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Post by ay2013 on Oct 2, 2023 1:57:46 GMT -5
I agree with sixpress, Wisconsin and UT-Austin are in the same academic tier. These days, other than Cal, I don't think there is much difference in academic reputation for a number of the big flagship state schools in the wealthier states, ESPECIALLY when it comes to undergrad - including UCLA and Michigan (who used to be in a tier above the other big state schools. If anything, I think the assumption that Wisconsin isn't on par with UT-Austin academically is probably because of your regional bias. Well, and hookem24 is emotionally invested in the argument. It’s persinally important to him, otherwise why take such a strong exception to what was really a pretty innocuous position on my part that the relative academics of Texas and Wisconsin would not be a factor in Spear’s recruitment? It’s extremely important to him that Texas be acknowledged as clearly superior than Wisconsin in this regard in ways it’s unimportant to me. Well, I think it would logically follow that if Texas actually WAS superior academically to Wisconsin (and Spears thought so), and academics was a factor in her overall decision, that she'd have made her commitment (to Texas) by now. |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 2, 2023 2:02:43 GMT -5
Well, and hookem24 is emotionally invested in the argument. It’s persinally important to him, otherwise why take such a strong exception to what was really a pretty innocuous position on my part that the relative academics of Texas and Wisconsin would not be a factor in Spear’s recruitment? It’s extremely important to him that Texas be acknowledged as clearly superior than Wisconsin in this regard in ways it’s unimportant to me. Well, I think it would logically follow that if Texas actually WAS superior academically to Wisconsin (and Spears thought so), and academics was a factor in her overall decision, that she'd have made her commitment (to Texas) by now. I just don’t think hookem24 cares as much about whether it’s a factor in Spears’ recruitment as much as he took umbrage that anyone would dare to suggest the two schools were on par with each other academically. He took it as a personal insult. |
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Post by Sbilo on Oct 2, 2023 4:00:05 GMT -5
Scroll to second photo; proof she was in Austin and not at Stanford https://www.instagram.com/p/Cx3imNMuztQ Harvey to UT would make a lot of sense. Top program, early playing time and going in to an increasingly strong conference. Her and VanderWal would make a tough combo. Early playing time? Singletary is a RS freshman, Bunton a freshman. Both top MB recruits in their own respective classes. Both will be at Texas at least until 2026 - unless what you are saying is a freshman Harvey will better than both by 2025 (which is difficult to gauge at this point). Nebraska will have Allick, Mendelson, Jackson and Ames atleast until 2025/2026. Again, in terms of playing time - Harvey will have to be super good as a freshman to beat Jackson, Ames, let alone Allick and Mendelson. |
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Post by volley642 on Oct 2, 2023 7:57:28 GMT -5
So don’t go into the trenches. I’ve looked it up in the past. Again, in the context of this discussion, I feel fine with what I said. You do not. I don’t feel compelled to do research as to why you’re right. I don’t even understand that conceit. You’ve just made up your own tiers, based on the Niche and USNWR rankings. Is someone else utilizing these tiers? Who else is actually saying Texas is a tier 1 public university and Wisconsin is a tier 2 university? Anyone? Top 10 and Top 20 is a very commonly used tier system. Just like T14 for law schools. Thanks! Lol no one uses top 10 vs top 20 public schools as a distinction unless you're a high school student in the college subreddit page. The only tiers that have any weight in 2023 are the ones that employers might still use for filtering out candidates - careers like quant, biglaw and some areas of business (consulting, ib). Even then, the main benefit of these elite institutions are the network you naturally acquire and the assumption that you are qualified which moves you past the resume review. In the context of the majority of students, but especially a student-athlete, the difference in academic prestige between Ut-Austin and Wisconsin is p much nonexistent. |
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Post by hookem24 on Oct 2, 2023 9:38:56 GMT -5
Top 10 and Top 20 is a very commonly used tier system. Just like T14 for law schools. Thanks! Lol no one uses top 10 vs top 20 public schools as a distinction unless you're a high school student in the college subreddit page. The only tiers that have any weight in 2023 are the ones that employers might still use for filtering out candidates - careers like quant, biglaw and some areas of business (consulting, ib). Even then, the main benefit of these elite institutions are the network you naturally acquire and the assumption that you are qualified which moves you past the resume review. In the context of the majority of students, but especially a student-athlete, the difference in academic prestige between Ut-Austin and Wisconsin is p much nonexistent. If you’re talking about employers using tiers to filter out candidates then you’d love to know that UT Austin is a target school for IB at all of the bulge bracket banks (UW-Madison is not), a target for consulting at the Big 4 and BBM (Bain, BCG, McKinsey,) one of the biggest pipelines for accounting at the Big 4 (#1 Accounting program in the world,) and way closer to a target for Big Law than Wisco. In the context of student athletes I’d agree, but in the context of students applying to these schools (especially coming from out of state), there’s a huge distinction. This is also coming from someone who has a sibling and a significant other that went to UW-Madison — I know the differences quite well. |
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Post by volley642 on Oct 2, 2023 10:10:02 GMT -5
