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Post by ironhammer on Mar 9, 2020 23:05:45 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 10, 2020 11:33:13 GMT -5
You know, the problem with "other things are worse" is that if you die of coronavirus, I doubt your last thoughts will be "well, at least I didn't die of swine flu or ebola!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 11:33:40 GMT -5
Harvard closing 3/15.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 10, 2020 21:15:39 GMT -5
You know, the problem with "other things are worse" is that if you die of coronavirus, I doubt your last thoughts will be "well, at least I didn't die of swine flu or ebola!" True.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 23:04:26 GMT -5
30-39 year old in MN with no underlying health conditions is in critical condition. Uh-oh.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 10, 2020 23:08:43 GMT -5
In many ways the problem is that our health system was already stretched very thin. 10 more nursing homes in the Seattle area with positive cases.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 23:13:55 GMT -5
Extremely important that we avoid massive spikes, overwhelming the system. This, retweeted by Terry Pettit,
is absolutely true.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 10, 2020 23:32:13 GMT -5
30-39 year old in MN with no underlying health conditions is in critical condition. Uh-oh. Probably undiscovered health condition, you know like in the movies where some guy goes to the hospital because of a sprained ankle and the doctors accidentally discover he’s got a malignant heart. Or that person was very weak to begin with. There are lots of weak people.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 11, 2020 0:04:25 GMT -5
30-39 year old in MN with no underlying health conditions is in critical condition. Uh-oh. Probably undiscovered health condition, you know like in the movies where some guy goes to the hospital because of a sprained ankle and the doctors accidentally discover he’s got a malignant heart. They can test for evil?
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 11, 2020 1:01:23 GMT -5
That would be ideal.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 9:28:06 GMT -5
Probably undiscovered health condition, you know like in the movies where some guy goes to the hospital because of a sprained ankle and the doctors accidentally discover he’s got a malignant heart. They can test for evil? Two patients hospitalized in Seattle area are in their 20 it can happen apple.news/A8XPuhlaJTI-h_r6BHS9bKgInteresting article it does point out how their are people getting better. It also points out how intense the response is and this is only the initial cluster.
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Post by BearClause on Mar 11, 2020 11:09:03 GMT -5
30-39 year old in MN with no underlying health conditions is in critical condition. Uh-oh. While most who die seem to be elderly or otherwise have some sort of underlying medical condition that makes them subsceptible, being otherwise healthy can sometimes be what kills the patient. Look up what a "cytokine storm" is. The virus itself may cause little direct damage to cells in some people, but the immune system reacts almost like an autoimmune disorder or severe allergy. All the stuff the body is throwing may cause organ failure. In fact this (at a minor level) is why most people get sick from the common cold. At least with the common cold there's no particular benefit to throwing all this at a virus. The virus itself does almost no damage, and asymptomatic patients generally have the virus eliminated as fast as those with severe symptoms. The ophthalmologist in Wuhan who tried to blow the whistle on this illness and died was only in his 30s and was otherwise healthy. I heard some claims that he might have been exposed to a whole lot of patients with the illness, but it's not clear if that really matters. It could have very well been his immune system overreacting to something that wouldn't have otherwise killed him.
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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 11:26:43 GMT -5
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Post by preschooler on Mar 11, 2020 11:28:51 GMT -5
30-39 year old in MN with no underlying health conditions is in critical condition. Uh-oh. While most who die seem to be elderly or otherwise have some sort of underlying medical condition that makes them subsceptible, being otherwise healthy can sometimes be what kills the patient. Look up what a "cytokine storm" is. The virus itself may cause little direct damage to cells in some people, but the immune system reacts almost like an autoimmune disorder or severe allergy. All the stuff the body is throwing may cause organ failure. In fact this (at a minor level) is why most people get sick from the common cold. At least with the common cold there's no particular benefit to throwing all this at a virus. The virus itself does almost no damage, and asymptomatic patients generally have the virus eliminated as fast as those with severe symptoms. The ophthalmologist in Wuhan who tried to blow the whistle on this illness and died was only in his 30s and was otherwise healthy. I heard some claims that he might have been exposed to a whole lot of patients with the illness, but it's not clear if that really matters. It could have very well been his immune system overreacting to something that wouldn't have otherwise killed him. That was the case with the Spanish flu of 1918 and the reason it primary victims were younger. Currently it doesn’t seem to be the case with covid-19
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 11, 2020 13:09:27 GMT -5
Remember when people used to call this the "Wuhan virus" and "Wuhan pneumonia"?
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