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Post by bluepenquin on May 24, 2020 15:49:50 GMT -5
You think the walkons on those teams are contributing meaningfully to the Blank Ink score? Although, I don't exactly remember to formula, I suppose they could be getting points for bringing in Maine's Player of the Year as a walkon. Don't you get points for UA AA? If so I know several that were walk ons at top programs. Northwestern had 17 players with BI - Illinois had 12. Points system: PV Senior Ace: 7 for 1-5, 6 for 6-10, 5 for 11-25, 4 for 26-50, 3 for 51-100, 1.5 for High honorable mention, 1 for honorable mention, 0.5 for low honorable mention. Under Armor: 1 for 1st team, 0.5 for 2nd or 3rd team. All-American: 5 for 1st team, 4.5 for 2nd team, 4 for 3rd team, 2 for HM, and 2 for each prior year of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team. All-Conference Team: 1 for 1st team, 0.5 for 2nd team or HM depending on whether the conference has a 2nd team. Top 5 players: 1. Samedy (Minnesota) - 17.5 1. Lilley (Kentucky) - 17.5 3. Rettke (Wisconsin) - 16.5 4. Hilley (Wisconsin) - 16.0 5. Haggerty (Wisconsin) - 15.0
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Post by bluepenquin on May 24, 2020 16:06:28 GMT -5
And the players that gets us to the top 50 in black ink.
6. Strivins (Nebraska) - 14.0 6. Pittman (Minnesota) - 14.0 8. Hall (Florida) - 13.0 9. Hord (Penn State) - 13.0 10. Sun (Nebraska) - 13.0 11. Drews (Utah) - 12.5 12. May (UCLA) - 12.5 13. Hames (Nebraska) - 11.0 13. Parker (Penn State) - 11.0 13. Pressley (Baylor) - 11.0 16. Deberg (Missouri) - 10.5 16. Eggleston (Texas) - 10.5 16. Kubik (Nebraska) - 10.5 19. Cleveland (Purdue) - 10.0 19. Powell (Washington) - 10.0 Gneiting (BYU) - 10.0 - if she was on the roster for this year - taking a year off for mission work. 21. Blossom (Penn State) - 9.5 22. Gray (Penn State) - 9.0 22. Jones (Michigan) - 9.0 22. Loberg (Wisconsin) - 9.0 22. Lund (Pittsburgh) - 9.0 22. McGraw (Minnesota) - 9.0 22. Stumler (Kentucky) - 9.0 28. Kipp (Stanford) - 8.5 28. Bannister (LSU) - 8.5 30. Baird (Stanford) - 8.0 30. Botkin (USC) - 8.0 30. Butler (Texas) - 8.0 30. L.Smith (Stanford) - 8.0 30. Curry (Kentucky) - 8.0 30. Fields (Texas) - 8.0 30. Hammons (Florida) - 8.0 30. Knuth (Florida State) - 8.0 30. Landfair (Minnesota) - 8.0 30. Mruzik (Michigan) - 8.0 30. Wenaas (Minnesota) - 8.0 41. Lockin (Baylor) - 7.5 41. McGhee (Balor) - 7.5 41. Skinner (Kentucky) 7.5 44. Cabello (Texas) - 7.0 44. Xu (Stanford) - 7.0 44. Harrison (Baylor) - 7.0 44. Horin (USC) - 7.0 44. Koerber (Utah) - 7.0 44. Londot (Ohio State) - 7.0 44. O'Neal (Texas) - 7.0 44. Rutherford (Kentucky) - 7.0 44. Shook (Texas) 7.0
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Post by permagrin on May 24, 2020 17:28:34 GMT -5
Just an idea to see what you all think, instead of preseason just have a 13 week schedule where you play all other B1G teams twice. One less week and a true conference champion
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Post by ilikecorn on May 24, 2020 17:46:50 GMT -5
Just an idea to see what you all think, instead of preseason just have a 13 week schedule where you play all other B1G teams twice. One less week and a true conference champion I like it...I also wouldn't mind a few nearby non-cons along with that plan
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Post by jackson5vb on May 24, 2020 21:19:36 GMT -5
Just an idea to see what you all think, instead of preseason just have a 13 week schedule where you play all other B1G teams twice. One less week and a true conference champion They're going to go 7 east and 7 west to cut down on travel.
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Post by n00b on May 24, 2020 22:12:19 GMT -5
Just an idea to see what you all think, instead of preseason just have a 13 week schedule where you play all other B1G teams twice. One less week and a true conference champion They're going to go 7 east and 7 west to cut down on travel. I’ll put it out there that I don’t actually think this helps. This divides all of the nearby schools between Columbus and Madison. To minimize flights, it would make more sense to put all of those teams in one division and have zero flights, while the outer schools (Nebraska, Minnesota, PSU, Rutgers, MD) play each other since they’d be flying anyway. Unless you’re telling me those teams are going to bus to Indiana. And I’m not buying that.
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Post by JT on May 24, 2020 22:13:34 GMT -5
Just an idea to see what you all think, instead of preseason just have a 13 week schedule where you play all other B1G teams twice. One less week and a true conference champion Well, who knows what’ll happen with a tournament, but eliminating non-conference matches messes up RPI, for whatever that’s worth. And since the B1G has a lot of the high-attendance schools, it certainly doesn’t help with social distancing the fans.
