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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 22:44:04 GMT -5
Do you think there’s a chance that Rothe changes her mind? the scenario I could *somewhat* imagine if florida having a bad year this year without Markova, kelley, Beason, etc. and Mary wise gets let go after so many runs and talented teams with nothing to like truly show for it. At that point, Rothe could easily reopen her recruiting process, and you’d have to think Texas would be high im pretty sure Florida is set on wise keeping her job until she retires |
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Post by hornfanaustin on May 15, 2023 22:52:56 GMT -5
Come 2025, we are likely to have Singletary as a redshirt junior. And, Bunton as a (redshirt) sophomore. Hopefully, both turn out to be bona fide starters worthy of All-American honors. We pursued 2024 MB Alec Rothe pretty hard before she ended up choosing Florida; we'll see if she signs with the Gators in November. It wouldn't surprise me if we add an experienced upperclassmen MB transfer for 2024. Will be tough bringing in an elite 2025 high school MB who will want to compete with Singletary and Bunton for 2-3 seasons. Do you think there’s a chance that Rothe changes her mind? With all Florida signees, doesn't everyone just wait 2 years for them to transfer? |
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Post by uofaGRAD on May 15, 2023 23:03:09 GMT -5
the scenario I could *somewhat* imagine if florida having a bad year this year without Markova, kelley, Beason, etc. and Mary wise gets let go after so many runs and talented teams with nothing to like truly show for it. At that point, Rothe could easily reopen her recruiting process, and you’d have to think Texas would be high im pretty sure Florida is set on wise keeping her job until she retires probably, but I still think that’s probably the only way texas could get rothe before she gets to Gainesville lol |
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Post by horns1 on May 15, 2023 23:13:40 GMT -5
Come 2025, we are likely to have Singletary as a redshirt junior. And, Bunton as a (redshirt) sophomore. Hopefully, both turn out to be bona fide starters worthy of All-American honors. We pursued 2024 MB Alec Rothe pretty hard before she ended up choosing Florida; we'll see if she signs with the Gators in November. It wouldn't surprise me if we add an experienced upperclassmen MB transfer for 2024. Will be tough bringing in an elite 2025 high school MB who will want to compete with Singletary and Bunton for 2-3 seasons. Do you think there’s a chance that Rothe changes her mind? Well, with Beason and Kelley transferring out, who knows what's going on in Gainesville. Even if she changes her mind about Florida before November's signing period, that doesn't mean Texas would be her choice. |
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Post by VBallLife on May 15, 2023 23:33:39 GMT -5
Do you think there’s a chance that Rothe changes her mind? Well, with Beason and Kelley transferring out, who knows what's going on in Gainesville. Even if she changes her mind about Florida before November's signing period, that doesn't mean Texas would be her choice. She wouldn’t want to wait to play. |
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Post by slxpress on May 15, 2023 23:50:18 GMT -5
Man, all the shots on Florida/Wise.
I hate to see the same kind of narrative used against her in a Texas thread that I've read so much regarding Elliott over the years. I'm not saying people don't have a point about her career, but it's pretty stellar regardless. It just feels like such a cheap shot when she's made 8 Final Fours and been the dame of women coaches in women's indoor volleyball for so long. I get that plenty of people don't see her as a particularly good coach, but many of those same people view Elliott in the same vein, when I think Elliott has been fabulous as a CEO during his tenure, and I would feel that way regardless of whether he won the whole shooting match last year.
You got to do something to attract all that talent in the first place.
There's always a chance players will change their mind, but Texas hasn't shown any issues with attracting talent. Something will come around, either out of high school or the portal. I don't mean to somehow short circuit the Alec Rothe conversation. What is a recruiting thread for, if not for speculation? And I appreciate horns1 on these threads a great deal.
With three middle blockers participating on the national team in Ogbogu, Butler, and O'Neal, I don't think Texas has to be too concerned about their bonafides regarding middle blockers. Of course, it's arguable how much of a difference Texas made with those three versus another program. That's some prodigious talent for sure. But it doesn't matter. Texas is still going to get credit when recruiting future middle blockers.
Heck, in some ways it's just nice for me we're actually going to be bringing in some players in this next class, lol.
