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Post by jengal on Jun 27, 2020 19:54:37 GMT -5
Maybe Hammons can be the DS for Carlton. Then she can pass to take pressure off the OH’s. Hall and Caesar are the starters at OH for me. Sucks for Hammons because she is a senior. Unless she moves to libero? Sounds like most people don’t think that happens.
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Post by friendlybanter on Jun 27, 2020 21:30:28 GMT -5
Hall/ Ceasar 6 rotation OHs Dooley/ King MBs Carlton RS (Hammons back row) Monserez S Mckissok Libero
I think Hendrickson pushes Monserez, Okammor pushes King, and Warner/Soko/ whoever else pushes Carlton. Like this would be the year to try and not run a multi-setter offense. Like there’s not enough time for the connections to be made. Like I find it hard to believe Florida will start 3 freshman. Like I know Monserez isn’t perfect, but she’s not a tiny setter and she has a year under her belt running a one setter offense. If things not working early then you try to add Hendrickson in when she has had more time to connect with her hitters. I think Hall and Caesar both will be fine playing 6 rotations, but if Caesar struggles in serve receive, just take her out for one the DS’s. I think for Florida to be successful they need to get offense from out the middle, and it seemed like last year Dooley wasn’t an offensive threat at all. I don’t know much about Okammor, but can she run a slide? I really think this is the year to keep it simple, at least early.
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Post by secgator4 on Jun 27, 2020 22:57:39 GMT -5
Hall/ Ceasar 6 rotation OHs Dooley/ King MBs Carlton RS (Hammons back row) Monserez S Mckissok Libero I think Hendrickson pushes Monserez, Okammor pushes King, and Warner/Soko/ whoever else pushes Carlton. Like this would be the year to try and not run a multi-setter offense. Like there’s not enough time for the connections to be made. Like I find it hard to believe Florida will start 3 freshman. Like I know Monserez isn’t perfect, but she’s not a tiny setter and she has a year under her belt running a one setter offense. If things not working early then you try to add Hendrickson in when she has had more time to connect with her hitters. I think Hall and Caesar both will be fine playing 6 rotations, but if Caesar struggles in serve receive, just take her out for one the DS’s. I think for Florida to be successful they need to get offense from out the middle, and it seemed like last year Dooley wasn’t an offensive threat at all. I don’t know much about Okammor, but can she run a slide? I really think this is the year to keep it simple, at least early. These are all good points. Likely easiest to run a 5-1 with an experienced lineup that's used to playing with each other and develop that as needed. Unsure if Hammons playing back row for Carlton is the best idea though. We'd want them both to serve. Anyone know how effective Ceasar's serve is?
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Post by secgator4 on Jun 27, 2020 23:06:28 GMT -5
My guess on the best potential 5-1 rotations
Rotation 1 - Best blocking rotation OH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7
DS/OH: Hammons L: McKissock S: Monserez - serving
SR: McKissock, Hammons, Hall
Rotation 2 - 2nd best offensive rotation with 2 outsides in SR OH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7
DS/OH: Hall - serving L: McKissock S: Monserez
SR: McKissock, Hall, Ceasar
Rotation 3 - Best offensive rotation with 2 outsides in SR and libero serving OH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7
DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock - serving S: Monserez
SR: McKissock, Hall, Ceasar
Rotation 4 - Carlton serving so 2nd back row option when fewest/shortest offensive options in front row OH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0
DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock DS: Cerame/Fischer (Carlton will serve)