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Post by JT on May 24, 2020 22:16:14 GMT -5
They're going to go 7 east and 7 west to cut down on travel. I’ll put it out there that I don’t actually think this helps. This divides all of the nearby schools between Columbus and Madison. To minimize flights, it would make more sense to put all of those teams in one division and have zero flights, while the outer schools (Nebraska, Minnesota, PSU, Rutgers, MD) play each other since they’d be flying anyway. Unless you’re telling me those teams are going to bus to Indiana. And I’m not buying that. Don’t most of the B1G do charter flights, now? Those are less of an issue, since except for the crew, everyone is already “family.” Although... who knows whether there’ll be budgets for that.
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Post by PointHawks on May 25, 2020 0:54:16 GMT -5
Do you have the source of this information? Looking like Pac12 challenge off the table. Can we see an extended ACC battle with more teams? Maybe an SEC home and home? Also the possibility of more mid-major OOC games? Thoughts?
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Post by coloradokidd on May 25, 2020 7:08:33 GMT -5
A good time to to change B1G Scheduling. - My Current Thoughts:
Conference Season: Play each conference member once for a regular conference season schedule (13 matches total -> alternating match location between the teams annually). The B1G Championship: The schedule would be a Wed, Fri, Sun format with the last 2 remaining teams playing in a 'Championship Match' Final on the following weekend (a different Championship location?). Conference results would determine tournament ranking (bracket) - with the B1G Conference Regular season Top 2 Teams getting a 1st round Bye. Schedule: Wed: 12 teams (6 matches) - 3 vs 14, 4 vs 13, 5 vs 12, 6 vs 11, 7 vs 10, 8 vs 9 Fri: Quarterfinals - 8 teams (4 matches) - 1 vs (the winner of 8 vs 9), 2 vs (the winner of 7 vs 10), the (winner of 3 vs 14) vs (the winner of 6 vs 11), and (the winner of 4 vs 13) vs (the winner of 5 vs 12). Sun: Semi-Finals - 4 Teams (2 matches) - 1) The winner of (1vs8,9) vs the winner of (4vs13,5vs12), and 2) The winner of (2vs7,10) vs the winner of (3vs14,6vs11) Championship Final - 2 Teams - The 2 remaining winners on a following weekend date (different location?).
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Post by ntylynbby on May 25, 2020 7:54:40 GMT -5
Do you have the source of this information? Looking like Pac12 challenge off the table. Can we see an extended ACC battle with more teams? Maybe an SEC home and home? Also the possibility of more mid-major OOC games? Thoughts? Was already noted that PAC12 OOC travel restriction of 400 mile.
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Post by volleyusa on May 25, 2020 8:47:46 GMT -5
I heard Purdue was opening up at Tennessee. I am unsure if this is the same deal that Tennessee/Illinois did last year as well.
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Post by Dr. Rosen Rosen on May 25, 2020 9:52:17 GMT -5
A good time to to change B1G Scheduling. - My Current Thoughts: Conference Season: Play each conference member once for a regular conference season schedule (13 matches total -> alternating match location between the teams annually). The B1G Championship: The schedule would be a Wed, Fri, Sun format with the last 2 remaining teams playing in a 'Championship Match' Final on the following weekend (a different Championship location?). Conference results would determine tournament ranking (bracket) - with the B1G Conference Regular season Top 2 Teams getting a 1 st round Bye. Schedule: Wed: 12 teams (6 matches) - 3 vs 14, 4 vs 13, 5 vs 12, 6 vs 11, 7 vs 10, 8 vs 9 Fri: Quarterfinals - 8 teams (4 matches) - 1 vs (the winner of 8 vs 9), 2 vs (the winner of 7 vs 10), the (winner of 3 vs 14) vs (the winner of 6 vs 11), and (the winner of 4 vs 13) vs (the winner of 5 vs 12). Sun: Semi-Finals - 4 Teams (2 matches) - 1) The winner of (1vs8,9) vs the winner of (4vs13,5vs12), and 2) The winner of (2vs7,10) vs the winner of (3vs14,6vs11) Championship Final - 2 Teams - The 2 remaining winners on a following weekend date (different location?). That is all great in concept except for a few things - your system would have teams playing 8 weeks with regular season and playoffs with 2 teams playing a ninth week - so there are 12 teams not getting a 10th week of matches - and your system would also require a 5th weekend of non conference which is really the hardest thing to schedule. You cannot do double round robin only because of conference RPI would be .500 - i like 3 weekends of non conference - 9 weeks of Big ten - 2 divisions play everyone in division twice and other division once then you have 2 weeks for a tourney
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Post by JT on May 25, 2020 10:41:44 GMT -5
I really don’t understand the desire for a conference tournament. Single-elimination tournaments don’t (always) result in the “best” team winning... any more than unbalanced seasons do.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 12:11:26 GMT -5
I don’t think their is anyway to have a fully balanced schedule season wise. Too many teams and too many variables but if we’re talking just conference everyone plays each other twice. One home and one away. If your gonna do a conference tourny you would have to get rid of some OOC games. Otherwise your playing more games and greater chance of injury. People u think would prefer teams full strength for NCAA tourny and increasing games leading into that leaves open a greater chance of injuries.
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