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Post by notfromaroundhere on May 16, 2023 1:47:39 GMT -5
Texas told the top 2024 OH and MB that they were not recruiting their position this year but wanted to know if they wanted to remain on their list in case things changed. Not sure if Alec was just doing a visit or if they were reconsidering their stance. Totally get it with the depth Texas has until the 2025 class but with the potential of no scholarships available for 2024s, that would have deterred some of the big names. Cari could be a big in-state get.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on May 16, 2023 7:18:17 GMT -5
Texas told the top 2024 OH and MB that they were not recruiting their position this year but wanted to know if they wanted to remain on their list in case things changed. Not sure if Alec was just doing a visit or if they were reconsidering their stance. Totally get it with the depth Texas has until the 2025 class but with the potential of no scholarships available for 2024s, that would have deterred some of the big names. Cari could be a big in-state get. Didn't Rothe have an official visit? She was at a game sitting in the section usually reserved for program guests. We also had Choboy visit without an open scholarship, maybe JE was trying to make NIL + 3 work |
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Post by notfromaroundhere on May 16, 2023 11:26:37 GMT -5
Texas told the top 2024 OH and MB that they were not recruiting their position this year but wanted to know if they wanted to remain on their list in case things changed. Not sure if Alec was just doing a visit or if they were reconsidering their stance. Totally get it with the depth Texas has until the 2025 class but with the potential of no scholarships available for 2024s, that would have deterred some of the big names. Cari could be a big in-state get. Didn't Rothe have an official visit? She was at a game sitting in the section usually reserved for program guests. We also had Choboy visit without an open scholarship, maybe JE was trying to make NIL + 3 work Yep, that's why I thought they may have been reconsidering their stance but since still no MBs have committed and they let some of the best in the class from TX goes elsewhere, seems they decided to hold for the 2025 class. Crazy since 3 2024s made national teams this summer. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on May 16, 2023 11:47:24 GMT -5
Didn't Rothe have an official visit? She was at a game sitting in the section usually reserved for program guests. We also had Choboy visit without an open scholarship, maybe JE was trying to make NIL + 3 work Yep, that's why I thought they may have been reconsidering their stance but since still no MBs have committed and they let some of the best in the class from TX goes elsewhere, seems they decided to hold for the 2025 class. Crazy since 3 2024s made national teams this summer. I think it's a recognition that we will be redshirting 1/2/possibly 3 freshman this year and they will effectively become the 2024 class. It's one thing to fill up the pipeline, but there is such a thing as "too much talent" in the gym - long term that leads to transfers due to lack of playing time, and maybe needing to kick ppl off scholarships, which does not seem like a JE thing to do |
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Post by slxpress on May 16, 2023 13:31:50 GMT -5
Yep, that's why I thought they may have been reconsidering their stance but since still no MBs have committed and they let some of the best in the class from TX goes elsewhere, seems they decided to hold for the 2025 class. Crazy since 3 2024s made national teams this summer. I think it's a recognition that we will be redshirting 1/2/possibly 3 freshman this year and they will effectively become the 2024 class. It's one thing to fill up the pipeline, but there is such a thing as "too much talent" in the gym - long term that leads to transfers due to lack of playing time, and maybe needing to kick ppl off scholarships, which does not seem like a JE thing to do My honest view is that if Texas doesn’t have any more transfers over the next 5 to 10 years they’re doing something wrong. 12 scholarships are too few for volleyball. It should be 15 like it is for women’s basketball. But there are already issues with competitiveness at the top. Allowing the biggest programs to hoard even more talent wouldn’t help that at all. But the goal shouldn’t be to minimize transfers. It should be to construct the most competitive team possible. I’m not a fan of excessive ruthlessness, but I am a fan of being authentic and upfront with players about their future expected playing time. Some players are going to want to play more than they want to watch from the bench while being at a top program, and that’s understandable. I feel confident in saying someone is going to transfer out next year, the same way I said Parra was going to transfer out (and should transfer out) if she didn’t see extensive playing time this past year. That’s just how it works. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on May 16, 2023 13:34:05 GMT -5
I think it's a recognition that we will be redshirting 1/2/possibly 3 freshman this year and they will effectively become the 2025 class. It's one thing to fill up the pipeline, but there is such a thing as "too much talent" in the gym - long term that leads to transfers due to lack of playing time, and maybe needing to kick ppl off scholarships, which does not seem like a JE thing to do I’m sure you meant the 2024 class. Yes, thanks. Fixed |
