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Post by vballfreak808 on Sept 30, 2020 11:57:44 GMT -5
NC State vs Virginia Tech postponed due to lack of available Virginia Tech players
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Post by trojansc on Sept 30, 2020 11:59:51 GMT -5
The matches against Duke are also postponed.
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Post by bkedane on Sept 30, 2020 19:14:06 GMT -5
We obviously didnt see the same matches. Polina and Saada as well as both middles HAD to, did not elect to, roll shot or tip plenty of balls because the sets were trapped or too fast with Yelin trying to run a faster offense. I think that will get better as the season goes. Dont get me wrong, I like Karakasi, she is dynamic! Setting was good, both to the pins and the middles, in FBSO and in transition. They passed a 47% on the match, so there's room to improve there but Karakasi did a good job fooling the Pitt middles. Shemanova varies her shots and the off speed stuff worked well in the first match. Offensively Cuse looked good. UNC unfortunately were only in system on 39% of their attacks. Another disappointing year for the Tar Heels. Disappointing *year*? Based on passing stats for 2 matches? You might have missed the week on "significance" in basic stats class. UNC might have a terrible year and it might be because of reception. But stats for two matches are mostly meaningless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 19:19:17 GMT -5
Setting was good, both to the pins and the middles, in FBSO and in transition. They passed a 47% on the match, so there's room to improve there but Karakasi did a good job fooling the Pitt middles. Shemanova varies her shots and the off speed stuff worked well in the first match. Offensively Cuse looked good. UNC unfortunately were only in system on 39% of their attacks. Another disappointing year for the Tar Heels. Disappointing *year*? Based on passing stats for 2 matches? You might have missed the week on "significance" in basic stats class. UNC might have a terrible year and it might be because of reception. But stats for two matches are mostly meaningless. The data from two games isn't meaningless. It's the data from two games. Nothing more, nothing less. But I'm making the prediction based on watching the games. UNC's OHs have struggled passing (going back to last year) and they lack a terminal OH who can get kills OOS. Did you see something different watching the matches?
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Post by edub on Oct 1, 2020 8:36:02 GMT -5
When I watched the UNC-VT matches what jumped out was in the VT victory, UNC seemed to leave their OHs in the back row the entire time except for some late game subs for a DS. That def hurt them not only in serve receive but also just on defense. Don't know how many balls scored in the deep corners but it seemed to be a lot. Also, both teams seemed to actually serve the opposing libero a lot which I don't understand. UNC def struggled to terminate at the OH position. Some how they won the first set of game 1 while hitting below .080 as a team. That was def a tough match to watch on both teams part. Error city. VT def played better in the rematch. That's what I saw anyway.
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Post by superfan1 on Oct 1, 2020 8:55:25 GMT -5
When I watched the UNC-VT matches what jumped out was in the VT victory, UNC seemed to leave their OHs in the back row the entire time except for some late game subs for a DS. That def hurt them not only in serve receive but also just on defense. Don't know how many balls scored in the deep corners but it seemed to be a lot. Also, both teams seemed to actually serve the opposing libero a lot which I don't understand. UNC def struggled to terminate at the OH position. Some how they won the first set of game 1 while hitting below .080 as a team. That was def a tough match to watch on both teams part. Error city. VT def played better in the rematch. That's what I saw anyway. I think they're pretty close to using up all of their subs with the 6-2. Once they switch to a 5-1 tho they would be more free to sub out their OH's for a DS. It may be that the coaches think they OH's can rise to the occasion so they're leaving them in there to learn on the job.
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Post by MonicaGeller on Oct 1, 2020 9:12:04 GMT -5
When I watched the UNC-VT matches what jumped out was in the VT victory, UNC seemed to leave their OHs in the back row the entire time except for some late game subs for a DS. That def hurt them not only in serve receive but also just on defense. Don't know how many balls scored in the deep corners but it seemed to be a lot. Also, both teams seemed to actually serve the opposing libero a lot which I don't understand. UNC def struggled to terminate at the OH position. Some how they won the first set of game 1 while hitting below .080 as a team. That was def a tough match to watch on both teams part. Error city. VT def played better in the rematch. That's what I saw anyway. I think they're pretty close to using up all of their subs with the 6-2. Once they switch to a 5-1 tho they would be more free to sub out their OH's for a DS. It may be that the coaches think they OH's can rise to the occasion so they're leaving them in there to learn on the job. That could be part of it, but it could also be their defensive system. They play middle Back defense which means the OH stays middle back for defence and does not “swing” for coverage behind the setter. If the setter does not take a ball that is going to the corner with high hands, there is very little the middle back defender can do to reach that ball - they have a long way to go. VT did a great job targeting that corner and both OH hustled hard to get there.
