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Post by ironhammer on Mar 15, 2020 20:10:00 GMT -5
I think asking questions like this on an internet forum is a mistake. My understanding is that the current consensus is "we don't know." Lots of people are speculating, including some experts. Here's an analysis from an epidemiology professor that I found interesting. His bottom line answer is "probably not." ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/But seriously, do your own research. Why is it a mistake? You do know this is a discussion thread? What is the point of doing "your own research" if there is no consensus? You do realize people are busy and have work to do and don't have time to research 24/7, right? Seriously, if you have nothing of value to add, don't post. Yes, the link you cited is from an expert source, but there are other expert sources that say there might be an impact with warmer weather. So I am going to ask again, will warm summer weather dampen the spread?
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 15, 2020 20:11:45 GMT -5
I think asking questions like this on an internet forum is a mistake. My understanding is that the current consensus is "we don't know." Lots of people are speculating, including some experts. Here's an analysis from an epidemiology professor that I found interesting. His bottom line answer is "probably not." ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/But seriously, do your own research. I concur, very much TBD based upon what I've read. It will be interesting to see what the spread rate is in Hawaii because of its warm climate and higher UV (direct sunlight) rate. If spread rate is lower there, then that would point to some warm weather dampening of the spread. But why is it a mistake to even discuss this? I did not suggest there will be definitive answers, just for the purpose of discussion.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 15, 2020 20:20:40 GMT -5
Guess if you look at the spread rate in countries around the equator it'll give you an idea whether warm temperature can actually slow down the virus.
I would cross off Singapore because their containment system is just as if not more draconian than China's, and the population is less so its probably more manageable than others. Nothing against Singapore because I love that city-state, but it is what it is when it comes to gov't control. Read in a news article that if you lied about where you have been traveling overseas, the Singapore gov't can and will revoke your residency.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 15, 2020 20:26:12 GMT -5
Guess if you look at the spread rate in countries around the equator it'll give you an idea whether warm temperature can actually slow down the virus. I would cross off Singapore because their containment system is just as if not more draconian than China's, and the population is less so its probably more manageable than others. Nothing against Singapore because I love that city-state, but it is what it is when it comes to gov't control. Read in a news article that if you lied about where you have been traveling overseas, the Singapore gov't can and will revoke your residency. My understanding is that with Singapore, most of their population spend time indoors with air conditioning, so that might have neutralize any effect warmer weather will have on the virus.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 15, 2020 20:29:23 GMT -5
Hmmm....what do you make of this? www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tried-convince-german-scientists-make-coronavirus-vaccine-only-united-states-1492416 Donald Trump has reportedly attempted to convince a German research firm working toward a coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine to produce the life-saving treatment "only for the United States."
Reuters reported on Sunday that German government sources said that the Trump administration was attempting to secure access to a potential vaccine under development by the firm CureVac. The news agency noted that the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag had previously reported that a German government source had said "Trump was trying to secure the [CureVac] scientists' work exclusively, and would do anything to get a vaccine for the United States, 'but only for the United States.'"
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 15, 2020 20:31:53 GMT -5
Chinese foreign ministry now supports the claim the coronavirus was unleashed by the US military in Wuhan. Yeah I heard that on the news. And Beijing still wonders why other countries question their credibility. Iran believes it. Winnie the Pooh is really in trouble if they want to endorse such a claim, but the writing is on the wall. Couple of weeks ago when the Premier visited a housing complex in Wuhan residents were yelling what he is being shown is all fake. The management only allowed food delivery while the Premier was present and that's not always the case. Then just last week the Wuhan party leader announced that the public should show their appreciation, that they should thank Xi JingPing for how he handled the outbreak...nd he was shut down by China's netizens. So much that they actually pulled his announcement from public view. Such open defiance is rare. Only way for the government to recover is to make an absurd claim such as the US is responsible for the virus...stoke some nationalism. That's what the Communist Party always do when in trouble...redirect the anger at someone else, specially foreign government. When the Chinese and Japanese gov't were scuffling over the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands, China reminded the people of the Nanjing massacre which in turned stoked a lot of anti-Japanese feelings. Lots of Toyota being burned, boycott of Japanese businesses, etc. But I do hope the people sees through the BS.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 15, 2020 20:38:38 GMT -5
Hmmm....what do you make of this? www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tried-convince-german-scientists-make-coronavirus-vaccine-only-united-states-1492416 Donald Trump has reportedly attempted to convince a German research firm working toward a coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine to produce the life-saving treatment "only for the United States."
Reuters reported on Sunday that German government sources said that the Trump administration was attempting to secure access to a potential vaccine under development by the firm CureVac. The news agency noted that the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag had previously reported that a German government source had said "Trump was trying to secure the [CureVac] scientists' work exclusively, and would do anything to get a vaccine for the United States, 'but only for the United States.'"I'd take it with a shot of whiskey. Not sure what is real and what is fake news any more. Does it sound like something Trump would do? Eh!
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Post by volleylearner on Mar 15, 2020 21:24:13 GMT -5
Why is it a mistake? You do realize this is a discussion thread? What is the point of doing "your own research" if there is no consensus? Seriously, if you have nothing of value to add, don't post. The mistake was the way the question was formed: asking people on this forum about the effect of summer weather on the virus. If you had asked whether anyone has scientific knowledge or found authoritative resources on that question then I would have just ignored it (because I don't personally have any insights). But the way you phrased made it sound like you were either asking others to do the research for you or you just wanted to shoot the breeze on the topic. For this subject, I don't think that is appropriate. I feel it is really, really important for people to have accurate and in-depth information about the virus.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 15, 2020 21:36:41 GMT -5
Why is it a mistake? You do realize this is a discussion thread? What is the point of doing "your own research" if there is no consensus? Seriously, if you have nothing of value to add, don't post. The mistake was the way the question was formed: asking people on this forum about the effect of summer weather on the virus. If you had asked whether anyone has scientific knowledge or found authoritative resources on that question then I would have just ignored it (because I don't personally have any insights). But the way you phrased made it sound like you were either asking others to do the research for you or you just wanted to shoot the breeze on the topic. For this subject, I don't think that is appropriate. I feel it is really, really important for people to have accurate and in-depth information about the virus. Of course we want accurate information but trying to shut down the discussion is not going to help is it? You are splitting hairs here over my phrasing of the question, people here understand what I am trying to say, when there is no consensus over an issue (whether temperature will impact the outbreak), there is naturally some speculation, that is unavoidable. But most people here would have the common sense to know that it is speculation and not definitive answers.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 16, 2020 8:42:06 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 16, 2020 15:02:55 GMT -5
That was last week. This week he broadcast from an off-site location with no studio audience and spent the entire episode talking only about COVID-19, with no other subjects at all.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 16, 2020 15:16:05 GMT -5
For myself, I'm ambivalent about this virus. On the one hand, I want to get it so that my body develops an antibody for it. So, I've been doing the same things every day. Nothing has changed. On the other hand, it appears that you can get this virus at least twice, if you believe some data from China. Also, some folks are saying this virus is a combination of SARS and AIDS -- SARS because it attacks weak respiratory systems and AIDS because it also attacks the immune system. And it's not everybody. So, people still don't understand how this thing actually works. Others want to revisit the high number of flu deaths from late 2019-2020 because they may not be your garden variety flu but actually Covid-19.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 16, 2020 19:04:05 GMT -5
That was last week. This week he broadcast from an off-site location with no studio audience and spent the entire episode talking only about COVID-19, with no other subjects at all. Yeah, so?
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Post by preschooler on Mar 16, 2020 19:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by Mocha on Mar 16, 2020 20:58:11 GMT -5
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