Lol no one uses top 10 vs top 20 public schools as a distinction unless you're a high school student in the college subreddit page. The only tiers that have any weight in 2023 are the ones that employers might still use for filtering out candidates - careers like quant, biglaw and some areas of business (consulting, ib). Even then, the main benefit of these elite institutions are the network you naturally acquire and the assumption that you are qualified which moves you past the resume review. In the context of the majority of students, but especially a student-athlete, the difference in academic prestige between Ut-Austin and Wisconsin is p much nonexistent. If you’re talking about employers using tiers to filter out candidates then you’d love to know that UT Austin is a target school for IB at all of the bulge bracket banks (UW-Madison is not), a target for consulting at the Big 4 and BBM (Bain, BCG, McKinsey,) one of the biggest pipelines for accounting at the Big 4 (#1 Accounting program in the world,) and way closer to a target for Big Law than Wisco. In the context of student athletes I’d agree, but in the context of students applying to these schools (especially coming from out of state), there’s a huge distinction. This is also coming from someone who has a sibling and a significant other that went to UW-Madison — I know the differences quite well. Knowing two people does not mean you know the differences well. Also your statistics are regional. I'm sure Texas's business school benefits when Mckinsey has four locations in Texas, but if these bbs or consulting firms wanted to open locations in Madison, I'm sure UW's business school would do similarly well there. UT is regarded highly in Texas similarly to UW being a highly regarded school in Wisconsin. If you're considering these white collar jobs in the location where most finance kids wants to be in (NYC not Houston or Dallas), then UT is not a target school. Nationally speaking I stand by the fact that the distinction is erased. Anyone outside the two states, with no ties looking at two similar resumes are NOT choosing the longhorn just because of their school which is, IMO, where tiers are formed. |
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Post by babybacksets on Oct 2, 2023 10:12:41 GMT -5
We love an academic d**k measuring contest!
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Post by horns1 on Oct 2, 2023 10:25:00 GMT -5
I just want Spears to commit to Texas this month! The rest of you with your insignificant arguments can KMA!  |
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Post by bballin on Oct 2, 2023 11:29:36 GMT -5
No offense to some of the groupies, but texas already has the top OH in this class. Vanderwall......
....and Sigler would come in at #2.
I mean, come on... the biggest fights are already over....
So, just a heads up here, but Spears will either go to Texas or USC.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 2, 2023 11:31:50 GMT -5
No offense to some of the groupies, but texas already has the top OH in this class. Vanderwall...... ....and Sigler would come in at #2. yes, but why settle for 1/3 when you can have 2/3 |
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Post by hookem24 on Oct 2, 2023 11:33:58 GMT -5
If you’re talking about employers using tiers to filter out candidates then you’d love to know that UT Austin is a target school for IB at all of the bulge bracket banks (UW-Madison is not), a target for consulting at the Big 4 and BBM (Bain, BCG, McKinsey,) one of the biggest pipelines for accounting at the Big 4 (#1 Accounting program in the world,) and way closer to a target for Big Law than Wisco. In the context of student athletes I’d agree, but in the context of students applying to these schools (especially coming from out of state), there’s a huge distinction. This is also coming from someone who has a sibling and a significant other that went to UW-Madison — I know the differences quite well. Knowing two people does not mean you know the differences well. Also your statistics are regional. I'm sure Texas's business school benefits when Mckinsey has four locations in Texas, but if these bbs or consulting firms wanted to open locations in Madison, I'm sure UW's business school would do similarly well there. UT is regarded highly in Texas similarly to UW being a highly regarded school in Wisconsin. If you're considering these white collar jobs in the location where most finance kids wants to be in (NYC not Houston or Dallas), then UT is not a target school. Nationally speaking I stand by the fact that the distinction is erased. Anyone outside the two states, with no ties looking at two similar resumes are NOT choosing the longhorn just because of their school which is, IMO, where tiers are formed. Unfortunate when people aren't informed on topics they make claims about. www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools Check this out and revisit your claims! The recruiters I talked to while interning in NYC for Goldman Sachs called UT Austin their golden IB target. You are so wrong about regionality. Yes, McCombs has lots of grads work in consulting/IB in Dallas and Houston, but we are also a top 5-10 (based on metrics) pipeline school into NYC/Boston/Chicago consulting and banking. ![]() |
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Post by bballin on Oct 2, 2023 11:34:28 GMT -5
No offense to some of the groupies, but texas already has the top OH in this class. Vanderwall...... ....and Sigler would come in at #2. yes, but why settle for 1/3 when you can have 2/3 Agree. I want spears at texas too.... but you already got your 5 star OH |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 2, 2023 11:36:28 GMT -5
yes, but why settle for 1/3 when you can have 2/3 Agree. I want spears at texas too.... but you already got your 5 star OH I'm in John Cook hoover mode. I want them all |
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Post by bballin on Oct 2, 2023 11:38:46 GMT -5
Spears boyfriend is a USC coach... so, that makes things different too..
..young love might be deadly for UT.
...usc really knows how to recruit these days.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 2, 2023 11:41:47 GMT -5
Spears boyfriend is a USC coach... so, that makes things different too.. ..young love might be deadly for UT. ...usc really knows how to recruit these days. Isn't she like 16? Yeeesh. |
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