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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 18, 2021 17:34:34 GMT -5
Yeah for W VA! I would think that it’s both. A smaller population does mean you can make a significant impact on % vaccinated sooner. Also W VA is one of the states with the largest network of independent pharmacies (note my biases as daughter owns an independent pharmacy not in W VA). She and I have chatted a lot about our different states processes and responses. She is also connected with a national network for independent pharmacies and keeps abreast of reports and discussion surrounding Covid-19. She thinks that the advantage in W VA is that these smaller independent pharmacies are very familiar with their local patients and are able to identify more quickly who were the most vulnerable in the community and reach out to them versus setting up an online system and waiting for those folks to contact them. This is the process they are taking as in her state it’s 1b and they are now as a smaller independent pharmacy designated as a “vaccinator” and will be receiving vaccines. They already have a list of their patients who fill the 1b criteria. Is there some inherent reason that an independent pharmacy would be better at getting vaccines in arms than a large chain? Late capitalism?
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Post by n00b on Jan 18, 2021 18:00:13 GMT -5
Is there some inherent reason that an independent pharmacy would be better at getting vaccines in arms than a large chain? Large usually implies more bureaucracy, more rules, fear of legal issues, etc. Possibly they eliminate more middle men. I haven't studied it carefully, but here in California we are so sloooooooowwwwwwwwwwww! Could be. But with scaling, there are other things that are easier. In the past few months I scheduled my flu shot through the Target app. And scheduled a drive thru COVID test at a CVS, also through their app. You might not get quality, personalized service, but I would’ve thought the big guys would’ve had an advantage when it came to volume (meaning volume at one location).
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Post by hammer on Jan 18, 2021 18:20:14 GMT -5
Large usually implies more bureaucracy, more rules, fear of legal issues, etc. Possibly they eliminate more middle men. I haven't studied it carefully, but here in California we are so sloooooooowwwwwwwwwwww! Could be. But with scaling, there are other things that are easier. In the past few months I scheduled my flu shot through the Target app. And scheduled a drive thru COVID test at a CVS, also through their app. You might not get quality, personalized service, but I would’ve thought the big guys would’ve had an advantage when it came to volume (meaning volume at one location). In late December I received this email message from my health care provider: By Spring, we hope to be able to offer a vaccine to our Stanford patients. We will start with those who have the highest medical risk. This includes patients over the age of 65, with chronic health conditions. We will also offer the vaccine to those at risk for spreading the virus more widely. This includes patients less than 25 years old. We will contact you when the vaccine is available. There is no waiting list you need to sign up for and no need to contact your doctor. We will reach out and notify you, by a MyHealth message or by mail, when you are eligible to receive the vaccine. This will be based on your age and health conditions and documented in your electronic health record. Stanford must follow public health and ethical guidelines set by outside organizations.It looks like it is going to be several months before I can get vaccinated.
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Post by preschooler on Jan 18, 2021 19:20:10 GMT -5
Yeah for W VA! I would think that it’s both. A smaller population does mean you can make a significant impact on % vaccinated sooner. Also W VA is one of the states with the largest network of independent pharmacies (note my biases as daughter owns an independent pharmacy not in W VA). She and I have chatted a lot about our different states processes and responses. She is also connected with a national network for independent pharmacies and keeps abreast of reports and discussion surrounding Covid-19. She thinks that the advantage in W VA is that these smaller independent pharmacies are very familiar with their local patients and are able to identify more quickly who were the most vulnerable in the community and reach out to them versus setting up an online system and waiting for those folks to contact them. This is the process they are taking as in her state it’s 1b and they are now as a smaller independent pharmacy designated as a “vaccinator” and will be receiving vaccines. They already have a list of their patients who fill the 1b criteria. Is there some inherent reason that an independent pharmacy would be better at getting vaccines in arms than a large chain? I think with smaller independently owned pharmacies it’s easier to make a decision and plan for your local smaller area. The advantages of the large chain is scale as someone else has mentioned. I have spent some limited time in W VA it seems not as densely populated as other states. I am told it is unusual in that it has a very large network of independent pharmacies that have strong professional network.
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Post by preschooler on Jan 18, 2021 19:42:05 GMT -5
I just want to say that we are unfortunately going to have to be patient. I think it was just about a year ago that the first lab confirmed Covid-19 patient was identified in the US. And despite all the mess I can’t believe that we actually have not one but two very effective vaccines- with another hopefully on deck. That is mind boggling really.
