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Post by azvolleydad on Dec 30, 2019 19:04:00 GMT -5
I view transfers differently depending on whether it's a player that's leaving because she doesn't get a lot of playing time, or a starter / regular contributor. Your probably right to do so. However, its quite often not known why a player is leaving - even a contributor can just be looking for a different experience. Of course. But my point is more that the former (transferring for more playing time) wouldn't seem to reflect bad tidings for a program as much as the latter (leaving for other reasons).
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Post by azvolleydad on Dec 30, 2019 19:06:04 GMT -5
Josi Borum (setter) is transferring from Chicago State to Youngstown State. Source.
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Post by friendlybanter on Dec 30, 2019 20:08:41 GMT -5
For Kansas, Ennis (A&M) and Hickman (Northern Colorado) has transferred. Christon and Carrier are both not on the roster anymore. This also comes with the graduation of Nelson, Smith, and Hill. The only returning starters for next year will be Sara Nielsen (Setter) and Rachel Langs (Middle).
The biggest surprise for me is the transfer of Christon because she started to play well towards the end of the season and was probably gonna get a chance to play 6 rotation OH maybe as soon as next season. With Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier they all was battling for the Right Side spot. Hickman started with the spot, then Carrier made some spot starts, and then it ended with Ennis finishing the season.
Interesting to see how will Kansas continue to adjust after losing Coach Bird to Texas A&M. Ennis (who’s from Texas) has already transferred to A&M. Christon is also from Texas so if she ends up there don’t be surprised.
For Kansas replacing 7 players will be very hard. Kansas biggest problem last year was passing, and they lose their Libero and 6 rotation player in Ennis. Suter, Angello, and Farris all return as DS’s but they all struggled last year.
The one bright spot for Kansas is at the middle spot. Langs and incoming freshman Crawford should be an excellent pairing in the middle. Incoming freshman Schmidt is a good piece for the pins.
Next year Kansas will have to answer the same questions as they had to coming into this year. 1.) Can they find a 6 rotation Outside Hitter? 2.) Who will play Right Side (ever since Payne left it’s been a revolving door)? 3.) Will serve receive and passing be better?
Interesting to see who they will pick up in the transfer portal.
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Post by curiouskg on Dec 30, 2019 20:14:07 GMT -5
For Kansas, Ennis (A&M) and Hickman (Northern Colorado) has transferred. Christon and Carrier are both not on the roster anymore. This also comes with the graduation of Nelson, Smith, and Hill. The only returning starters for next year will be Sara Nielsen (Setter) and Rachel Langs (Middle). The biggest surprise for me is the transfer of Christon because she started to play well towards the end of the season and was probably gonna get a chance to play 6 rotation OH maybe as soon as next season. With Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier they all was battling for the Right Side spot. Hickman started with the spot, then Carrier made some spot starts, and then it ended with Ennis finishing the season. Interesting to see how will Kansas continue to adjust after losing Coach Bird to Texas A&M. Ennis (who’s from Texas) has already transferred to A&M. Christon is also from Texas so if she ends up there don’t be surprised. For Kansas replacing 7 players will be very hard. Kansas biggest problem last year was passing, and they lose their Libero and 6 rotation player in Ennis. Suter, Angello, and Farris all return as DS’s but they all struggled last year. The one bright spot for Kansas is at the middle spot. Langs and incoming freshman Crawford should be an excellent pairing in the middle. Incoming freshman Schmidt is a good piece for the pins. Next year Kansas will have to answer the same questions as they had to coming into this year. 1.) Can they find a 6 rotation Outside Hitter? 2.) Who will play Right Side (ever since Payne left it’s been a revolving door)? 3.) Will serve receive and passing be better? Interesting to see who they will pick up in the transfer portal. I think Kansas is getting a recruit from Minnesota at libero. She set the state record for aces - so perhaps that will help with the passing consistency. Although - with a coaching change, I wonder what the recruits will end up doing.
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Post by Kingsley on Dec 30, 2019 20:24:04 GMT -5
For Kansas, Ennis (A&M) and Hickman (Northern Colorado) has transferred. Christon and Carrier are both not on the roster anymore. This also comes with the graduation of Nelson, Smith, and Hill. The only returning starters for next year will be Sara Nielsen (Setter) and Rachel Langs (Middle). The biggest surprise for me is the transfer of Christon because she started to play well towards the end of the season and was probably gonna get a chance to play 6 rotation OH maybe as soon as next season. With Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier they all was battling for the Right Side spot. Hickman started with the spot, then Carrier made some spot starts, and then it ended with Ennis finishing the season. Interesting to see how will Kansas continue to adjust after losing Coach Bird to Texas A&M. Ennis (who’s from Texas) has already transferred to A&M. Christon is also from Texas so if she ends up there don’t be surprised. For Kansas replacing 7 players will be very hard. Kansas biggest problem last year was passing, and they lose their Libero and 6 rotation player in Ennis. Suter, Angello, and Farris all return as DS’s but they all struggled last year. The one bright spot for Kansas is at the middle spot. Langs and incoming freshman Crawford should be an excellent pairing in the middle. Incoming freshman Schmidt is a good piece for the pins. Next year Kansas will have to answer the same questions as they had to coming into this year. 1.) Can they find a 6 rotation Outside Hitter? 2.) Who will play Right Side (ever since Payne left it’s been a revolving door)? 3.) Will serve receive and passing be better? Interesting to see who they will pick up in the transfer portal. I think Kansas is getting a recruit from Minnesota at libero. She set the state record for aces - so perhaps that will help with the passing consistency. Although - with a coaching change, I wonder what the recruits will end up doing. Molly Shultz from Rockford, Minnesota. Bird left Kansas for Texas A&M a couple of years ago, so it doesn't really affect current recruits coming into Kansas very much. It has obviously affected current and former Jayhawks who were recruited by Kuhn, though.
