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Post by katn on Jun 9, 2023 17:51:55 GMT -5
who has access to prepdig.com? they just released the class 2025 rankings here are only the top 5 http://instagram.com/p/CtR4hwpApmi edit: curious about charlotte glass on the rankings |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jun 9, 2023 17:59:11 GMT -5
who has access to prepdig.com? they just released the class 2025 rankings here are only the top 5 http://instagram.com/p/CtR4hwpApmi edit: curious about charlotte glass on the rankings |
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Post by rjaege on Jun 10, 2023 4:57:37 GMT -5
I don't agree regarding Nebraska. Nicklin Hames didn't regress. She suffered an injury. She wasn't all world as a setter, but she was certainly all world as a defender who also set. Kennedi Orr didn't come back from her ACL completely right. Don't know what all that entailed, but she just wasn't who she was prior to her knee injury and rehab. So Nebraska is done as a program after one Sweet 16 finish where they were literally one match point away from moving on but didn't convert and then found themselves in a horrible rotation, lost the set, and then lost the 5th set? That's stupid. They literally led the country in consecutive Elite Eight finishes prior to last year, and made it to the championship match in one of the great matches of all time against Wisconsin before bowing out. Including knocking off Texas in Austin in a pretty clear way. In addition, regardless of their lack of being terminal, they still are the premier program to attend if you want to make it to the national team. They historically have done as good a job of training 6 rotation pins as anyone else in the country. For many of the elite players, that's way more important than leading the nation in hitting percentage. They're on what almost amounts to an unprecedented recruiting roll right now with high school players. The last two classes have been unreal. I don't know how long they can keep it going, but I'm not betting against them. That said, I personally have a different opinion of John Cook after his comments on Akana and Caffey. Not that he's going to lose any sleep over what I think of him. But I feel like he's a ruthless @ss willing to throw his players under the bus in a public manner if it suits the image he's trying to project. Better to say nothing at all than some of the BS that's been uttered out of his mouth with those two. But this idea Nebraska is some kind of dead end for setters or pins is silly. That said, that's a LOT of talent to compete with in the two previous classes. For many players, that's a feature, not a bug. It will be important for Nebraska to find those players. In the meantime, it's not like UT's depth chart is wide open. To me, in terms of recruiting, Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas are on a different level than everyone else. Stanford has their academic requirements, but outside of that, they're really hard (not impossible!) to beat on the recruiting trail for the players who can meet that hurdle. After that, Nebraska and Texas just seem to really have it going on. Not that other teams can't beat those two for players, but by and large the Cornhuskers and Longhorns seem to get their pick more than anyone else. I just know I don't agree with anyone who wants to suggest that somehow Texas is now a clear cut choice over Nebraska simply because of one season. Which was a really good year by just about anyone else's standard. I know this. There's no where else that's going to give players the kind of fan support Nebraska does. What they're doing this year with the football stadium boggles my mind. With respect to recruiting powerhouses, you left out WI, especially after their incoming transfers this year. And probably a few other schools, I don't follow recruiting that closely. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 10, 2023 8:01:21 GMT -5
I don't agree regarding Nebraska. Nicklin Hames didn't regress. She suffered an injury. She wasn't all world as a setter, but she was certainly all world as a defender who also set. Kennedi Orr didn't come back from her ACL completely right. Don't know what all that entailed, but she just wasn't who she was prior to her knee injury and rehab. So Nebraska is done as a program after one Sweet 16 finish where they were literally one match point away from moving on but didn't convert and then found themselves in a horrible rotation, lost the set, and then lost the 5th set? That's stupid. They literally led the country in consecutive Elite Eight finishes prior to last year, and made it to the championship match in one of the great matches of all time against Wisconsin before bowing out. Including knocking off Texas in Austin in a pretty clear way. In addition, regardless of their lack of being terminal, they still are the premier program to attend if you want to make it to the national team. They historically have done as good a job of training 6 rotation pins as anyone else in the country. For many of the elite players, that's way more important than leading the nation in hitting percentage. They're on what almost amounts to an unprecedented recruiting roll right now with high school players. The last two classes have been unreal. I don't know how long they can keep it going, but I'm not betting against them. That said, I personally have a different opinion of John Cook after his comments on Akana and Caffey. Not that he's going to lose any sleep over what I think of him. But I feel like he's a ruthless @ss willing to throw his players under the bus in a public manner if it suits the image he's trying to project. Better to say nothing at all than some of the BS that's been uttered out of his mouth with those two. But this idea Nebraska is some kind of dead end for setters or pins is silly. That said, that's a LOT of talent to compete with in the two previous classes. For many players, that's a feature, not a bug. It will be important for Nebraska to find those players. In the meantime, it's not like UT's depth chart is wide open. To me, in terms of recruiting, Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas are on a different level than everyone else. Stanford has their academic requirements, but outside of that, they're really hard (not impossible!) to beat on the recruiting trail for the players who can meet that hurdle. After that, Nebraska and Texas just seem to really have it going on. Not that other teams can't beat those two for players, but by and large the Cornhuskers and Longhorns seem to get their pick more than anyone else. I just know I don't agree with anyone who wants to suggest that somehow Texas is now a clear cut choice over Nebraska simply because of one season. Which was a really good year by just about anyone else's standard. I know this. There's no where else that's going to give players the kind of fan support Nebraska does. What they're doing this year with the football stadium boggles my mind. With respect to recruiting powerhouses, you left out WI, especially after their incoming transfers this year. And probably a few other schools, I don't follow recruiting that closely. I don't think of Wisconsin at the same recruiting level of Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas, although they're probably #1 on whatever the next level is. But that's just my opinion. Also, things change. Penn State was on that list at one point. Maybe they get there again, especially if this last transfer offseason was any indication. Maybe I'd put Wisconsin on that list next year. Right now, though, I think of those three as being in a different class. Oh, and of those 3, I'd put Texas third. If someone qualifies for Stanford, they're really tough to beat. All other things being equal - proximity, playing time, prior affiliation to the program (parents, family, close friends, etc.) - I'd favor Nebraska in a recruiting battle over Texas, although it's not cut and dried and Texas will win their share. But against anyone else, it's tough uphill sledding to go against Elliott and UT in volleyball recruiting. But these are thought exercises based on one person's opinion, not cold hard facts. Someone else is certainly entitled to a different perspective. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jun 10, 2023 14:58:52 GMT -5
Anyone got any insider info about how the elite camp went 👀? my DMs are open!