SR: McKissock, Hall, Cerame/Fischer
Rotation 5 - potential best SR group coupled with 2nd weakest offensive rotation
OH: Hall 6'3 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0
DS/OH: Hammons - serving L: McKissock DS: Cerame/Fischer
SR: McKissock, Hammons, Cerame/Fischer
Rotation 6 - serving specialist and potential best SR group coupled with weakest offensive rotation
OH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) S: Monserez 6'0
DS/OH: Hammons L: McKissock - serving specialist will serve (maybe Hendrickson and she acts as a back right offensive option too?) DS: Cerame/Fischer
SR: McKissock, Hammons, Cerame/Fischer
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Post by friendlybanter on Jun 28, 2020 0:11:52 GMT -5
Hall/ Ceasar 6 rotation OHs Dooley/ King MBs Carlton RS (Hammons back row) Monserez S Mckissok Libero I think Hendrickson pushes Monserez, Okammor pushes King, and Warner/Soko/ whoever else pushes Carlton. Like this would be the year to try and not run a multi-setter offense. Like there’s not enough time for the connections to be made. Like I find it hard to believe Florida will start 3 freshman. Like I know Monserez isn’t perfect, but she’s not a tiny setter and she has a year under her belt running a one setter offense. If things not working early then you try to add Hendrickson in when she has had more time to connect with her hitters. I think Hall and Caesar both will be fine playing 6 rotations, but if Caesar struggles in serve receive, just take her out for one the DS’s. I think for Florida to be successful they need to get offense from out the middle, and it seemed like last year Dooley wasn’t an offensive threat at all. I don’t know much about Okammor, but can she run a slide? I really think this is the year to keep it simple, at least early. These are all good points. Likely easiest to run a 5-1 with an experienced lineup that's used to playing with each other and develop that as needed. Unsure if Hammons playing back row for Carlton is the best idea though. We'd want them both to serve. Anyone know how effective Ceasar's serve is? Yeah makes sense, but seems like no one was really happy with the play of Fischer/Creame. With Hammons coming in for Carlon, and Ceasar/Hall both playing 6 rotations, you will always have 4 offensive options on the court. So yeah I’ll take the extra offensive option over the extra good serve (since that means a non offensive DS will be coming in).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 0:40:15 GMT -5
My guess on the best potential 5-1 rotations Rotation 1 - Best blocking rotationOH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hammons L: McKissock S: Monserez - serving SR: Hall, Hammons, McKissock Rotation 2 - 2nd best offensive rotation with 2 outsides in SROH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hall - serving L: McKissock S: Monserez SR: Hall, Ceasar, McKissock Rotation 3 - Best offensive rotation with 2 outsides in SR and libero servingOH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock - serving S: Monserez SR: Hall, Ceasar, McKissock Rotation 4 - Carlton serving so 2nd back row option when fewest/shortest offensive options in front rowOH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock DS: Cerame/Fischer (Carlton will serve) SR: Hall, McKissock, Cerame/Fischer Rotation 5 - potential best SR group coupled with 2nd weakest offensive rotationOH: Hall 6'3 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hammons - serving L: McKissock DS: Cerame/Fischer SR: Hammons, McKissock, Cerame/Fischer Rotation 6 - serving specialist and potential best SR group coupled with weakest offensive rotationOH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hammons L: McKissock - serving specialist will serve (maybe Hendrickson and she acts as a back right offensive option too?) DS: Cerame/Fischer SR: Hammons, McKissock, Cerame/Fischer Why aren't you pulling back Hall to pass in ro 5 & 6 with Hammons and McKissock?
