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Post by haze on Jul 5, 2020 15:48:28 GMT -5
Yea I don't know I can honestly say I don't know much about Callahan. I see she's 33 years old, she did next to nothing on the AVP last year, and other than a ho-hum season in 2014 in what was likely a very watered down field she hasn't had any success at all whatsoever. I'm not real sure that Jones even made the best decision dumping Muno for her. I would have thought with Jones ability combined with results and potential she could have ended up with someone like Reeves. I would even say Hughes should have looked at her for the time being but considering she doesn't have any FIVB points it makes sense. We'll see, Jones/Callahan will get their chance\ and should look to have a decent opportunity.
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Post by Guest3 on Jul 5, 2020 16:37:04 GMT -5
Yea I don't know I can honestly say I don't know much about Callahan. I see she's 33 years old, she did next to nothing on the AVP last year, and other than a ho-hum season in 2014 in what was likely a very watered down field she hasn't had any success at all whatsoever. I'm not real sure that Jones even made the best decision dumping Muno for her. I would have thought with Jones ability combined with results and potential she could have ended up with someone like Reeves. I would even say Hughes should have looked at her for the time being but considering she doesn't have any FIVB points it makes sense. We'll see, Jones/Callahan will get their chance\ and should look to have a decent opportunity. Callahan beat Wilkerson, Claes, Hughes last season. You’re only as strong as your blocker. I don’t think Callahan ever had coaching before last season and the AVP was gone when she came out of college. A couple of years of uphill climbing and partner switching in her younger days and she went to coach at FSU. I think her recent marriage had a lot to do with her coming back to play and then moving to defender. Evie Matthews and Mykel Jenkins have seen something in her to invest the time and resources. Hyden is playing at 48, Walsh and April much older. I think age is over rated in beach. What’s not is the toll on the body and with 5 years off she’s much younger than her age. We will see.
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Post by Guest3 on Jul 5, 2020 16:39:43 GMT -5
I think you’re vastly underestimating Callahan. She switched to defender mid season. The games are won at the net. Dain and Kevin were impressed by her side out game and transition. At 6’2...she’s a force at the net and with power. They did go 6-1 in Cambodia beating Hughes and losing in 3, 13-15 to cannon and Reeves in what was an upset at the time. Ask Mewhither about Callahan. According to his podcast he’s practiced against her for 2 months and thinks she’s the one to watch I would think Traci beat Sara’s because of Sara’s partner discussion. I’ve been saying for years; you’re only as good as your blocker. The game is won at the net. Callahan outplayed Hughes in Hawaii when Hughes had Wheeler and In Cambodia when Hughes had Fendrick. I think each defender brings something a little different but the game is won at the net. Hughes was outstanding with Summer. I haven’t seen her outstanding with anyone else. That’s just what I saw. Anything can happen.
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Post by guest2 on Jul 6, 2020 4:16:12 GMT -5
Yea I don't know I can honestly say I don't know much about Callahan. I see she's 33 years old, she did next to nothing on the AVP last year, and other than a ho-hum season in 2014 in what was likely a very watered down field she hasn't had any success at all whatsoever. I'm not real sure that Jones even made the best decision dumping Muno for her. I would have thought with Jones ability combined with results and potential she could have ended up with someone like Reeves. I would even say Hughes should have looked at her for the time being but considering she doesn't have any FIVB points it makes sense. We'll see, Jones/Callahan will get their chance\ and should look to have a decent opportunity. By the way, research indicates barring injuries, babies, etc that women reach their athletic peak in their mid to late 30’s. Whereas, men reach theirs in their late 20’s I was just reading science that says; Of course it makes sense that older athletes are better. The advantages that accrue from experience and maturity are so great that if you can subtract physical decline from the equation — or push back that horizon — it makes sense that the best players are going to be 35 or 40. And I think that’s going to be more widespread, and we’re in for lots more 40-year-old world champions. If "science" says that, then the methodology should be re-examined. Lots more 40 year old world champs? Sorry remind me when there has been one 40 year old world champ? There hasn't even been a 35 year old world champ on the women's side in 20 years (Jackie Silva was the only 35 + to ever win it and she was 35) Likewise on the men's side, one time in history and it was Emmanuel. Pretty much every dynamic sport has shown conclusively that players over 35 are not anywhere close to as good as younger players. When a player has enjoyed success past 35, it has usually been some all time great like Kerri, Kareem, Emmanuel etc.
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Post by ajm on Jul 6, 2020 11:07:40 GMT -5
Most athletes excelling in their late 30s and 40s were also elite in their 20s. They aren’t typically late bloomers. One exception might be Rich Gannon, who became an MVP QB at age 37 after many years of being a replacement level backup. But for every Gannon there are hundreds of pro athletes who reach their peak by age 30.