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Post by hornfanaustin on May 16, 2023 13:53:11 GMT -5
I think it's a recognition that we will be redshirting 1/2/possibly 3 freshman this year and they will effectively become the 2024 class. It's one thing to fill up the pipeline, but there is such a thing as "too much talent" in the gym - long term that leads to transfers due to lack of playing time, and maybe needing to kick ppl off scholarships, which does not seem like a JE thing to do My honest view is that if Texas doesn’t have any more transfers over the next 5 to 10 years they’re doing something wrong. 12 scholarships are too few for volleyball. It should be 15 like it is for women’s basketball. But there are already issues with competitiveness at the top. Allowing the biggest programs to hoard even more talent wouldn’t help that at all. But the goal shouldn’t be to minimize transfers. It should be to construct the most competitive team possible. I’m not a fan of excessive ruthlessness, but I am a fan of being authentic and upfront with players about their future expected playing time. Some players are going to want to play more than they want to watch from the bench while being at a top program, and that’s understandable. I feel confident in saying someone is going to transfer out next year, the same way I said Parra was going to transfer out (and should transfer out) if she didn’t see extensive playing time this past year. That’s just how it works. If you're a fan of college softball, then you understand what a "machine" OU has become in attracting high performing transfers to their team.
It drives me crazy each year.
But then I thought, what if Texas in volleyball is/becomes the OU of softball? And this last year, that came to fruition.
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Post by eotexas5 on May 16, 2023 14:51:29 GMT -5
My honest view is that if Texas doesn’t have any more transfers over the next 5 to 10 years they’re doing something wrong. 12 scholarships are too few for volleyball. It should be 15 like it is for women’s basketball. But there are already issues with competitiveness at the top. Allowing the biggest programs to hoard even more talent wouldn’t help that at all. But the goal shouldn’t be to minimize transfers. It should be to construct the most competitive team possible. I’m not a fan of excessive ruthlessness, but I am a fan of being authentic and upfront with players about their future expected playing time. Some players are going to want to play more than they want to watch from the bench while being at a top program, and that’s understandable. I feel confident in saying someone is going to transfer out next year, the same way I said Parra was going to transfer out (and should transfer out) if she didn’t see extensive playing time this past year. That’s just how it works. If you're a fan of college softball, then you understand what a "machine" OU has become in attracting high performing transfers to their team.
It drives me crazy each year.
But then I thought, what if Texas in volleyball is/becomes the OU of softball? And this last year, that came to fruition.
I would very much not mind if we became the OU softball of college volleyball lol |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on May 16, 2023 14:56:36 GMT -5
My honest view is that if Texas doesn’t have any more transfers over the next 5 to 10 years they’re doing something wrong. 12 scholarships are too few for volleyball. It should be 15 like it is for women’s basketball. But there are already issues with competitiveness at the top. Allowing the biggest programs to hoard even more talent wouldn’t help that at all. But the goal shouldn’t be to minimize transfers. It should be to construct the most competitive team possible. I’m not a fan of excessive ruthlessness, but I am a fan of being authentic and upfront with players about their future expected playing time. Some players are going to want to play more than they want to watch from the bench while being at a top program, and that’s understandable. I feel confident in saying someone is going to transfer out next year, the same way I said Parra was going to transfer out (and should transfer out) if she didn’t see extensive playing time this past year. That’s just how it works. If you're a fan of college softball, then you understand what a "machine" OU has become in attracting high performing transfers to their team.
It drives me crazy each year.
But then I thought, what if Texas in volleyball is/becomes the OU of softball? And this last year, that came to fruition.
IMO 2022 was an aberration caused by the perfect storm of (i) COVID 5th year availability, (ii) non-control of COVID overseas dissuading graduate students from starting pro careers, and (iii) reinstatement of the 12 scholarship limit, forcing coaches to honor commitments made to incoming freshmen over retaining 5th years. Those factors resulted in a bunch of super-seniors in the transfer portal. It worked out for us (obviously) but it was just insane. I don't think we'll see it again, particularly with the new rules limiting undergrad transfers and portal windows, etc. |
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