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Post by secgator4 on Jun 28, 2020 0:57:31 GMT -5
These are all good points. Likely easiest to run a 5-1 with an experienced lineup that's used to playing with each other and develop that as needed. Unsure if Hammons playing back row for Carlton is the best idea though. We'd want them both to serve. Anyone know how effective Ceasar's serve is? Yeah makes sense, but seems like no one was really happy with the play of Fischer/Creame. With Hammons coming in for Carlon, and Ceasar/Hall both playing 6 rotations, you will always have 4 offensive options on the court. So yeah I’ll take the extra offensive option over the extra good serve (since that means a non offensive DS will be coming in). You're right. 4 offensive options is hard to pass up and Ceasar's serve may replace Carlton's anyway. Let's see what that does to serve/receive compared to my above rotations. Rotation 1OH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock S: Monserez - serving SR: McKissock, Hall, Ceasar Rotation 2OH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Ceasar - serving L: McKissock S: Monserez SR: McKissock, Hall, Ceasar/DS Rotation 3OH: Hall 6'3 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Ceasar L: McKissock - serving S: Monserez SR: McKissock, Hall, Ceasar/DS Rotation 4OH: Hall 6'3 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Ceasar L: McKissock DS: Hammons - serving SR: McKissock, Hammons, Ceasar/Hall Rotation 5OH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hall - serving L: McKissock DS: Hammons SR: McKissock, Hammons, Hall Rotation 6OH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock - serving specialist will serve DS: Hammons SR: McKissock, Hammons, Hall
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Post by secgator4 on Jun 28, 2020 0:59:11 GMT -5
My guess on the best potential 5-1 rotations Rotation 1 - Best blocking rotationOH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hammons L: McKissock S: Monserez - serving SR: Hall, Hammons, McKissock Rotation 2 - 2nd best offensive rotation with 2 outsides in SROH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hall - serving L: McKissock S: Monserez SR: Hall, Ceasar, McKissock Rotation 3 - Best offensive rotation with 2 outsides in SR and libero servingOH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) RS: Carlton 6'7 DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock - serving S: Monserez SR: Hall, Ceasar, McKissock Rotation 4 - Carlton serving so 2nd back row option when fewest/shortest offensive options in front rowOH: Ceasar 6'1 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hall L: McKissock DS: Cerame/Fischer (Carlton will serve) SR: Hall, McKissock, Cerame/Fischer Rotation 5 - potential best SR group coupled with 2nd weakest offensive rotationOH: Hall 6'3 MB: King 6'3 (MB who can run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hammons - serving L: McKissock DS: Cerame/Fischer SR: Hammons, McKissock, Cerame/Fischer Rotation 6 - serving specialist and potential best SR group coupled with weakest offensive rotationOH: Hall 6'3 MB: Dooley 6'6 (can't run slide) S: Monserez 6'0 DS/OH: Hammons L: McKissock - serving specialist will serve (maybe Hendrickson and she acts as a back right offensive option too?) DS: Cerame/Fischer SR: Hammons, McKissock, Cerame/Fischer Why aren't you pulling back Hall to pass in ro 5 & 6 with Hammons and McKissock? To let her focus on setting up her offense when there's only 1 other front row option (the MB).
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Post by secgator4 on Jun 28, 2020 1:14:53 GMT -5
Let's compare minimum serve/receive responsibilities in the potential systems outlined thus far. Assuming a minimum of 18ish total SR spots needing to be filled 5-2 from page 16
McKissock: 6 Hall: 4 Hammons: 3 DS: 3 Ceasar: 2 5-1 w/ Hammons DSing for CeasarMcKissock: 6 Hall: 4 Hammons: 3 DS: 3 Ceasar: 2 5-1 w/ Hammons DSing for Carlton (always 4 hitters on the court)McKissock: 6 Hall: 5-6 Hammons: 3 Ceasar: 1-4 - She could be subbed out for a DS for 2 rotations when there are 3 front row attackers if SR becomes a problem; Hall could also take a SR spot from her if needed
- If she's in for SR 1 rotation, Gators could still have 4 attackers in 4 rotations and 3 front row attackers in the other 2
- If she's in SR for 3 rotations, Gators would have 4 attackers on the court in 6 rotations
- If she's in SR for 4 rotations, she gives Hall a SR break when Hall is 1 of 2 front row attacking options.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 1:36:08 GMT -5
Why aren't you pulling back Hall to pass in ro 5 & 6 with Hammons and McKissock? To let her focus on setting up her offense when there's only 1 other front row option (the MB). She was significantly better in SR than either DS last year (both of whom were below 50% good pass). Hall is perfectly capable of handling SR and hitting front row.