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Post by slxpress on Jun 10, 2023 16:05:44 GMT -5
Anyone got any insider info about how the elite camp went 👀? my DMs are open! I hope you get some juicy DMs. |
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Post by skyspy on Jun 11, 2023 16:59:26 GMT -5
With respect to recruiting powerhouses, you left out WI, especially after their incoming transfers this year. And probably a few other schools, I don't follow recruiting that closely. I don't think of Wisconsin at the same recruiting level of Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas, although they're probably #1 on whatever the next level is. But that's just my opinion. Also, things change. Penn State was on that list at one point. Maybe they get there again, especially if this last transfer offseason was any indication. Maybe I'd put Wisconsin on that list next year. Right now, though, I think of those three as being in a different class. Oh, and of those 3, I'd put Texas third. If someone qualifies for Stanford, they're really tough to beat. All other things being equal - proximity, playing time, prior affiliation to the program (parents, family, close friends, etc.) - I'd favor Nebraska in a recruiting battle over Texas, although it's not cut and dried and Texas will win their share. But against anyone else, it's tough uphill sledding to go against Elliott and UT in volleyball recruiting. But these are thought exercises based on one person's opinion, not cold hard facts. Someone else is certainly entitled to a different perspective. The Badgers are in on some high level prospects in the 2025 class. I'm surprised no one included them in a top destination school. Their Badger Camp was loaded with a similar collection of 2025s as the recent UT camp. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Jun 13, 2023 8:58:09 GMT -5
Patiently waiting when '25s make their first commitments.
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Post by horns1 on Jun 13, 2023 10:44:25 GMT -5
Patiently waiting when '25s make their first commitments. What is the first allowable date? This month? |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jun 13, 2023 11:08:21 GMT -5
Patiently waiting when '25s make their first commitments. What is the first allowable date? This month? I thought it was the 15th? As in, 2 days from now. But I might be wrong |
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Post by katn on Jun 13, 2023 11:23:10 GMT -5
🤞cari spears🤘🐮
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Post by haterade on Jun 13, 2023 12:04:39 GMT -5
What is the first allowable date? This month? I thought it was the 15th? As in, 2 days from now. But I might be wrong Basically yes. The 15th is when coaches can begin direct contact with 2025s and therefore formally offer them a scholarship. That would make a commitment possible. Prior, it’s all implied and alluded to via club coaches. Can’t really accept an offer that can’t be made prior to that date. Unless you want to just blatantly admit to violating what little rules are left. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jun 13, 2023 14:11:08 GMT -5
I thought it was the 15th? As in, 2 days from now. But I might be wrong Basically yes. The 15th is when coaches can begin direct contact with 2025s and therefore formally offer them a scholarship. That would make a commitment possible. Prior, it’s all implied and alluded to via club coaches. Can’t really accept an offer that can’t be made prior to that date. Unless you want to just blatantly admit to violating what little rules are left. Theoretically someone (not it!) could go through the 2024 recruiting thread and see how soon after June 15 the first commitment was made. I have the impression there were some same-day ones last year. |
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Post by Slay055 on Jun 13, 2023 14:28:01 GMT -5
Basically yes. The 15th is when coaches can begin direct contact with 2025s and therefore formally offer them a scholarship. That would make a commitment possible. Prior, it’s all implied and alluded to via club coaches. Can’t really accept an offer that can’t be made prior to that date. Unless you want to just blatantly admit to violating what little rules are left. Theoretically someone (not it!) could go through the 2024 recruiting thread and see how soon after June 15 the first commitment was made. I have the impression there were some same-day ones last year. The first public announcement that VT found was June 17, Devers to Kansas...then some rumors of Pierce and Ames to Nebraska and Stark to Penn State until the next official IG post found on June 19: volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/81278/top-2024-talent?page=28 |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jun 13, 2023 15:00:20 GMT -5
Theoretically someone (not it!) could go through the 2024 recruiting thread and see how soon after June 15 the first commitment was made. I have the impression there were some same-day ones last year. The first public announcement that VT found was June 17, Devers to Kansas...then some rumors of Pierce and Ames to Nebraska and Stark to Penn State until the next official IG post found on June 19: volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/81278/top-2024-talent?page=28Bless you |
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