It will be interesting to see if Callahan can make that late-career leap. She apparently has the advantage of a deep-pocketed sponsor. If she does rise up among the best US players, it might be a sign for USAV to consider a wider search when recruiting for its beach national team.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jul 6, 2020 12:32:37 GMT -5
Most athletes excelling in their late 30s and 40s were also elite in their 20s. They aren’t typically late bloomers. One exception might be Rich Gannon, who became an MVP QB at age 37 after many years of being a replacement level backup. But for every Gannon there are hundreds of pro athletes who reach their peak by age 30. It will be interesting to see if Callahan can make that late-career leap. She apparently has the advantage of a deep-pocketed sponsor. If she does rise up among the best US players, it might be a sign for USAV to consider a wider search when recruiting for its beach national team. Callahan was at one time part of USAV's national training group before dropping off the radar. Also, every reputable study I've read - and a fair number of them are readily available online - places female peak perfomance at under thirty years of age. Of course, there are variances by sport (gymnastics being the most prominent example), and advances in training, nutrition, and medical technology make it possible to extend an elite athlete's career. Even so, it's a remarkable claim to say women peak in their late 30's, and I'd be very interested in seeing supporting research.
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Post by KAP on Jul 6, 2020 13:30:21 GMT -5
are there wildcards to the qualifier? let the high school girls in - makes for a good story line and they are legit players I doubt they would give Maple/Kraft the wildcard. They could take enough prize money to cover their expenses, but with the way that the AVP is spreading the cash to all the players all the way through the qualifier, it's obvious that they are trying to give the pros a way to make some money this summer. Maple/Kraft can play in Juniors tournaments and beat up on girls their age. Where else are the pros going to be able to play and make money? Just showing up for all 3 events means $4500 for each player.
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Post by tamz on Jul 6, 2020 14:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by KAP on Jul 6, 2020 14:28:24 GMT -5
Yea I don't know I can honestly say I don't know much about Callahan. I see she's 33 years old, she did next to nothing on the AVP last year, and other than a ho-hum season in 2014 in what was likely a very watered down field she hasn't had any success at all whatsoever. I'm not real sure that Jones even made the best decision dumping Muno for her. I would have thought with Jones ability combined with results and potential she could have ended up with someone like Reeves. I would even say Hughes should have looked at her for the time being but considering she doesn't have any FIVB points it makes sense. We'll see, Jones/Callahan will get their chance\ and should look to have a decent opportunity. We will find our right off the bat who won the Jones/Muno breakup. Dowdy/Muno are Q2, and they will play the winner of Q7 Callahan/Jones vs. Q10 Van Zwieten/DiCello. If Chrissy and Traci have really been training more/harder than everyone else, they may have a leg up on the other teams to get out of a brutal qualifier like this. But 3 matches in 1 day is tough to pull off, especially when the margin of error is so slim between these teams. Cannon/Reeves, Quiggle/Wheeler, and Carico/Marciniak are on the other half of their bracket. I think you could make a case for any one of those 6 teams to get through. Then whoever does make it out of the Q will have either April/Alix or Sarah/Mel waiting for them. There aren't going to be any easy walk-over matches.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 6, 2020 14:39:12 GMT -5
Yea I don't know I can honestly say I don't know much about Callahan. I see she's 33 years old, she did next to nothing on the AVP last year, and other than a ho-hum season in 2014 in what was likely a very watered down field she hasn't had any success at all whatsoever. I'm not real sure that Jones even made the best decision dumping Muno for her. I would have thought with Jones ability combined with results and potential she could have ended up with someone like Reeves. I would even say Hughes should have looked at her for the time being but considering she doesn't have any FIVB points it makes sense. We'll see, Jones/Callahan will get their chance\ and should look to have a decent opportunity. We will find our right off the bat who won the Jones/Muno breakup. Dowdy/Muno are Q2, and they will play the winner of Q7 Callahan/Jones vs. Q10 Van Zwieten/DiCello. If Chrissy and Traci have really been training more/harder than everyone else, they may have a leg up on the other teams to get out of a brutal qualifier like this. But 3 matches in 1 day is tough to pull off, especially when the margin of error is so slim between these teams. Cannon/Reeves, Quiggle/Wheeler, and Carico/Marciniak are on the other half of their bracket. I think you could make a case for any one of those 6 teams to get through. Then whoever does make it out of the Q will have either April/Alix or Sarah/Mel waiting for them. There aren't going to be any easy walk-over matches. You got time to draw up the Q bracket again?
