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Post by acrossthepond on Mar 30, 2020 1:50:26 GMT -5
Agree! I would rather see the best teams than the best individual players who aren't in sync as a team. Regarding guest2's comment of: "The Olympics and BVB generally are spectator sports designed to entertain. Why does there need to be an element of earning the bids over time if thats not necessary to determine the best teams." We know that individual beach volleyball tournaments differ widely in their results. If the best team always won, there would not have been so many different winners & so many different teams placing in the top 4. Especially look at all of the different winners on the women's side. A total of 5 tournaments (as beavis laid out above) would result in an insufficient sample size. Lesser teams who happened to get hot for 2 tournaments would qualify. Some of the true best teams would wind up in a different pool, or worse, not qualify. The other point is that the rule existed that Olympic qualification points would be earned for the 2019-2020 tournaments. How could you tell teams, "Just kidding! Through no fault of your own, we are stripping all of your points & making you start over. Good luck repeating your success over the last year in the next 5 tournaments." First I am not sure who these top teams are that have bad results for 5 tournament stretches (or at least results so bad that they would not be in the top 16 + regional qualifiers) But if a team cant show its merits in 5 events, then they dont deserve to qualify. The only concern would be injuries but this system would be better in that respect also since the injuries that kept Kira and Summer out for example, will be fine - presumably - by the time the event actually rolls around Ok, I get it. You like Kira, Summer and even Larissa and you now want to try to find a system which makes it possible to qualify. On the other hand you don't want some "have-beens" at the Olympics (why do you want Larissa in there? - She's clearly not within the top 2 Brazilian pairings any more). Furthermore you are willing so sacrifice teams that have shown over the last 1,5 years that they are capable of fnishing well enough and might get an injury at the wrong time for some of your favorite players who might get fit at the right time. That doesn't seem right to me. But back on topic: The only modification I could see coming is that they might change the number of required tournaments played together. Dependent on whether there will be enough tournaments the FIVB could lower the number of participations to 10(?). If they now get more tournaments into the qualification period than originally expected, I don't think they will change anything at all. By the way: Kira Walkenhorst hasn't played a tournament in 3 years. I wouldn't be sure at all that she starts off anywhere near where she left.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 30, 2020 3:07:32 GMT -5
First I am not sure who these top teams are that have bad results for 5 tournament stretches (or at least results so bad that they would not be in the top 16 + regional qualifiers) But if a team cant show its merits in 5 events, then they dont deserve to qualify. The only concern would be injuries but this system would be better in that respect also since the injuries that kept Kira and Summer out for example, will be fine - presumably - by the time the event actually rolls around Ok, I get it. You like Kira, Summer and even Larissa and you now want to try to find a system which makes it possible to qualify. On the other hand you don't want some "have-beens" at the Olympics (why do you want Larissa in there? - She's clearly not within the top 2 Brazilian pairings any more). Furthermore you are willing so sacrifice teams that have shown over the last 1,5 years that they are capable of fnishing well enough and might get an injury at the wrong time for some of your favorite players who might get fit at the right time. That doesn't seem right to me. But back on topic: The only modification I could see coming is that they might change the number of required tournaments played together. Dependent on whether there will be enough tournaments the FIVB could lower the number of participations to 10(?). If they now get more tournaments into the qualification period than originally expected, I don't think they will change anything at all. By the way: Kira Walkenhorst hasn't played a tournament in 3 years. I wouldn't be sure at all that she starts off anywhere near where she left. Id prefer Summer not qualify. Kerri is my favorite player and the Ateam will get in under any system. The point is that the qualifying system makes the tour duller, produces absurd results - Kerri risking permanent injury in 2015 for example - and adds nothing to the game
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