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Post by tempesthorn on Nov 15, 2020 13:31:57 GMT -5
Since none of us know right now how and which criteria the committee will use to seed teams, we're all just speculating. The human polls might have more of an impact than ever before if RPI is deemed a useless metric. My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. Is anyone in the ACC still undefeated? I will be surprised if any of the B1G or PAC 12 schools go undefeated. Wisconsin, perhaps. In the SEC, Kentucky or Florida could go undefeated. Suffer a loss, and you give the committee a reason to lower your seed; remain undefeated, and the committee can't use a single loss against you. Pretty simple from a W/L perspective. Florida can't go undefeated. They lost to South Carolina.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 13:39:01 GMT -5
Since none of us know right now how and which criteria the committee will use to seed teams, we're all just speculating. The human polls might have more of an impact than ever before if RPI is deemed a useless metric. My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. Is anyone in the ACC still undefeated? I will be surprised if any of the B1G or PAC 12 schools go undefeated. Wisconsin, perhaps. In the SEC, Kentucky or Florida could go undefeated. Suffer a loss, and you give the committee a reason to lower your seed; remain undefeated, and the committee can't use a single loss against you. Pretty simple from a W/L perspective. If a 1 loss Nebraska team beats Wisconsin to win the B10 just before the tournament and Texas hasn't played a top 15 opponent in 4 months, do you think Texas would remain #1?
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Post by horns1 on Nov 15, 2020 13:50:00 GMT -5
Since none of us know right now how and which criteria the committee will use to seed teams, we're all just speculating. The human polls might have more of an impact than ever before if RPI is deemed a useless metric. My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. Is anyone in the ACC still undefeated? I will be surprised if any of the B1G or PAC 12 schools go undefeated. Wisconsin, perhaps. In the SEC, Kentucky or Florida could go undefeated. Suffer a loss, and you give the committee a reason to lower your seed; remain undefeated, and the committee can't use a single loss against you. Pretty simple from a W/L perspective. If a 1 loss Nebraska team beats Wisconsin to win the B10 just before the tournament and Texas hasn't played a top 15 opponent in 4 months, do you think Texas would remain #1? As always, being #1 in the poll doesn’t necessarily mean being the #1 national seed in the committee’s eyes. I have confidence an undefeated Texas team will be a top 4 national seed. Can’t speculate confidently on teams from conferences who have yet to play a single match.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Nov 15, 2020 13:55:38 GMT -5
My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. I say go radical, which the NCAA won't do.
1. Invite 96 teams to play 2. For the first round, winner is determined as best out of 3 sets 3. For the remaining 48 teams, then the traditional best out of 5
But of course, that would never fly with anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 13:57:25 GMT -5
If a 1 loss Nebraska team beats Wisconsin to win the B10 just before the tournament and Texas hasn't played a top 15 opponent in 4 months, do you think Texas would remain #1? As always, being #1 in the poll doesn’t necessarily mean being the #1 national seed in the committee’s eyes. I have confidence an undefeated Texas team will be a top 4 national seed. Can’t speculate confidently on teams from conferences who have yet to play a single match. OK no speculation. Any advantage Texas will gain from being undefeated in the fall would still have been relevant had they played half their schedule in the spring. But they wouldn't be negatively affected by any recency bias.
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 15, 2020 13:58:40 GMT -5
My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. I say go radical, which the NCAA won't do.
1. Invite 96 teams to play 2. For the first round, winner is determined as best out of 3 sets 3. For the remaining 48 teams, then the traditional best out of 5
But of course, that would never fly with anyone.
Until Texas loses the first two sets to Louisville again Lol just kidding!
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 15, 2020 14:50:41 GMT -5
As always, being #1 in the poll doesn’t necessarily mean being the #1 national seed in the committee’s eyes. I have confidence an undefeated Texas team will be a top 4 national seed. Can’t speculate confidently on teams from conferences who have yet to play a single match. OK no speculation. Any advantage Texas will gain from being undefeated in the fall would still have been relevant had they played half their schedule in the spring. But they wouldn't be negatively affected by any recency bias. No speculation either. We are 14-0 with only two matches against 1-7 TCU to have an undefeated conference season. Plus we've wrapped up the conference title. So the horse (undefeated conference season) is just about in the barn. So we've gone out and set a fairly high bar for other teams to meet or exceed. There are advantages to that. Beside I agree with the post above that the top 4 seeds will almost certainly come from conference champions. So I feel good that we've already put up a strong case for one of those spots. Another advantage is that other than the postponed matches against TCU, we've been able to play week after week with gives the coaches the ability to judge the progress of the team and players without a number of stops and starts. It remains to be seen if the all spring schools will have that continuity.
