT -5
Horizon Futures at the moment:
44. Northern Kentucky
45. Green Bay
46. Wright State
54. Milwaukee
Shouldn't matter - but this conference has some valuable drive-ins. Good luck trying to figure this one out... And with South Dakota at 41 and VCU 47. Is Cal and Washington State playing their way out? Pepperdine still outside the T50, but I think they get in. Is Illinois a sure thing - their wins are very light and an RPI that is clearly on the bubble.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2019 18:19:20 GMT -5
Maybe not yet. I think Washington could still sneak in there if Wisconsin loses to Penn State. There is absolutely no chance for Washington to be a top 4 seed. No chance. Like 0.1% or less. l I don't see why they shouldn't be in on the conversation, at 24-5, Top 6 RPI, 3-0 against 2 teams ahead of them (including two road wins) They also won on the road at Creighton in the nonconference - who is likely to be seeded. I obviously don't like Washington's chances -- but there is real reason to believe they could be in on a T4 seed. That's a way better idea than Kentucky. |
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