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Post by nakedcrayon on Dec 30, 2019 21:10:49 GMT -5
samantha sanders from TAMU to Texas Tech
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Post by 808empath on Dec 30, 2019 23:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by horns1 on Dec 31, 2019 0:49:30 GMT -5
On page 1 of this thread - follow the link and check the list. It was 3 for Kansas - anyway. I just meant that when more than one transfer happens from a school alarms do not need to sound. Its happen many times. I view transfers differently depending on whether it's a player that's leaving because she doesn't get a lot of playing time, or a starter / regular contributor. For sure. And, if they are scholarship players or walk-on players.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 31, 2019 0:53:20 GMT -5
For Kansas, Ennis (A&M) and Hickman (Northern Colorado) has transferred. Christon and Carrier are both not on the roster anymore. This also comes with the graduation of Nelson, Smith, and Hill. The only returning starters for next year will be Sara Nielsen (Setter) and Rachel Langs (Middle). The biggest surprise for me is the transfer of Christon because she started to play well towards the end of the season and was probably gonna get a chance to play 6 rotation OH maybe as soon as next season. With Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier they all was battling for the Right Side spot. Hickman started with the spot, then Carrier made some spot starts, and then it ended with Ennis finishing the season. Interesting to see how will Kansas continue to adjust after losing Coach Bird to Texas A&M. Ennis (who’s from Texas) has already transferred to A&M. Christon is also from Texas so if she ends up there don’t be surprised. For Kansas replacing 7 players will be very hard. Kansas biggest problem last year was passing, and they lose their Libero and 6 rotation player in Ennis. Suter, Angello, and Farris all return as DS’s but they all struggled last year. The one bright spot for Kansas is at the middle spot. Langs and incoming freshman Crawford should be an excellent pairing in the middle. Incoming freshman Schmidt is a good piece for the pins.
Next year Kansas will have to answer the same questions as they had to coming into this year. 1.) Can they find a 6 rotation Outside Hitter? 2.) Who will play Right Side (ever since Payne left it’s been a revolving door)? 3.) Will serve receive and passing be better? Interesting to see who they will pick up in the transfer portal. Assuming Langs stays. When a lot of players leave a program, it does make the other (remaining) players question their own future at said program. Throw in that Jada Burse transferred out of KU and to ASU for the 2019 season. Lots of exits over the last few years.
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Post by volleynerdmw on Dec 31, 2019 9:44:49 GMT -5
For Kansas, Ennis (A&M) and Hickman (Northern Colorado) has transferred. Christon and Carrier are both not on the roster anymore. This also comes with the graduation of Nelson, Smith, and Hill. The only returning starters for next year will be Sara Nielsen (Setter) and Rachel Langs (Middle). The biggest surprise for me is the transfer of Christon because she started to play well towards the end of the season and was probably gonna get a chance to play 6 rotation OH maybe as soon as next season. With Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier they all was battling for the Right Side spot. Hickman started with the spot, then Carrier made some spot starts, and then it ended with Ennis finishing the season. Interesting to see how will Kansas continue to adjust after losing Coach Bird to Texas A&M. Ennis (who’s from Texas) has already transferred to A&M. Christon is also from Texas so if she ends up there don’t be surprised. For Kansas replacing 7 players will be very hard. Kansas biggest problem last year was passing, and they lose their Libero and 6 rotation player in Ennis. Suter, Angello, and Farris all return as DS’s but they all struggled last year. The one bright spot for Kansas is at the middle spot. Langs and incoming freshman Crawford should be an excellent pairing in the middle. Incoming freshman Schmidt is a good piece for the pins.
Next year Kansas will have to answer the same questions as they had to coming into this year. 1.) Can they find a 6 rotation Outside Hitter? 2.) Who will play Right Side (ever since Payne left it’s been a revolving door)? 3.) Will serve receive and passing be better? Interesting to see who they will pick up in the transfer portal. Assuming Langs stays. When a lot of players leave a program, it does make the other (remaining) players question their own future at said program. Throw in that Jada Burse transferred out of KU and to ASU for the 2019 season. Lots of exits over the last few years. Bechard has been there for a long time. But I see a trend of schools making a move in conjunction with a facility upgrade, which Kansas recently did. if they go sub .500 in 20 & 21 do they might make a move. Especially if starters keep moving on.