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 15, 2020 14:51:54 GMT -5
My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. I say go radical, which the NCAA won't do.
1. Invite 96 teams to play 2. For the first round, winner is determined as best out of 3 sets 3. For the remaining 48 teams, then the traditional best out of 5
But of course, that would never fly with anyone.
I feel certain that a reduction of costs is why they cut the tournament from 64 to 48 this year. No way would they add the cost of another 48 teams.
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Nov 15, 2020 14:53:10 GMT -5
While I would like to see Cabello play, I think we still have to be careful not to underestimate any of our opponents. Texas is always going to get 100% effort from the underdog trying to unseat #1. First Cabello must be healthy. I noticed against WV, she was in a game jersey, but wearing some type of leggings instead of normal game shorts. Not sure the significance of that. I kinda doubt Cabello will start a match, but I think we will get some playing time if 100%. Most likely it will be either come in a game when we have a comfortable lead or start a game. The same goes for any other possible changes. Don't think Elliott will treat it as experimental matches. While we have clinched the conference championship, wins may be vital when it comes to rankings for the tournament. Yeah it was not due to an injury or anything. I guess players get to choose if they want to wear long leggings or short tights. Brionne wore them a few times and I have seen it across the country for teams playing in the fall. I do think now that Shook is gone she will be used as a blocking sub. Do I think Texas will need one? No but I would hope she gets some in game reps just so she can get that college play feel.
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Post by saywhatnow on Nov 15, 2020 14:55:45 GMT -5
My gut tells me the committee will end up assigning the top four national (host) seeds to conference champions. So, the Big 12, PAC 12, B1G, SEC, and ACC champions will be jockeying for position. Every loss will be magnified. If Texas remains undefeated throughout the rest of their games, we will get one of the top four national seeds. It will be more subjective (the eye test) when it comes to the committee figuring out the order of those national seeds. I say go radical, which the NCAA won't do.
1. Invite 96 teams to play 2. For the first round, winner is determined as best out of 3 sets 3. For the remaining 48 teams, then the traditional best out of 5
But of course, that would never fly with anyone.
Who is paying for these 96 teams to participate and with what money?
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 15, 2020 15:06:41 GMT -5
First Cabello must be healthy. I noticed against WV, she was in a game jersey, but wearing some type of leggings instead of normal game shorts. Not sure the significance of that. I kinda doubt Cabello will start a match, but I think we will get some playing time if 100%. Most likely it will be either come in a game when we have a comfortable lead or start a game. The same goes for any other possible changes. Don't think Elliott will treat it as experimental matches. While we have clinched the conference championship, wins may be vital when it comes to rankings for the tournament. Yeah it was not due to an injury or anything. I guess players get to choose if they want to wear long leggings or short tights. Brionne wore them a few times and I have seen it across the country for teams playing in the fall. I do think now that Shook is gone she will be used as a blocking sub. Do I think Texas will need one? No but I would hope she gets some in game reps just so she can get that college play feel. Don't disagree. It was just that when a player has been out, then makes a change like that their second week back, it does create a question of why. Yes, shorts are not a requirement and I do remember Brionne wearing leggings at least one week of matches. I suspect in that case she had maybe a slightly pulled muscle or a tight one and these provided more support. I'm sure Cabello went get some playing time. How much or in what manner is unknown, but I think Elliott would want her to get some type of game action before the fall is over. I won't even be shocked if Madison Williams is in for a few points.
