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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 19:37:42 GMT -5
This conversation is premature, because I really hope we get a season of some sort, but in the event we don't or it's cut way short and there's an option for this year's players to not lose a year of eligibility, I was pondering the effect on UW. Probably Rettke gone pro, but hopefully (for the Badgers, I know each woman will make her own best decision), we'd keep most or all of Hilley, Barnes, Shanahan, Loberg, Haggerty. I know some of those could try pro as well, or just move on with their lives. This is where Barry Alvarez' quick decision to encourage those players affected in spring to "move on with their lives" could come back to haunt him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 20:01:21 GMT -5
I do not think Alvarez will be bound by the decision he made in the spring. Wisconsin was in an interesting position in which football had finished, volleyball had finished, basketball had only 1 scholarship senior they would be losing. Really, the biggest losses among the Wisconsin seniors were a swimmer and 2 or 3 womens hockey players.
The most important coaches in the athletic department would be involved in this discussion a lot more than they were in March. While I think the answer would ultimately be the same, I think the decision process would be different.
As to volleyball, I would not pretend to know what each would do if the option existed for them to all come back. I could see any of them moving on. I could see any of them coming back. Even Rettke. I would think Haggerty would probably be ready to move on. It would be her 6th year. It Would make for some interesting roster juggling for a few years if it came to pass. Sheffield would move mountains to keep Hilley and Rettke, though
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Post by northwoods on Jul 9, 2020 20:53:36 GMT -5
Well, if you are given the opportunity to spend an extra year to work on a Masters Degree, Madison isn’t the worst place to do it. Then again all would be eligible grad transfers if they got an extra year of eligibility.....could probably go to a school with a beach program and spend a season indoors and tack on an extra year on scholarship with the beach program.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2020 20:59:24 GMT -5
A lot of athletic directors will know from expertise on campus that there is a lot of optimism regarding a vaccine, maybe several, in early 2021. Companies are already ramping up production capability in anticipation of final approval. That is very different than the case last Spring.
That said, I really have no crystal ball on what it means for the program, or what the players will do personally. Only Haggerty does not have a red shirt to burn among the seniors. I really want her and the other seniors to have a final season. It's been such a long hard road.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2020 21:03:03 GMT -5
I also think Rettke's chances at the Olympics are pretty low if they only take 3 middles. She needs more experience. I don't think she gets enough in the interim even if she goes pro. I expect the transition to pro ball will take a bit, as it seems to for most americans.
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Post by ndodge on Jul 10, 2020 10:38:13 GMT -5
Maybe Rettke will be like Frank Kaminsky (Sorry for basketball analogy, but it was a touching story about someone passing on a certain pro deal in order to have one more year with his crew doing something he loved).
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Post by huskerjen on Jul 10, 2020 11:31:05 GMT -5
This conversation is premature, because I really hope we get a season of some sort, but in the event we don't or it's cut way short and there's an option for this year's players to not lose a year of eligibility, I was pondering the effect on UW. Probably Rettke gone pro, but hopefully (for the Badgers, I know each woman will make her own best decision), we'd keep most or all of Hilley, Barnes, Shanahan, Loberg, Haggerty. I know some of those could try pro as well, or just move on with their lives. I think most of the seniors will move on, especially those that have incentives to leave (e.g. Rettke and Hilley going pro). It sucks, I want to see seniors from all schools have their senior seasons whether it be your aforementioned seniors, ours (Stivrins, Sun, Sweet), or any other schools. I could see some sticking around if there is a one-time spring season, especially if they do not graduate until May, but other than that, I anticipate the worst if the fall season is cancelled.
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Jul 10, 2020 11:32:58 GMT -5
For die-hard Badger fans, if we end up moving forward with the Big-10 only conference play this fall, how would y'all feel about redshirting Devyn Robinson? Instead of having her play half a season on the right side, might as well keep her in the middle for 4 years starting 2021? I know this might sound stupid, but she is just sooooo good. I'd hate to see her not play in the middle for 4 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 12:04:14 GMT -5
For die-hard Badger fans, if we end up moving forward with the Big-10 only conference play this fall, how would y'all feel about redshirting Devyn Robinson? Instead of having her play half a season on the right side, might as well keep her in the middle for 4 years starting 2021? I know this might sound stupid, but she is just sooooo good. I'd hate to see her not play in the middle for 4 years. Depends upon if you assume there is going to be an actual NCAA Tournament. If there is, then you play her and go for a trophy. If not, well then all bets are off.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Jul 10, 2020 12:18:48 GMT -5
For die-hard Badger fans, if we end up moving forward with the Big-10 only conference play this fall, how would y'all feel about redshirting Devyn Robinson? Instead of having her play half a season on the right side, might as well keep her in the middle for 4 years starting 2021? I know this might sound stupid, but she is just sooooo good. I'd hate to see her not play in the middle for 4 years. Depends upon if you assume there is going to be an actual NCAA Tournament. If there is, then you play her and go for a trophy. If not, well then all bets are off. agree. If there is a tournament, you bet all of last years returners would wan the strongest line up on the court.
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Post by Wiswell on Jul 12, 2020 19:52:43 GMT -5
Slightly off topic. Can anyone find the video that's played at the beginning of each volleyball match with the Badgers of all different sports? One shot is Morgan McDonald winning Ncaa xc in the snow. Lots of celebratory shots.
It's got dramatic and loud music.
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Post by northwoods on Jul 12, 2020 21:53:58 GMT -5
For die-hard Badger fans, if we end up moving forward with the Big-10 only conference play this fall, how would y'all feel about redshirting Devyn Robinson? Instead of having her play half a season on the right side, might as well keep her in the middle for 4 years starting 2021? I know this might sound stupid, but she is just sooooo good. I'd hate to see her not play in the middle for 4 years. Depends upon if you assume there is going to be an actual NCAA Tournament. If there is, then you play her and go for a trophy. If not, well then all bets are off. i wonder when the NCAA will announce whether a championship tournament will be played? I agree that a number of player decisions hang in the balance.....if not, do you red-shirt Hilley or Rettke to make a run at a National Championship? Do you view a conference only season with no tourney as just a glorified rec league?
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Post by Wiswell on Jul 13, 2020 8:50:16 GMT -5
Conference-only has a couple of other wrinkles. You might have fewer Power 5 teams eligible for the post-season because they will have a losing record in a tough conference (say 9-11, or 8-12). But on the other hand you will have mid majors with lower RPI because they didn't play against teams in a tougher conference. So it completely messes up the legitimacy of the post-season.
I agree that the current seniors will move on. In general I don't have any optimism about this season and not even the spring. What have we done to stop the spread? Nothing. If there is a vaccine there is still a production and distribution issue and I don't think "division 1 athlete" would fall at the top of the priority list.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 15:19:06 GMT -5
Story from interview with Sheffield for Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel subscribers: www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2020/07/13/wisconsin-volleyball-hopes-play-2020-after-ncaa-runner-up-finish/5417247002/Not a lot new, really. But, what actually struck me was there were some moments of severe pessimism from Sheff. I hesitate to post the jarring quote, because it strikes me as one that could be less severe if it were in context. But, "“I don’t have any confidence that we’re going to play,” said Sheffield, who led UW to a runner-up finish in 2013 and again last season. “But I have confidence in the people around us that are making the decisions. Our administrators and our health people and our strength coaches and our government officials.” I still believe a season can happen safely, or as safely as anything else without adding much risk to the pandemic. But, I still think my last hope is a spring season.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jul 13, 2020 18:59:33 GMT -5
Bingoooooooooo!
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