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Post by secgator4 on Jun 28, 2020 1:53:16 GMT -5
To let her focus on setting up her offense when there's only 1 other front row option (the MB). She was significantly better in SR than either DS last year (both of whom were below 50% good pass). Hall is perfectly capable of handling SR and hitting front row. She is totally capable of course, but I don't want to use her more than necessary or she's physically capable of handling. Two straight years of missing games at the end of the season. I'd rather do what we can to have her healthy at the end of the season. Plus, we have a big question mark at MB this year. Hall's offense is going to be more important in rotations when Kramer can't bail us out and there's only 2 front row attackers. Also, I think it's unfair to judge Cerame and Fischer based on last year's results. Cerame was playing well to start the season before her injury then Fischer was pulled in and out as needed. Hard I'm sure for both of them to develop a rhythm and get comfortable who they're passing with considering that inconsistency. This being said, I like the 5-1 idea with Hammons DSing for Carlton now that I've looked at it more. Puts less offensive pressure on Hall so I feel better with her being in SR more where she's great as you've said.
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Post by jengal on Jun 28, 2020 13:07:56 GMT -5
Hall/ Ceasar 6 rotation OHs Dooley/ King MBs Carlton RS (Hammons back row) Monserez S Mckissok Libero I think Hendrickson pushes Monserez, Okammor pushes King, and Warner/Soko/ whoever else pushes Carlton. Like this would be the year to try and not run a multi-setter offense. Like there’s not enough time for the connections to be made. Like I find it hard to believe Florida will start 3 freshman. Like I know Monserez isn’t perfect, but she’s not a tiny setter and she has a year under her belt running a one setter offense. If things not working early then you try to add Hendrickson in when she has had more time to connect with her hitters. I think Hall and Caesar both will be fine playing 6 rotations, but if Caesar struggles in serve receive, just take her out for one the DS’s. I think for Florida to be successful they need to get offense from out the middle, and it seemed like last year Dooley wasn’t an offensive threat at all. I don’t know much about Okammor, but can she run a slide? I really think this is the year to keep it simple, at least early. I agree that this is the most likely scenario to start the season. Feel bad for Warner!
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Jun 28, 2020 15:57:58 GMT -5
Hall/ Ceasar 6 rotation OHs Dooley/ King MBs Carlton RS (Hammons back row) Monserez S Mckissok Libero I think Hendrickson pushes Monserez, Okammor pushes King, and Warner/Soko/ whoever else pushes Carlton. Like this would be the year to try and not run a multi-setter offense. Like there’s not enough time for the connections to be made. Like I find it hard to believe Florida will start 3 freshman. Like I know Monserez isn’t perfect, but she’s not a tiny setter and she has a year under her belt running a one setter offense. If things not working early then you try to add Hendrickson in when she has had more time to connect with her hitters. I think Hall and Caesar both will be fine playing 6 rotations, but if Caesar struggles in serve receive, just take her out for one the DS’s. I think for Florida to be successful they need to get offense from out the middle, and it seemed like last year Dooley wasn’t an offensive threat at all. I don’t know much about Okammor, but can she run a slide? I really think this is the year to keep it simple, at least early. I agree that this is the most likely scenario to start the season. Feel bad for Warner! She should just be red shirted. Let her have two years of eligibility after this year!
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Post by paloalto on Jun 28, 2020 21:15:19 GMT -5
I don’t see Haley Warner prominently mentioned for the starting lineup. I remember Stanford was trying really hard to recruit her. I believe it would have been our first volleyball player from the state of Arkansas. We lost out to Florida.
I heard one of the reasons was she expected more playing time along with many other good reasons for her decision. It would be somewhat of a downer for her to compete against Carlton for OPP position if that’s how things line up this season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:28:37 GMT -5
I don’t see Haley Warner prominently mentioned for the starting lineup. I remember Stanford was trying really hard to recruit her. I believe it would have been our first volleyball player from the state of Arkansas. We lost out to Florida. I heard one of the reasons was she expected more playing time along with many other good reasons for her decision. It would be somewhat of a downer for her to compete against Carlton for OPP position if that’s how things line up this season. I kind of wish she would transfer, but maybe we'll have a Joseph situation
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