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Post by duckfan on May 7, 2020 19:21:12 GMT -5
I was certainly chirping that during the Pitt-Oregon match. That was one of the worst games they played last year. Everyone sucked. It got better. Not enough, but better. The real problem is that if you move Nuneviller back to lib, who is L2? I don’t think Williams or Lewis lit it up as OH last year offensively and both are steps down from her in defense and passing. Hopefully Borup is healthy this year and one of them develops enough to take over as OH1 the year after.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 19:39:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure you guys are gonna be set with Williams. She's a baller. Williams is no where near the passer that Nuneviller is. Brooke was light years ahead of Williams even when comparing at similar ages. Did I say she was? Madison Williams is going to be very good for the Longhorns.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 19:47:54 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion: Nuneviller should move back as the libero Naaaaah that's actually been a fairly voiced opinion for a while. Whether in the Oregon Trail thread or match threads, someone says it at least once. Moving Nuneviller creates a problem instead of solving one. Murphy is a solid libero. Brooke is the best OH2 on that roster. The real question is do the Ducks have a true OH1 on the roster?
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Post by trojansc on May 7, 2020 21:05:51 GMT -5
USC will be better this year even without Lanier. They return Botkin and Owes in the pins, a veteran setter, and an unknown but very good middle in Aleks Gryka, If Candice Denny returns to her old form, she could be a monster of MIDDLE OR OPPOSITE. Libero is still questionable..The upside is they dont have that stupid coach anymore.. USC needs to pass the ball. Something they haven’t been to do at an elite level since 2015 when Whittingham and Bricio were there.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 22:51:22 GMT -5
USC will be better this year even without Lanier. They return Botkin and Owes in the pins, a veteran setter, and an unknown but very good middle in Aleks Gryka, If Candice Denny returns to her old form, she could be a monster of MIDDLE OR OPPOSITE. Libero is still questionable..The upside is they dont have that stupid coach anymore.. USC needs to pass the ball. Something they haven’t been to do at an elite level since 2015 when Whittingham and Bricio were there. Well the Hastings kid will win the libero jersey...because she's currently projected to be the only libero on the roster. Keller has two scholarships available and is definitely short on ball control. Botkin improved as a passer in 2019 but Owes doesn't pass well (48%) and Weske/Denny will need a DS - that currently isn't on the roster. Losing Lanier obviously hurts offensively. Can a healthy Botkin get back to 2018 hitting (without also going back to 2018 passing)? Owes also didn't hit well (.186), so I'm not sold on her at OH2 but she might get the job by default - Schirmer isn't an option. Maybe Malaya Jones can win it? Middle is also an issue; Gross graduated and is a big loss (hit .377, blocked +24), Horin struggled in 2019 (hit .172, only +16 blocking). Can the Gryka kid fill in for Gross? I'm not sure. Even if Gryka steps in for Gross and Hastings comes in and does a solid job, Botkin passes like it's 2019 and hits like it's 2018 - basically taking over for Lanier... And all of that is, I think, expecting quite a lot... SC still isn't better than they were in 2019. Obviously the two scholarships could change things and I do expect Keller to turn things around in time, but this roster is full of holes and, unless he can get very good transfers in, very soon, I can't see them being much better in 2020.
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Post by blastingsand on May 8, 2020 2:44:59 GMT -5
I was certainly chirping that during the Pitt-Oregon match. Don't remind me. But the fanbase is sold on having the other girl as the libero period. As you can see from the responses on this page.
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Post by trojansc on May 8, 2020 3:19:19 GMT -5
Nuneviller was 2nd in kills for Oregon in 2019 after being the libero the year prior. She had just about 3 kills/per set. Also, she was 7th overall in the PAC in digs while playing all-around. That’s impressive. Obviously passing every single rotation; as well. Good serving as well.
Oregon’s issues were really everything but Nuneviller.
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Post by Disc808 on May 8, 2020 3:19:48 GMT -5
In Regards to Oregon lineup, are fans just more convinced that Nuneviller’s ball control trumps a duo of Borup, Laita, or Williams?
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Post by trojansc on May 8, 2020 3:25:18 GMT -5
It's crazy how anyone could look at Oregon in 2019 -- whether on paper or live... and say yeah! That girl putting up double-doubles practically every match! She's the problem!