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Post by aird154 on Dec 31, 2019 10:13:52 GMT -5
For Kansas, Ennis (A&M) and Hickman (Northern Colorado) has transferred. Christon and Carrier are both not on the roster anymore. This also comes with the graduation of Nelson, Smith, and Hill. The only returning starters for next year will be Sara Nielsen (Setter) and Rachel Langs (Middle). The biggest surprise for me is the transfer of Christon because she started to play well towards the end of the season and was probably gonna get a chance to play 6 rotation OH maybe as soon as next season. With Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier they all was battling for the Right Side spot. Hickman started with the spot, then Carrier made some spot starts, and then it ended with Ennis finishing the season. Interesting to see how will Kansas continue to adjust after losing Coach Bird to Texas A&M. Ennis (who’s from Texas) has already transferred to A&M. Christon is also from Texas so if she ends up there don’t be surprised. For Kansas replacing 7 players will be very hard. Kansas biggest problem last year was passing, and they lose their Libero and 6 rotation player in Ennis. Suter, Angello, and Farris all return as DS’s but they all struggled last year. The one bright spot for Kansas is at the middle spot. Langs and incoming freshman Crawford should be an excellent pairing in the middle. Incoming freshman Schmidt is a good piece for the pins. Next year Kansas will have to answer the same questions as they had to coming into this year. 1.) Can they find a 6 rotation Outside Hitter? 2.) Who will play Right Side (ever since Payne left it’s been a revolving door)? 3.) Will serve receive and passing be better? Interesting to see who they will pick up in the transfer portal. I think Kansas is getting a recruit from Minnesota at libero. She set the state record for aces - so perhaps that will help with the passing consistency. Although - with a coaching change, I wonder what the recruits will end up doing.
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Post by aird154 on Dec 31, 2019 10:14:45 GMT -5
Kaiti Parks is the sleeper in the 2020 class for KU.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 31, 2019 10:43:55 GMT -5
Assuming Langs stays. When a lot of players leave a program, it does make the other (remaining) players question their own future at said program. Throw in that Jada Burse transferred out of KU and to ASU for the 2019 season. Lots of exits over the last few years. Bechard has been there for a long time. But I see a trend of schools making a move in conjunction with a facility upgrade, which Kansas recently did. if they go sub .500 in 20 & 21 do they make a move. Unlike at Ohio State, Kansas' decision to build that new facility was directly related to the Final Four and Big 12 Championship which Bechard and his staff accomplished. So, unfortunate for him that the program has regressed significantly from those peak seasons.
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Post by friendlybanter on Dec 31, 2019 11:21:55 GMT -5
I just think Laura Kuhn was a very big part of the Kansas program and when she left, the program had to go through changes. Bird’s last year at Kansas they went 22-8. The following year they went 15-12, and this past year they 9-17.
I think when Bird left Kansas, the connection with Texas and it’s recruiting went away. Which is why I am not surprised Christon and Ennis left. Billy Ebel has came in and has taken over the recruiting and he’s much more Kansas/Missouri recruiting. The majority of Kansas’ roster is now from Kansas.
Last year, Kansas had so many injuries which somewhat derailed their season. First Montero got hurt again, but Kansas rebounded and started Big12 play undefeated, even beating Texas and then the injury bug hit again.
This year, they expected to have Burse and Smith as senior leaders on the pins, and a solid returning group. Then Burse was removed from the team, which left the team search for a go to outside which they never found.
Christon leaving the team hurts cause she was a good contributor, but Ennis, Hickman, and Carrier all played At Right side (with Ennis being the most consistent).
I personally think if Kansas can find a 6 rotation OH/RS (which they haven’t had full time since Rigdon left), they will be fine. Kansas has some scholarship availablity so interesting to see who they can pick up. I just think changes to the program has set them back a little, but I still think Brechard is a good coach and Kansas will be back in the tournament eventually.
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Post by bluepenquin on Dec 31, 2019 11:52:19 GMT -5
Bechard has been there for a long time. But I see a trend of schools making a move in conjunction with a facility upgrade, which Kansas recently did. if they go sub .500 in 20 & 21 do they make a move. Unlike at Ohio State, Kansas' decision to build that new facility was directly related to the Final Four and Big 12 Championship which Bechard and his staff accomplished. So, unfortunate for him that the program has regressed significantly from those peak seasons. There are a ton of moving parts going on here. Leveraging a FF in 2015, an increase in the quality of players in the KC area, and putting in a new gym/arena. Kansas was/is trying to find a path to be among the top 15 VB programs in the country. The recruiting since 2018 and going forward has been outstanding - they are recruiting more senior aces (by X times) then ever before and as many as any program in the country. But the gap between the development of the new crop of players and the graduation of that 2014 class was going to leave this team in a 3-4 year period of transition that presented great risk. With this comes discontent. It is one thing to be a senior ace on the bench for winning team waiting for your time compared to a senior ace riding the bench on a losing team that may not be any good while you are still in school. These defections are not good for the program - and is most likely going to set them back. They need to be able to keep their increased talent content enough to stick around until the players mature and the team gets good - while still being an attractive destination for future commits. It is a narrow path - and right now it doesn't look good. Still time to recover, but there is real risk going on here.
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