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Post by volleyheels10 on Oct 1, 2020 9:32:41 GMT -5
a lot of the problem is a lack of solid system. As pointed out...whether you run a 5-1 or 6-2...that impacts your number of subs. I think that establishing people in roles and getting used to one another will help with the passing numbers. A lot of poor passes were lack of knowing who was taking what.
Joe has already said we need middle offense...our middles are terminal, and everyone else is not as consistent. If we cannot pass well, it will be a long season. if we do get our passing down, I think all 3 options plus a fast offense will help our pins get more seams and be more terminal.
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Post by edub on Oct 1, 2020 9:33:05 GMT -5
That sounds like a bad strategy then, right? At least based on the players playing those backrow positions. Everyone loves/wants the "hustle hard" mentality from their players but I need that hard hustle to result in touches and balls getting up. If the player is always coming up short, I need someone out there who's "hard hustle" results in plays being made. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by volleyheels10 on Oct 1, 2020 9:38:40 GMT -5
past 3 or 4 years, Joe and Co has been tweaking the line up for weeks. Pick a line up and pick a 5-1 or 6-2 and stop tweaking. Pick a system and develop it instead of going back and forth. That is the only way to build chemistry and establish roles. Buckner did well the first night on reception, but her transition defense is ehhhhh. Parker normally does well on defense. I think we need to determine DS roles as well. Stability benefits in so many ways.
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Post by bkedane on Oct 1, 2020 9:45:38 GMT -5
Disappointing *year*? Based on passing stats for 2 matches? You might have missed the week on "significance" in basic stats class. UNC might have a terrible year and it might be because of reception. But stats for two matches are mostly meaningless. The data from two games isn't meaningless. It's the data from two games. Nothing more, nothing less. But I'm making the prediction based on watching the games. UNC's OHs have struggled passing (going back to last year) and they lack a terminal OH who can get kills OOS. Did you see something different watching the matches? I saw some reception problems. And I agree that UNC, like most teams in the ACC, is not good out of system from the left side. UNC seems weak in that area even compared with other ACC teams. The reception data is statistically meaningless with a sample size that small. The original post sounded like a statistical point to me. If it was as you say a prediction then that is a different thing.
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Post by edub on Oct 1, 2020 10:17:40 GMT -5
Agreed on the OOS analysis for UNC. And I agree about the reception data with that small of a sample size. Serve receive for UNC def needs improvement but it wasn't all on the OHs. I mean, VT seemed to have no problem with serving the libero. And outside of serve receive, you have to be able to play defense. For instance, if your Libero or OH passes like Morgan Hentz in serve receive, guess what, we're not serving her. (no team has 2 Morgan Hentzs, actually, not even 1 Morgan Hentz anymore) So now, what's your Libero defense like? What's your OH defense like? You need players that can play defense and can score OOS b/c you're gonna be outta system most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 10:36:07 GMT -5
The data from two games isn't meaningless. It's the data from two games. Nothing more, nothing less. But I'm making the prediction based on watching the games. UNC's OHs have struggled passing (going back to last year) and they lack a terminal OH who can get kills OOS. Did you see something different watching the matches? I saw some reception problems. And I agree that UNC, like most teams in the ACC, is not good out of system from the left side. UNC seems weak in that area even compared with other ACC teams. The reception data is statistically meaningless with a sample size that small. The original post sounded like a statistical point to me. If it was as you say a prediction then that is a different thing. I apologize for not stating that it was a prediction. I can see how that might have been misleading. I think, as others have said, the Tar Heels success in 2020 will be dependant on remaining in system. I post the numbers because it's a quick way to convey relative performance for a player and I assume that most fans would prefer to see the data over the opinion of a random VT poster. But that doesn't mean I don't watch the film. Take Parker Austin, who has handled 647 passes for UNC. You'd agree that's a statistically significant sample size? In the two matches against VT, she had the same technique issues that plagued her last year. Will she have a higher grade than last year? I hope so! Does she look like a player than can pass a 2.3 over the course of a season? Not sure. Aziah Buckner only has 29 passing reps at UNC on tape but if you actually watch those reps in isolation you can certainly see the balls she's comfortable on and those she's not. I'd encourage you to watch if you disagree with my assessment. I'm not trying to be unfair to UNC so I'd be interested in your perspective if you think my prediction is unfounded. Regarding the ACC in general, I think there are a good number of terminal outsides; Shemanova, Bergmann, Lund, Lukianova, Dowd, Homan among others have all started well. Excited to see the next round of matches.
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Post by trainermch on Oct 2, 2020 19:50:54 GMT -5
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Post by vbjustice on Oct 2, 2020 20:33:57 GMT -5
I really love the teams embracing their social justice movements on the court. But if your team is going to have BLM on their face masks, there should not just be one BL on the team.
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