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Nov 15, 2020 15:10:34 GMT -5
Yeah it was not due to an injury or anything. I guess players get to choose if they want to wear long leggings or short tights. Brionne wore them a few times and I have seen it across the country for teams playing in the fall. I do think now that Shook is gone she will be used as a blocking sub. Do I think Texas will need one? No but I would hope she gets some in game reps just so she can get that college play feel. Don't disagree. It was just that when a player has been out, then makes a change like that their second week back, it does create a question of why. Yes, shorts are not a requirement and I do remember Brionne wearing leggings at least one week of matches. I suspect in that case she had maybe a slightly pulled muscle or a tight one and these provided more support. I'm sure Cabello went get some playing time. How much or in what manner is unknown, but I think Elliott would want her to get some type of game action before the fall is over. I won't even be shocked if Madison Williams is in for a few points. Completely agree. That is of course if she is 100% if she is then I would want to see her Play at least a set. If not then keep her out and let's get ready for the spring. As far as Williams, I wouldn't hold my breath to see her play this fall as Jerritt said she won't be cleared until they get back in January baring any setbacks. Things might have changed and if both of them are able to get some court action in these last two matches then I am all in
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Post by beachindoor on Nov 15, 2020 15:20:39 GMT -5
Comparing Texas's fast tempo setting to Florida's attempt at doing so is night and day. I love both teams but Gabriel's connection with the hitters is much better than Monserez's connection with them at the fast tempo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 16:40:57 GMT -5
OK no speculation. Any advantage Texas will gain from being undefeated in the fall would still have been relevant had they played half their schedule in the spring. But they wouldn't be negatively affected by any recency bias. No speculation either. We are 14-0 with only two matches against 1-7 TCU to have an undefeated conference season. Plus we've wrapped up the conference title. So the horse (undefeated conference season) is just about in the barn. So we've gone out and set a fairly high bar for other teams to meet or exceed. There are advantages to that. Beside I agree with the post above that the top 4 seeds will almost certainly come from conference champions. So I feel good that we've already put up a strong case for one of those spots. Another advantage is that other than the postponed matches against TCU, we've been able to play week after week with gives the coaches the ability to judge the progress of the team and players without a number of stops and starts. It remains to be seen if the all spring schools will have that continuity. I'm not knocking anything Texas has achieved so maybe the point would be better illustrated with a different example, like Baylor. They have zero chance at maintaining that #2 ranking. If the B12 had split the season between fall and spring they'd still have had the ugly loss to Kansas but wouldn't have had those two error filled matches against Texas. They'd have had another training block to sort out their issues plus a big time reinforcement in Preslie Anderson arriving from Cal in Jan - Texas are also getting reinforcements who could've benefited from more spring matches. Baylor would have had the spring to make a push for a top 4 seed. That's effectively the position Florida are in now.
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 15, 2020 16:59:24 GMT -5
No speculation either. We are 14-0 with only two matches against 1-7 TCU to have an undefeated conference season. Plus we've wrapped up the conference title. So the horse (undefeated conference season) is just about in the barn. So we've gone out and set a fairly high bar for other teams to meet or exceed. There are advantages to that. Beside I agree with the post above that the top 4 seeds will almost certainly come from conference champions. So I feel good that we've already put up a strong case for one of those spots. Another advantage is that other than the postponed matches against TCU, we've been able to play week after week with gives the coaches the ability to judge the progress of the team and players without a number of stops and starts. It remains to be seen if the all spring schools will have that continuity. I'm not knocking anything Texas has achieved so maybe the point would be better illustrated with a different example, like Baylor. They have zero chance at maintaining that #2 ranking. If the B12 had split the season between fall and spring they'd still have had the ugly loss to Kansas but wouldn't have had those two error filled matches against Texas. They'd have had another training block to sort out their issues plus a big time reinforcement in Preslie Anderson arriving from Cal in Jan - Texas are also getting reinforcements who could've benefited from more spring matches. Baylor would have had the spring to make a push for a top 4 seed. That's effectively the position Florida are in now. There's pros and cons to both. I was just pointing out the possible pros to playing a full schedule in the fall. We can talk "could haves" all we want, but that isn't reality. Rather than continue to "what if" what could happen with a hypothetical (meaning it ain't gonna happen) split schedule or some other hypothetical scenario, it would be more beneficial to discuss how Texas, since this is the Texas thread, makes the best use of their somewhat abbreviated spring season. Also Baylor may still get another shot or two at Texas. Already buzz that the two may schedule an OOC match or two in the spring. By the way, why didn't Baylor's transfer play in the fall?
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