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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 21:47:59 GMT -5
We're just gonna have to disagree on this point, at least in terms of elite at the Top 10 level nationally. I'm not sure about your Stanford/PSU/Nebraska group. Of course all have great histories of ball control, and two of the three were good in 2019, but Florida was actually (slightly) better than all of them. In 2019 UF passed a 2.20, Stanford and PSU passed a 2.19, Nebraska passed a 2.03. Looking ahead to 2020, all 3 face uncertainty in terms of passing. Stanford will have two new passers (one of whom will prob be a freshman), PSU passed two all year and graduated White and Holcomb and Nebraska... Well their SR is a mess and it won't be THAT MUCH better in 2020 to top UF. As for Florida graduated Gregory who passed well (2.27) and neither Fischer or Cerame were close to that (2.07 and 1.94) but McKissock is good and I'm expecting her to take the jersey. Hammons is a very good ball control OH (2.31 in 2019), Hall is good for an OH (2.15) so if McKissock can come in even close to Gregory they should again be one of the better passing teams in the nation. Regarding the Top 10 in 2020, with so many new Liberos there's bound to be a shake up. Kentucky were the best passing team (2.28) in the nation in 2019, I don't expect much change there; they lost Edmond (2.12) but can DS her replacement if necessary and they keep Curry, Stumler and Tharp as the best passing trio in D1. UCSB were up there last year (2.26) but gutted their roster, missing all 3 main passers from 2019. TAMU (2.24) lost Gomez, Oregon (2.20) are adding another good DS so they will likely be better than Florida and Purdue (2.18) lost no passers so might leapfrog Florida, but either way, if Florida aren't in that Top 10 group, they're only slightly outside it and I'd say odds are they'll be better than the Card, Huskers or Nittany Lions in 2020. okay I’m glad you brought the stats because I really did think they passed well last year and it’s nice to know I’m not crazy lmao |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 21:59:11 GMT -5
We're just gonna have to disagree on this point, at least in terms of elite at the Top 10 level nationally. I'm not sure about your Stanford/PSU/Nebraska group. Of course all have great histories of ball control, and two of the three were good in 2019, but Florida was actually (slightly) better than all of them. In 2019 UF passed a 2.20, Stanford and PSU passed a 2.19, Nebraska passed a 2.03. Looking ahead to 2020, all 3 face uncertainty in terms of passing. Stanford will have two new passers (one of whom will prob be a freshman), PSU passed two all year and graduated White and Holcomb and Nebraska... Well their SR is a mess and it won't be THAT MUCH better in 2020 to top UF. As for Florida graduated Gregory who passed well (2.27) and neither Fischer or Cerame were close to that (2.07 and 1.94) but McKissock is good and I'm expecting her to take the jersey. Hammons is a very good ball control OH (2.31 in 2019), Hall is good for an OH (2.15) so if McKissock can come in even close to Gregory they should again be one of the better passing teams in the nation. Regarding the Top 10 in 2020, with so many new Liberos there's bound to be a shake up. Kentucky were the best passing team (2.28) in the nation in 2019, I don't expect much change there; they lost Edmond (2.12) but can DS her replacement if necessary and they keep Curry, Stumler and Tharp as the best passing trio in D1. UCSB were up there last year (2.26) but gutted their roster, losing all 3 main passers from 2019. TAMU (2.24) lost Gomez, Oregon (2.20) are adding another good DS so they will likely be better than Florida and Purdue (2.18) lost no passers so might leapfrog Florida, but either way, if Florida aren't in that Top 10 group, they're only slightly outside it and I'd say odds are they'll be better than the Card, Huskers or Nittany Lions again in 2020. okay but now knowing that Kentucky was the best passing team in the country with one of the best setters what was their issue |
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Post by eastcoastopp on May 4, 2020 22:15:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure about your Stanford/PSU/Nebraska group. Of course all have great histories of ball control, and two of the three were good in 2019, but Florida was actually (slightly) better than all of them. In 2019 UF passed a 2.20, Stanford and PSU passed a 2.19, Nebraska passed a 2.03. Looking ahead to 2020, all 3 face uncertainty in terms of passing. Stanford will have two new passers (one of whom will prob be a freshman), PSU passed two all year and graduated White and Holcomb and Nebraska... Well their SR is a mess and it won't be THAT MUCH better in 2020 to top UF. As for Florida graduated Gregory who passed well (2.27) and neither Fischer or Cerame were close to that (2.07 and 1.94) but McKissock is good and I'm expecting her to take the jersey. Hammons is a very good ball control OH (2.31 in 2019), Hall is good for an OH (2.15) so if McKissock can come in even close to Gregory they should again be one of the better passing teams in the nation. Regarding the Top 10 in 2020, with so many new Liberos there's bound to be a shake up. Kentucky were the best passing team (2.28) in the nation in 2019, I don't expect much change there; they lost Edmond (2.12) but can DS her replacement if necessary and they keep