There isn’t currently enough doses for everyone who needs and wants one NOW! This isn’t a surprise and although manufacturing and delivery is ramping up its not there yet and won’t be for some months. Mass vaccine have taken place before but never to this scale and it is going to take some time. Ironically we were looking at our state plan and although I personally as a volunteer, and my kids as healthcare and military jobs are up next and in the line for shots my husband isn’t and actually is truly the last on the list. It is a bit disturbing to think that so please continue to mask social distance wash your hands 🙌.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 18, 2021 19:42:19 GMT -5
Could be. But with scaling, there are other things that are easier. In the past few months I scheduled my flu shot through the Target app. And scheduled a drive thru COVID test at a CVS, also through their app. You might not get quality, personalized service, but I would’ve thought the big guys would’ve had an advantage when it came to volume (meaning volume at one location). In late December I received this email message from my health care provider: By Spring, we hope to be able to offer a vaccine to our Stanford patients. We will start with those who have the highest medical risk. This includes patients over the age of 65, with chronic health conditions. We will also offer the vaccine to those at risk for spreading the virus more widely. This includes patients less than 25 years old. We will contact you when the vaccine is available. There is no waiting list you need to sign up for and no need to contact your doctor. We will reach out and notify you, by a MyHealth message or by mail, when you are eligible to receive the vaccine. This will be based on your age and health conditions and documented in your electronic health record. Stanford must follow public health and ethical guidelines set by outside organizations.It looks like it is going to be several months before I can get vaccinated. We're in phase 1b right now and our higher ed people are 1c so my wife (and possibly me, though it's murky) is probably getting hers by the end of next month. We're very much looking forward to it.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 18, 2021 19:49:22 GMT -5
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 18, 2021 20:08:19 GMT -5
I just want to say that we are unfortunately going to have to be patient. I think it was just about a year ago that the first lab confirmed Covid-19 patient was identified in the US. And despite all the mess I can’t believe that we actually have not one but two very effective vaccines- with another hopefully on deck. That is mind boggling really. Fauci thinks AstraZeneca’s vaccine may available soon too, so we’re looking at four overall. Here’s hoping AstraZeneca and J&J’s will provide additional protection against the COVID-19.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jan 19, 2021 8:02:58 GMT -5
In late December I received this email message from my health care provider: By Spring, we hope to be able to offer a vaccine to our Stanford patients. We will start with those who have the highest medical risk. This includes patients over the age of 65, with chronic health conditions. We will also offer the vaccine to those at risk for spreading the virus more widely. This includes patients less than 25 years old. We will contact you when the vaccine is available. There is no waiting list you need to sign up for and no need to contact your doctor. We will reach out and notify you, by a MyHealth message or by mail, when you are eligible to receive the vaccine. This will be based on your age and health conditions and documented in your electronic health record. Stanford must follow public health and ethical guidelines set by outside organizations.It looks like it is going to be several months before I can get vaccinated. We're in phase 1b right now and our higher ed people are 1c so my wife (and possibly me, though it's murky) is probably getting hers by the end of next month. We're very much looking forward to it. My 89 year old dad is 1b in Missouri (which is now where MO is at). I was over to visit him yesterday - and he doesn't have his vaccine scheduled. He said someone is going to call him or he can register online. Of course, he has no internet access - wouldn't know how to use it. We tried getting him scheduled yesterday - but the website was down. We will get him taken care of for him - although I live a couple hundred miles away. Not sure how seniors who don't have a family member or friend get through this. For me - it has always been a race to get my Dad vaccinated before he contracts it. It is not a priority for me to get a vaccine quickly.
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Post by preschooler on Jan 19, 2021 8:51:07 GMT -5
We're in phase 1b right now and our higher ed people are 1c so my wife (and possibly me, though it's murky) is probably getting hers by the end of next month. We're very much looking forward to it. My 89 year old dad is 1b in Missouri (which is now where MO is at). I was over to visit him yesterday - and he doesn't have his vaccine scheduled. He said someone is going to call him or he can register online. Of course, he has no internet access - wouldn't know how to use it. We tried getting him scheduled yesterday - but the website was down. We will get him taken care of for him - although I live a couple hundred miles away. Not sure how seniors who don't have a family member or friend get through this. For me - it has always been a race to get my Dad vaccinated before he contracts it. It is not a priority for me to get a vaccine quickly. It is a worry and I am glad your Dad has you! Persistence is going to be key. We have just opened up 1b here in WA and the older folks in the parish and neighborhood that we organized to help with shopping MD Apts etc. pretty much all are going to need assistance with navigation of online appointments and rides. The group of independent living seniors are a great often feisty bunch but not too internet savvy. Hopefully churches community center’s and the the friendly neighbor will reach out to their seniors and help them get scheduled.
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Post by akbar on Jan 19, 2021 10:17:13 GMT -5
400,000 dead.
It didn't have to be this way.
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Post by hammer on Jan 21, 2021 16:41:03 GMT -5
State Covid 19 Vaccine rate percentages (Jan 21, 2021 -- 1st shot):
Top ten:
1. Alaska 8.13 2. West Virginia 7.59 3. Connecticut 6.48 4. North Dakota 6.43 5. South Dakota 6.16 6. District of Columbia 6.15 7. New Mexico 5.86 8. Oklahoma 5.84 9. Vermont 5.81 10. Florida 5.24
Bottom ten:
1. Alabama 2.95 2. Nevada 3.11 3. Missouri 3.34 4. California 3.38 5. South Carolina 3.38 6. Idaho 3.42 7. Wisconsin 3.52 8. Illinois 3.57 9. Virginia 3.75 10. Minnesota 3.78
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 21, 2021 16:59:34 GMT -5
How many more Died since Joe took office? Isn’t that his responsibility? Those deaths are on his head.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 21, 2021 19:14:34 GMT -5
How many more Died since Joe took office? Isn’t that his responsibility? Those deaths are on his head. Very roughly it takes about two weeks for preventative measures to start to take effect and about two weeks to get sick enough to die. Very generously you can end Trump's count around Presidents' Day. At that point Trump will be closing in on 500,000 and Biden will be at zero.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 21:41:45 GMT -5
How many more Died since Joe took office? Isn’t that his responsibility? Those deaths are on his head.
You're smarter than that. You know damn well it took Donald Trump four full years to totally decimate the economy, kill 400,000 Americans from Covid, and kill another 5 with an insurrection. No one here expected him to accomplish all that in the first few months.
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