Not the quality of the other pin hitters and their ability to receive serve and terminate. Not the injuries. Not the inexperienced setting.
If you put Shemanova, Pressley and Bannister on Oregon's team then yeah, it makes the most sense to put Nuneviller at libero. But that's not reality - and you have to create the best system for you team in every given rotation.
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Post by jwvolley on May 8, 2020 3:54:56 GMT -5
I didn't watch much of Oregon in 2019. Did their setter get noticeably better over the course of the season?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 9:33:40 GMT -5
Nuneviller was 2nd in kills for Oregon in 2019 after being the libero the year prior. She had just about 3 kills/per set. Also, she was 7th overall in the PAC in digs while playing all-around. That’s impressive. Obviously passing every single rotation; as well. Good serving as well. Oregon’s issues were really everything but Nuneviller. I agree with you but I think the public perception that she wasn't very good is a function of her being miscast as an OH1 (due to the lack of a true OH 1). She hit .179, while terminating 32% on nearly 1k swings. That's too much for her. Borup will definitely take some pressure off Nuneviller which I think will help Brooke's hitting numbers go up but Borup only terminated 32% and 30% of her swings in 2017 and 2018, so I'm not sure if the net impact will be that big.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 9:58:02 GMT -5
In Regards to Oregon lineup, are fans just more convinced that Nuneviller’s ball control trumps a duo of Borup, Laita, or Williams? Williams is still developing but was a disappointment for the #23 Senior Ace. She hit .115 and terminated just 28%. She also passed a 1.95 with 48% good pass. That's not good enough to improve this roster. Brooke is an OH2. In 2019 she passed a 2.29 with 58% good pass percentage. Those are good numbers for an OH. She hit .179, terminating about 31.8%. She is a better hitter than that IMO but was pushed into an OH1 role and had to carry the offense too much. Borup is actually very similar to Brooke statistically; 32.9% termination, hit .223 in 2018, although on a third of the balls. At UNC in 2017 she hit .174, terminating 30.2%. Good news; passed well in her last season: 2.23, 55.3% good pass, which is only a bit behind Nuneviller. Laita is very talented but her health is the question. Was it a knee? I'd love to see her in the OH1 spot because she can swing, but I'm sure she's hoping just to get a chance to play & compete. When you look at the roster though, overall it lacks a Drews, Lanier, May, Bajema etc. All of whom terminated 39% to 43% and can bail out a team when they're OOS. In a conference like the Pac, if you don't have one of those, it's tough to compete.
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Post by bigfan on May 8, 2020 10:31:34 GMT -5
My ranking prediction without thinking a TON for right now is 1. UCLA 2. Utah 3. Stanford 4. Washington 5. Cal 6. WSU 7. Arizona (I think they are gonna have a good year) 8. Oregon 9. USC (I cant put them higher without a decent lib and I’m scared for them without khalia to bail them out but I could easily see them being way higher if they figure it out) 10. Colorado 11. Arizona State 12 Oregon State Don’t crucify me pls Stanford and WSU will finish higher but this is a good prediction.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 10:34:05 GMT -5
My ranking prediction without thinking a TON for right now is 1. UCLA 2. Utah 3. Stanford 4. Washington 5. Cal 6. WSU 7. Arizona (I think they are gonna have a good year) 8. Oregon 9. USC (I cant put them higher without a decent lib and I’m scared for them without khalia to bail them out but I could easily see them being way higher if they figure it out) 10. Colorado 11. Arizona State 12 Oregon State Don’t crucify me pls Stanford and WSU will finish higher but this is a good prediction. I really feel stanford will not be better than Utah or UCLA next year. Definitely not UCLA. Maybe they could pass Utah. They have a lot of talent but with that many new faces on the floor. Idk.
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Post by bigfan on May 8, 2020 11:40:30 GMT -5
I really feel stanford will not be better than Utah or UCLA next year. Definitely not UCLA. Maybe they could pass Utah. They have a lot of talent but with that many new faces on the floor. Idk. Stanford has high school all americans who sat on their bench last season. Will Stanford Will they compete for the Pac-12 championship? Yes. UCLA 2 big questions. Keller was a huge piece in the team dynamics. He will be missed. Sealy. Will these players compete in spite of him?
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