Curry, Stumler and Tharp as the best passing trio in D1. UCSB were up there last year (2.26) but gutted their roster, losing all 3 main passers from 2019. TAMU (2.24) lost Gomez, Oregon (2.20) are adding another good DS so they will likely be better than Florida and Purdue (2.18) lost no passers so might leapfrog Florida, but either way, if Florida aren't in that Top 10 group, they're only slightly outside it and I'd say odds are they'll be better than the Card, Huskers or Nittany Lions again in 2020. okay but now knowing that Kentucky was the best passing team in the country with one of the best setters what was their issue Down the stretch it was their blocking (or lack thereof) and middle production in front of the setter At least that’s my belief |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 22:19:39 GMT -5
okay but now knowing that Kentucky was the best passing team in the country with one of the best setters what was their issue Down the stretch it was their blocking (or lack thereof) and middle production in front of the setter At least that’s my belief I wish I understood why they never ran one balls to their middles |
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Post by eastcoastopp on May 4, 2020 22:51:56 GMT -5
Down the stretch it was their blocking (or lack thereof) and middle production in front of the setter At least that’s my belief I wish I understood why they never ran one balls to their middles I’m assuming that either the connection wasn’t great or that it was just simply the game plan. The slide was clearly their more comfortable and efficient attacking style. And with Cooper and Edmond’s ability to run combination plays on the right side, and having Stumler out of the pipe, they didn’t have a pressing need to run 1s. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 22:55:53 GMT -5
I wish I understood why they never ran one balls to their middles I’m assuming that either the connection wasn’t great or that it was just simply the game plan. The slide was clearly their more comfortable and efficient attacking style. And with Cooper and Edmond’s ability to run combination plays on the right side, and having Stumler out of the pipe, they didn’t have a pressing need to run 1s. then maybe they should have ran some 3s. (Gaps if that’s what y’all call them) |
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Post by eastcoastopp on May 4, 2020 23:07:09 GMT -5
I’m assuming that either the connection wasn’t great or that it was just simply the game plan. The slide was clearly their more comfortable and efficient attacking style. And with Cooper and Edmond’s ability to run combination plays on the right side, and having Stumler out of the pipe, they didn’t have a pressing need to run 1s. then maybe they should have ran some 3s. (Gaps if that’s what y’all call them) But it’s kind of been the trend for them the last few years. The only middle they’ve had in the last five years that was visibly comfortable in front of the setter was Emily Franklin. Combine that with how well they blocked and that’s why 2017 was such a success. I personally think they’ve should’ve run more slides in front of the setter. That’s how they made Kaz Brown more effective. |
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Post by oldnewbie on May 4, 2020 23:17:47 GMT -5
Mckissok is very good. I think she’s the best option to play libero next season but who knows how she’ll adapt to the college game. Florida has a strong chance to be a top 10 seed by the tourney if they can get some more consistency setting, but the wildcard for them imo is really the middle. Dooley and king have shown bright spots but haven’t consistently impressed and shown they can play with anyone. Okammor is very athletic and has lots of potential but hasn’t been playing vb for a very long time I believe, so a lot of questions in the middle. She was outstanding in the Under Armour All American match. She should have been MVP for the losing team. Based on that sample, she will transition to the college level just fine. Full disclosure: Also not her dad. |
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Post by trainermch on May 14, 2020 18:25:07 GMT -5
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Post by trainermch on May 14, 2020 18:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by trainermch on May 14, 2020 18:26:26 GMT -5
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Post by trainermch on May 14, 2020 18:53:46 GMT -5
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Post by volleyaudience on May 18, 2020 20:14:13 GMT -5
It's interesting how often over the years that folks have been convinced our returners and stellar newcomers would mean a final four or dare I say a championship contender. I really hope this is the case for Florida in 2020, I do, but the first few matches of the season usually sober one up. The problem usually is that other teams out there have great returners and stellar newcomers too.  IMO Florida has good talent this year. With good coaching and a history of high level recruiting, I'm perplexed why there's no NC. Why is that? It seems all the other schools who have seven or more final four appearances have at least one. Any thoughts? |
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Post by eastcoastopp on May 22, 2020 18:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by trainermch on Jun 7, 2020 21:59:45 GMT -5
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