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Post by bball on May 15, 2020 20:41:04 GMT -5
It's nothing that you don't know but in the 3 Wisconsin Nebraska matches the Badgers passed an aggregate 2.17. The Huskers passed a 1.95. That would be a big reason why UNL ran less middle attacks. That, and Hilley can set the slide on medium passes with good consistency and location (Hames can't) and Nebraska has a middle that they don't want to set (Wisconsin doesn't). +1
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Post by bluepenquin on May 24, 2020 7:46:34 GMT -5
Black Ink as of now for the B1G is as follows:
Tier 1: 1. Wisconsin 2. Minnesota
Tier 1A: 3. Nebraska
Tier 1B: 4. Penn State
Tier 2: 5. Purdue 6. Michigan 7. Ohio State
Tier 3: 8. Michigan State 9. Illinois 9. Northwestern 11. Maryland
Tier 4: 12. Indiana 13. Iowa
Tier 5: 14. Rutgers
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Post by ntylynbby on May 24, 2020 7:57:17 GMT -5
Looking like Pac12 challenge off the table. Can we see an extended ACC battle with more teams? Maybe an SEC home and home? Also the possibility of more mid-major OOC games? Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 7:58:13 GMT -5
Black Ink as of now for the B1G is as follows: Tier 1: 1. Wisconsin 2. Minnesota Tier 1A: 3. Nebraska Tier 1B: 4. Penn State Tier 2: 5. Purdue 6. Michigan 7. Ohio State Tier 3: 8. Michigan State 9. Illinois 9. Northwestern 11. Maryland Tier 4: 12. Indiana 13. Iowa Tier 5: 14. Rutgers Do you divide the aggregate team score by total roster size? Quality over quantity?
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Post by bluepenquin on May 24, 2020 8:09:13 GMT -5
Black Ink as of now for the B1G is as follows: Tier 1: 1. Wisconsin 2. Minnesota Tier 1A: 3. Nebraska Tier 1B: 4. Penn State Tier 2: 5. Purdue 6. Michigan 7. Ohio State Tier 3: 8. Michigan State 9. Illinois 9. Northwestern 11. Maryland Tier 4: 12. Indiana 13. Iowa Tier 5: 14. Rutgers Do you divide the aggregate team score by total roster size? Quality over quantity? Nope - this is just a starting point, not a definitive answer. Northwestern has 22 on their roster vs. 16 for Illinois. Both have the same BI. Nebraska has 4 10-point players vs. 3 for Wisconsin and 2 for Minnesota and Penn State.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 8:13:43 GMT -5
Do you divide the aggregate team score by total roster size? Quality over quantity? Nope - this is just a starting point, not a definitive answer. Northwestern has 22 on their roster vs. 16 for Illinois. Both have the same BI. Nebraska has 4 10-point players vs. 3 for Wisconsin and 2 for Minnesota and Penn State. I'd be curious to see how it'd alter the rankings if adjusted for roster size. Sounds like Nebraska would be top.
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Post by bluepenquin on May 24, 2020 8:37:10 GMT -5
Nope - this is just a starting point, not a definitive answer. Northwestern has 22 on their roster vs. 16 for Illinois. Both have the same BI. Nebraska has 4 10-point players vs. 3 for Wisconsin and 2 for Minnesota and Penn State. I'd be curious to see how it'd alter the rankings if adjusted for roster size. Sounds like Nebraska would be top. For me right now - I would go: 1. Minnesota, 2. Wisconsin, 3. Nebraska, 4. Penn State. Bringing in Atherton is a huge difference maker for me. Shaffmaster *may* be good enough as a Freshman - but having Atherton now puts a floor on that position that makes this team almost automatically going to be very good. And then I am a huge Wenaas fan. Wisconsin's top 3: Radke, Hilley, and Haggerty all have more black ink than anyone on Nebraska. And then Loberg at 9 is just short of the arbitrary 10. The top 4 combined for Wisconsin is still pretty far ahead of the top 4 for Nebraska.