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Post by KAP on Jul 6, 2020 15:08:33 GMT -5
Women's Qualifier Bracket: (Subject to change) | Q1: Cook/Pardon |
| Q8: Turner/Hogan | Winner of 8 v 9 |
| Q9: Spieler/Knudsen |
| Advances to MD |
| Q4: Hildreth/Schermerhorn |
| Q5: Ponnet/Shaw | Winner of 5 v 12 |
| Q12: Tiegs/Wopat |
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| Q2: Dowdy/Muno |
| Q7: Jones/Callahan | Winner of 7 v 10 |
| Q10: Van Zwieten/DiCello |
| Advances to MD |
| Q3: Reeves/Cannon |
| Q6: Quiggle/Wheeler | Winner of 6 v 11 |
| Q11: Carico/Marciniak |
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Post by pnw_mark on Jul 6, 2020 15:26:34 GMT -5
Women's Qualifier Bracket: (Subject to change) | Q1: Cook/Pardon |
| Q8: Turner/Hogan | Winner of 8 v 9 |
| Q9: Spieler/Knudsen |
| Advances to MD |
| Q4: Hildreth/Schermerhorn |
| Q5: Ponnet/Shaw | Winner of 5 v 12 |
| Q12: Tiegs/Wopat |
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| Q2: Dowdy/Muno |
| Q7: Jones/Callahan | Winner of 7 v 10 |
| Q10: Van Zwieten/DiCello |
| Advances to MD |
| Q3: Reeves/Cannon |
| Q6: Quiggle/Wheeler | Winner of 6 v 11 |
| Q11: Carico/Marciniak |
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Sorry if missed a post but m When will the AVP test for Covid for this event?... seems like some teams may get bumped up if a main draw team has to withdraw.. or will they allow a sub if one person tests positive... Given what we have seen from MLB/NBA, gotta believe there are will be a few. ... and if a player tests positive then what about their partner.... and then the people they practiced with...
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 6, 2020 15:28:06 GMT -5
Women's Qualifier Bracket: (Subject to change) | Q1: Cook/Pardon |
| Q8: Turner/Hogan | Winner of 8 v 9 |
| Q9: Spieler/Knudsen |
| Advances to MD |
| Q4: Hildreth/Schermerhorn |
| Q5: Ponnet/Shaw | Winner of 5 v 12 |
| Q12: Tiegs/Wopat |
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| Q2: Dowdy/Muno |
| Q7: Jones/Callahan | Winner of 7 v 10 |
| Q10: Van Zwieten/DiCello |
| Advances to MD |
| Q3: Reeves/Cannon |
| Q6: Quiggle/Wheeler | Winner of 6 v 11 |
| Q11: Carico/Marciniak |
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Thanks KAP. So the top could be the finals rematch of Austin. The bottom looks wide open.
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Post by Guest3 on Jul 6, 2020 16:07:17 GMT -5
Women's Qualifier Bracket: (Subject to change) | Q1: Cook/Pardon |
| Q8: Turner/Hogan | Winner of 8 v 9 |
| Q9: Spieler/Knudsen |
| Advances to MD |
| Q4: Hildreth/Schermerhorn |
| Q5: Ponnet/Shaw | Winner of 5 v 12 |
| Q12: Tiegs/Wopat |
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| Q2: Dowdy/Muno |
| Q7: Jones/Callahan | Winner of 7 v 10 |
| Q10: Van Zwieten/DiCello |
| Advances to MD |
| Q3: Reeves/Cannon |
| Q6: Quiggle/Wheeler | Winner of 6 v 11 |
| Q11: Carico/Marciniak |
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Sorry if missed a post but m When will the AVP test for Covid for this event?... seems like some teams may get bumped up if a main draw team has to withdraw.. or will they allow a sub if one person tests positive... Given what we have seen from MLB/NBA, gotta believe there are will be a few. ... and if a player tests positive then what about their partner.... and then the people they practiced with... They get tested tomorrow morning . They will choose from one of the players on the list that came out. Those that signed up.
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Post by Guest3 on Jul 6, 2020 18:04:08 GMT -5
Women's Qualifier Bracket: (Subject to change) | Q1: Cook/Pardon |
| Q8: Turner/Hogan | Winner of 8 v 9 |
| Q9: Spieler/Knudsen |
| Advances to MD |
| Q4: Hildreth/Schermerhorn |
| Q5: Ponnet/Shaw | Winner of 5 v 12 |
| Q12: Tiegs/Wopat |
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| Q2: Dowdy/Muno |
| Q7: Jones/Callahan | Winner of 7 v 10 |
| Q10: Van Zwieten/DiCello |
| Advances to MD |
| Q3: Reeves/Cannon |
| Q6: Quiggle/Wheeler | Winner of 6 v 11 |
| Q11: Carico/Marciniak |
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Thanks KAP. So the top could be the finals rematch of Austin. The bottom looks wide open. That bottom bracket is so much tougher. You put, Dowdy, Reeves, or Callahan up top and I think they are favorites to win the top. From what I’ve observed on the beach...
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