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Post by ay2013 on Jun 22, 2020 13:35:42 GMT -5
It's between USC, Texas and oregon. Really comes down to us and USC. If Jerrit and the staff keep pushing hard then we might just scoop her up. She is close to Losia so I think that also helps our chances of getting her to come to Texas. How is Oregon still on the list for the top recruits? why not? we should encourage our west close talent to continue to populate as many conference teams as possible AND poach from other regions.... it's how the Pac-12 stays relevant. One poor season does not a program make. Programs have their plusses and minuses and go through spells of unfortunate program drama. Texas surely isn't immune from that. Texas has recently had some toxic crap happen at their program too, doesn't mean recruits shouldn't go to UT Austin. |
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Post by horns1 on Jun 22, 2020 13:43:52 GMT -5
How is Oregon still on the list for the top recruits? why not? we should encourage our west close talent to continue to populate as many conference teams as possible AND poach from other regions.... it's how the Pac-12 stays relevant. One poor season does not a program make. Programs have their plusses and minuses and go through spells of unfortunate program drama. Texas surely isn't immune from that. Texas has recently had some toxic crap happen at their program too, doesn't mean recruits shouldn't go to UT Austin.
Don't come over onto this thread trying to smear Texas just because a Stanford fan took a jab at Oregon.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 22, 2020 13:49:07 GMT -5
why not? we should encourage our west close talent to continue to populate as many conference teams as possible AND poach from other regions.... it's how the Pac-12 stays relevant. One poor season does not a program make. Programs have their plusses and minuses and go through spells of unfortunate program drama. Texas surely isn't immune from that. Texas has recently had some toxic crap happen at their program too, doesn't mean recruits shouldn't go to UT Austin. Don't come over onto this thread trying to smear Texas just because a Stanford fan took a jab at Oregon.
I'm not smearing Texas - unlike you who just threw USC under the bus. The opposite, actually, I think that recruits should continue to want to go to UT Austin, despite past negative program stuff. But the same applies to a number of programs. |
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Post by horns1 on Jun 22, 2020 13:53:21 GMT -5
Don't come over onto this thread trying to smear Texas just because a Stanford fan took a jab at Oregon.
I'm not smearing Texas - unlike you who just threw USC under the bus. The opposite, actually, I think that recruits should continue to want to go to UT Austin, despite past negative program stuff. But the same applies to a number of programs.
Yeah, using harmful words like "toxic" clearly proves you want recruits to attend Texas when you basically stated a few minutes ago you'd rather have West kids commit to PAC 12 schools.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 22, 2020 14:15:53 GMT -5
My impression was that Faumuina was more likely to stay near home It's between USC, Texas and oregon. Really comes down to us and USC. If Jerrit and the staff keep pushing hard then we might just scoop her up. She is close to Losia so I think that also helps our chances of getting her to come to Texas. I think her family-oriented values may keep her close to home. I could be wrong |
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 22, 2020 14:49:28 GMT -5
2022 seems an odd year where three of the best recruits in the state are going to Baylor and UT is focused on all out-of-state recruits. I don't think that necessarily hurts UT, but it's strange they don't have the state's best players on lockdown, more so last year losing both Skinner and Rutherford who are both great (those two seem like scholarship allocation casualties).
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 22, 2020 15:16:56 GMT -5
2022 seems an odd year where three of the best recruits in the state are going to Baylor and UT is focused on all out-of-state recruits. I don't think that necessarily hurts UT, but it's strange they don't have the state's best players on lockdown, more so last year losing both Skinner and Rutherford who are both great (those two seem like scholarship allocation casualties). Well given that Skinner has a sister that also goes to Kentucky, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that she just didn't want to be a longhorn...it wouldn't be the first time siblings end up at the same school. Williams for sure had an earlier recruiting exposure over Rutherford so perhaps Texas landed exactly who they 1- thought they could get and 2- wanted for 2021. Re 2022, I think it's just kind of a down year for in state volleyball in general, in particular for the hitting talent. Texas had no use for a setter so even though the state will have a few stud setters in the 2022 senior aces, they probably weren't going to UT Austin. Sczech is probably the best pin prospect in Texas for 2022 so I suppose that's a bit of a loss. There are a number of volleyball players that do well for their age (Duckworth, Moore, Thompson, Keene, Dacosta) but I'm not sure they have the ceiling the level Texas is looking for. |
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Post by eotexas5 on Jun 22, 2020 15:18:38 GMT -5
2022 seems an odd year where three of the best recruits in the state are going to Baylor and UT is focused on all out-of-state recruits. I don't think that necessarily hurts UT, but it's strange they don't have the state's best players on lockdown, more so last year losing both Skinner and Rutherford who are both great (those two seem like scholarship allocation casualties). It's a bit different though, comparing Baylor and UT in this sense. I imagine this has to do with immediate playing time, which JE has already commented on. I think Baylor/Kentucky are in a position to offer the opportunity for immediate playing time, where that wasn't a given at UT. It's a bit upsetting that Texas wasn't able to lock down the state's best players, but I'm hopeful either one or two of them decide to transfer home (Iman/Jenna Weenas, hopefully!) |
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 22, 2020 15:21:24 GMT -5
2022 seems an odd year where three of the best recruits in the state are going to Baylor and UT is focused on all out-of-state recruits. I don't think that necessarily hurts UT, but it's strange they don't have the state's best players on lockdown, more so last year losing both Skinner and Rutherford who are both great (those two seem like scholarship allocation casualties). It's a bit different though, comparing Baylor and UT in this sense. I imagine this has to do with immediate playing time, which JE has already commented on. I think Baylor/Kentucky are in a position to offer the opportunity for immediate playing time, where that wasn't a given at UT. It's a bit upsetting that Texas wasn't able to lock down the state's best players, but I'm hopeful either one or two of them decide to transfer home (Iman/Jenna Weenas, hopefully!) Yes, the last two you mention plus Skinner were as elite as it gets. Big losses, but again, UT didn't do anything wrong, just hurts not to have them on the roster. |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jun 22, 2020 15:23:50 GMT -5
So with Cabello and potentially recruiting Swindle, does this mean we are recruiting Faumuina as an opposite/outside?
