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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 19:25:42 GMT -5
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 11, 2020 20:26:21 GMT -5
30-39 year old in MN with no underlying health conditions is in critical condition. Uh-oh. While most who die seem to be elderly or otherwise have some sort of underlying medical condition that makes them subsceptible, being otherwise healthy can sometimes be what kills the patient. Look up what a "cytokine storm" is. The virus itself may cause little direct damage to cells in some people, but the immune system reacts almost like an autoimmune disorder or severe allergy. All the stuff the body is throwing may cause organ failure. In fact this (at a minor level) is why most people get sick from the common cold. At least with the common cold there's no particular benefit to throwing all this at a virus. The virus itself does almost no damage, and asymptomatic patients generally have the virus eliminated as fast as those with severe symptoms. The ophthalmologist in Wuhan who tried to blow the whistle on this illness and died was only in his 30s and was otherwise healthy. I heard some claims that he might have been exposed to a whole lot of patients with the illness, but it's not clear if that really matters. It could have very well been his immune system overreacting to something that wouldn't have otherwise killed him. Interesting you mention organ failure. My wife's brother in law's uncle came down with the COVID-19 and at one point they said he was experiencing organ failure...which kind of shocked me because I thought the virus basically attacked the lungs. This would explain why he was experiencing organ failure. Last I heard he is recovering, so they must have gotten it under control.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 20:37:00 GMT -5
While most who die seem to be elderly or otherwise have some sort of underlying medical condition that makes them subsceptible, being otherwise healthy can sometimes be what kills the patient. Look up what a "cytokine storm" is. The virus itself may cause little direct damage to cells in some people, but the immune system reacts almost like an autoimmune disorder or severe allergy. All the stuff the body is throwing may cause organ failure. In fact this (at a minor level) is why most people get sick from the common cold. At least with the common cold there's no particular benefit to throwing all this at a virus. The virus itself does almost no damage, and asymptomatic patients generally have the virus eliminated as fast as those with severe symptoms. The ophthalmologist in Wuhan who tried to blow the whistle on this illness and died was only in his 30s and was otherwise healthy. I heard some claims that he might have been exposed to a whole lot of patients with the illness, but it's not clear if that really matters. It could have very well been his immune system overreacting to something that wouldn't have otherwise killed him. Interesting you mention organ failure. My wife's brother in law's uncle came down with the COVID-19 and at one point they said he was experiencing organ failure...which kind of shocked me because I thought the virus basically attacked the lungs. This would explain why he was experiencing organ failure. Last I heard he is recovering, so they must have gotten it under control. I am glad he is recovering - the supportive care for patients can get very intensive. Eventually if you can’t breath and exchange gases you get acidosis which leads to organ failure and death. Acute acidosis need to be corrected pretty rapidly
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 11, 2020 20:44:11 GMT -5
I am glad he is recovering - the supportive care for patients can get very intensive. Eventually if you can’t breath and exchange gases you get acidosis which leads to organ failure and death. Acute acidosis need to be corrected pretty rapidly Sad part was they wouldn't let family see him because he was in ICU and quarantined. Had he passed away, they would have brought his body direct to be incinerated.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 22:32:53 GMT -5
I am glad he is recovering - the supportive care for patients can get very intensive. Eventually if you can’t breath and exchange gases you get acidosis which leads to organ failure and death. Acute acidosis need to be corrected pretty rapidly Sad part was they wouldn't let family see him because he was in ICU and quarantined. Had he passed away, they would have brought his body direct to be incinerated. Oh I miss read that I am sorry . That’s awful to die alone and it’s terrible to be the ones to have to make make and in force such restrictions. 🙏❤️🙏
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Post by azvb on Mar 11, 2020 22:40:46 GMT -5
May: Disneyland with the grandkids July: Lion King July/August: watch Olympics 24/7 August: Trip to Seattle/Vancouver (cruise) December: NYC trip
My 2020 looked really promising in January. Not so sure now.
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Post by hammer on Mar 11, 2020 23:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 23:24:18 GMT -5
There are good people gearing up to work on this. Meanwhile let’s do our part to work o it too cause it will take time
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 12, 2020 4:16:18 GMT -5
Sad part was they wouldn't let family see him because he was in ICU and quarantined. Had he passed away, they would have brought his body direct to be incinerated. Oh I miss read that I am sorry . That’s awful to die alone and it’s terrible to be the ones to have to make make and in force such restrictions. 🙏❤️🙏 Thanks for your concerns, and just checked with the family and they said their uncle has been released. Unfortunately, he suffered a minor stroke soon after. There is a superstition in the Chinese zodiac that, for example, if you were born in the year of the Rat (maybe not counting the year you were born in) and this year is also the year of the Rat, then you're in for some bad luck. Wonder if his uncle was born in the year of the Rat. Luckily, they said he should recover from the stroke.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 12, 2020 12:42:46 GMT -5
I am not sure what thread it was but someone asked about the numbers for gatherings 250 v 1000 This article links to a working paper used to make the decision here in WA apple.news/Ap5CTWzWjR46lM5ZMCZl7VA
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 12, 2020 20:35:53 GMT -5
How is the coronavirus impacting your lives so far? Are you working from home? Kids can't go to schools? Anyone has to deal with panic buying?
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 12, 2020 21:22:18 GMT -5
How is the coronavirus impacting your lives so far? Are working from home? Kids can't go to schools? Anyone has to deal with panic buying? It’s not impacting my life at all except I won’t get to watch men’s vb, Hawaii beach vb, and have to delay my visit to my aging parents (because if I have it, I don’t want to give it to them). My kids (all in their 20s and 30s) can’t visit me because we don’t want to infect each other, if either has it. This is not a problem as it allows me to play more video games. LOL! The only change is a change in mindset as I now view the people around me more suspiciously.
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Post by azvb on Mar 12, 2020 21:24:46 GMT -5
LDS church cancelled all meetings and activities world wide.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 13, 2020 2:40:07 GMT -5
How is the coronavirus impacting your lives so far? Are you working from home? Kids can't go to schools? Anyone has to deal with panic buying? Well since you asked apple.news/ApWT8u3XcSXet7zM4EFT9mw
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Post by preschooler on Mar 13, 2020 2:40:20 GMT -5
How is the coronavirus impacting your lives so far? Are you working from home? Kids can't go to schools? Anyone has to deal with panic buying? Well since you asked apple.news/ApWT8u3XcSXet7zM4EFT9mw
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