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Post by stats1st on May 24, 2020 9:01:07 GMT -5
I'd be curious to see how it'd alter the rankings if adjusted for roster size. Sounds like Nebraska would be top. For me right now - I would go: 1. Minnesota, 2. Wisconsin, 3. Nebraska, 4. Penn State. Bringing in Atherton is a huge difference maker for me. Shaffmaster *may* be good enough as a Freshman - but having Atherton now puts a floor on that position that makes this team almost automatically going to be very good. And then I am a huge Wenaas fan. Wisconsin's top 3: Radke, Hilley, and Haggerty all have more black ink than anyone on Nebraska. And then Loberg at 9 is just short of the arbitrary 10. The top 4 combined for Wisconsin is still pretty far ahead of the top 4 for Nebraska. I feel that Atherton is barely moving the dial, just as she did at UNC. With the HITTERS Minnesota has coming in, I would think anyone would be able to put a ball up for them to hit for a point. Atherton will be depth and competition in practice.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 9:32:17 GMT -5
For me right now - I would go: 1. Minnesota, 2. Wisconsin, 3. Nebraska, 4. Penn State. Bringing in Atherton is a huge difference maker for me. Shaffmaster *may* be good enough as a Freshman - but having Atherton now puts a floor on that position that makes this team almost automatically going to be very good. And then I am a huge Wenaas fan. Wisconsin's top 3: Radke, Hilley, and Haggerty all have more black ink than anyone on Nebraska. And then Loberg at 9 is just short of the arbitrary 10. The top 4 combined for Wisconsin is still pretty far ahead of the top 4 for Nebraska. I feel that Atherton is barely moving the dial, just as she did at UNC. With the HITTERS Minnesota has coming in, I would think anyone would be able to put a ball up for them to hit for a point. Atherton will be depth and competition in practice. I agree that Atherton is likely depth and to add competitiveness to the gym. But that doesn't mean she can't move the needle. It takes a village and for the freshman to have such an experienced setter to mentor her could be invaluable to her development. As I've said before, as good as the Gophers could be this year, I think they'll be even better in 2021. Atherton could have a big impact without actually playing that much.
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Post by bluepenquin on May 24, 2020 9:48:48 GMT -5
For me right now - I would go: 1. Minnesota, 2. Wisconsin, 3. Nebraska, 4. Penn State. Bringing in Atherton is a huge difference maker for me. Shaffmaster *may* be good enough as a Freshman - but having Atherton now puts a floor on that position that makes this team almost automatically going to be very good. And then I am a huge Wenaas fan. Wisconsin's top 3: Radke, Hilley, and Haggerty all have more black ink than anyone on Nebraska. And then Loberg at 9 is just short of the arbitrary 10. The top 4 combined for Wisconsin is still pretty far ahead of the top 4 for Nebraska. I feel that Atherton is barely moving the dial, just as she did at UNC. With the HITTERS Minnesota has coming in, I would think anyone would be able to put a ball up for them to hit for a point. Atherton will be depth and competition in practice. What if Shaffmaster isn't any good as a Freshman? This was always the biggest risk to Minnesota in 2020. Atherton puts a floor on this position such that I don't see this potentially being a material problem for the season.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 24, 2020 10:00:03 GMT -5
I feel that Atherton is barely moving the dial, just as she did at UNC. With the HITTERS Minnesota has coming in, I would think anyone would be able to put a ball up for them to hit for a point. Atherton will be depth and competition in practice. I agree that Atherton is likely depth and to add competitiveness to the gym. But that doesn't mean she can't move the needle. It takes a village and for the freshman to have such an experienced setter to mentor her could be invaluable to her development. As I've said before, as good as the Gophers could be this year, I think they'll be even better in 2021. Atherton could have a big impact without actually playing that much. Atherton could also move the dial the wrong way.
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Post by n00b on May 24, 2020 13:57:45 GMT -5
Nope - this is just a starting point, not a definitive answer. Northwestern has 22 on their roster vs. 16 for Illinois. Both have the same BI. Nebraska has 4 10-point players vs. 3 for Wisconsin and 2 for Minnesota and Penn State. I'd be curious to see how it'd alter the rankings if adjusted for roster size. Sounds like Nebraska would be top. You think the walkons on those teams are contributing meaningfully to the Blank Ink score? Although, I don't exactly remember to formula, I suppose they could be getting points for bringing in Maine's Player of the Year as a walkon.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on May 24, 2020 13:57:55 GMT -5
Looking like Pac12 challenge off the table. Can we see an extended ACC battle with more teams? Maybe an SEC home and home? Also the possibility of more mid-major OOC games? Thoughts? Any confirmation on this? I would think that it is very likely off the table this year. Maybe we get multiple matches of Neb v Creighton, Pitt v PSU, etc this year - sounds like regionalization may become a necessity.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 14:05:19 GMT -5
Looking like Pac12 challenge off the table. Can we see an extended ACC battle with more teams? Maybe an SEC home and home? Also the possibility of more mid-major OOC games? Thoughts? Any confirmation on this? I would think that it is very likely off the table this year. Maybe we get multiple matches of Neb v Creighton, Pitt v PSU, etc this year - sounds like regionalization may become a necessity. Pac 12 has imposed a 400 mile travel restriction for pre-conference.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 14:07:55 GMT -5
I'd be curious to see how it'd alter the rankings if adjusted for roster size. Sounds like Nebraska would be top. You think the walkons on those teams are contributing meaningfully to the Blank Ink score? Although, I don't exactly remember to formula, I suppose they could be getting points for bringing in Maine's Player of the Year as a walkon. Don't you get points for UA AA? If so I know several that were walk ons at top programs.
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