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 22, 2020 15:25:49 GMT -5
2022 seems an odd year where three of the best recruits in the state are going to Baylor and UT is focused on all out-of-state recruits. I don't think that necessarily hurts UT, but it's strange they don't have the state's best players on lockdown, more so last year losing both Skinner and Rutherford who are both great (those two seem like scholarship allocation casualties). It's a bit different though, comparing Baylor and UT in this sense. I imagine this has to do with immediate playing time, which JE has already commented on. I think Baylor/Kentucky are in a position to offer the opportunity for immediate playing time, where that wasn't a given at UT. It's a bit upsetting that Texas wasn't able to lock down the state's best players, but I'm hopeful either one or two of them decide to transfer home (Iman/Jenna Weenas, hopefully!) I put Wenaas back into the earlier recruiting discussion with Williams. I don't think it's reasonable to look at players during their 13's-15's and have the same questions as they are when they are 18's. They were after Madison Williams early, and she showed that she was a top prospect very early. The reality is that the state had A LOT of talent in the 2020 class. They had like 8 recruits in the top 25 nationally. You can't just knock on the UT Austin staff, they have limited number of scholarships. It would have been completely unreasonable for them to blow three 2020 scholarships on Williams, Ndiaye and Wenaas when they already had what was supposed to be Fields AND Eggleston in the 2019 class. At the end of the day Texas wound up with the top rated setter in the class, the top rated libero in the class, and a top 5 OH.... Like, seriously, take several seats please  We are all over here jealous of you. |
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Jun 22, 2020 16:43:27 GMT -5
How is Oregon still on the list for the top recruits? why not? we should encourage our west close talent to continue to populate as many conference teams as possible AND poach from other regions.... it's how the Pac-12 stays relevant. One poor season does not a program make. Programs have their plusses and minuses and go through spells of unfortunate program drama. Texas surely isn't immune from that. Texas has recently had some toxic crap happen at their program too, doesn't mean recruits shouldn't go to UT Austin. What "Toxic" stuff has Texas had in our program? Were you speaking about the Zelon situation? |
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Post by hornfanaustin on Jun 22, 2020 16:49:34 GMT -5
I follow Texas football recruiting closely, but the way football recruiting goes, there's heavy use of social media to tease out leans and levels of interest.
One thing I like and dislike about volleyball recruiting is the opaque nature of it. Figuring who Texas has an interest and a chance on is down to who "likes" or "follows" who.
People asked "How could Texas miss out [name an outstanding player]? They're in their own backyard!"
elan McCall - Cedar Park Madison Rigdon - Pflugerville
and so on.....
I think of what the former football coach Mack Brown said when he was looking at the USC players across the field before the national championship and said "Wow, look at those players". His offensive coordinator said to him, "Uhhh, coach. Turn around and look at your team. They're pretty good too you know"
Can't get everyone.
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Post by horns1 on Jun 22, 2020 17:27:17 GMT -5
why not? we should encourage our west close talent to continue to populate as many conference teams as possible AND poach from other regions.... it's how the Pac-12 stays relevant. One poor season does not a program make. Programs have their plusses and minuses and go through spells of unfortunate program drama. Texas surely isn't immune from that. Texas has recently had some toxic crap happen at their program too, doesn't mean recruits shouldn't go to UT Austin. What "Toxic" stuff has Texas had in our program? Were you speaking about the Zelon situation? Let's please not have that discussion in this thread as it is all gossip and simply he-said she-said stuff that is over 2 years in the past (boy does time fly).
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Post by horns1 on Jun 22, 2020 17:40:31 GMT -5
As Texas fans, we are very fortunate that our state is producing a lot of elite volleyball talent. We will never have enough scholarships to offer everyone, and we will never have everyone accept the scholarships we offer them. Sometimes that produces hurt feeling among recruits, families, clubs, high schools, and coaches, especially if we look out-of-state or internationally. I'm sure other schools encounter that to some degree.
As far as the in-state 2020 class, you had two very talented players in Jenna Wenaas and Iman Ndiaye who were verbally committed for quite a while to Texas A&M and Penn State, respectively. For whatever reason(s), they did an about-face and decommitted, and then verbally committed to Minnesota and UCLA, respectively. Personally, I'm glad our staff didn't have to deal with those rollercoaster recruitments as we might have been on the short end of the stick had either of them verbally committed to us initially. Wenaas comes from an Aggie family, IIRC, so we might never have been involved. Ndiaye seemed to want to head out of state from the get-go, and if she was set on playing Opposite, would only be one year behind Skylar Fields at Texas. Sometimes things do just work out for the best all the way around.
We keep reading on this board that Texas should pursue these 6-rotation pin hitters (which don't grow on trees) more often versus the super athletic front row spikers. Texas seems to get it done with Melanie Parra from Mexico, but we still have some posters lamenting the in-state front-row only pin-hitters who went elsewhere for 2020.
For 2022, I didn't think we'd be pursuing a setter. My ideal is to recruit a setter in alternating classes. But, attrition and other reasons don't allow for the ideal scenarios to play out consistently. So, it's up to our coaching staff to manage current and future rosters non-stop.
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We are all over here jealous of you.