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Post by sultanofswat on Jul 2, 2020 13:14:29 GMT -5
How does this affect the September 2nd or 3rd kids that are old for their grades? We had a kid that was an 8th grader that was forced to play at 15's. Lower level talent, so playing with her grade was absolutely beneficial. Does that change anything for those kids? Or will they still have to play up a grade? I need the chart!! Hahaha
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Post by vbfamily on Jul 2, 2020 13:16:51 GMT -5
Certainly there are clubs that will take advantage and push some kids to play "down" so they can have sophomores beating up on freshmen. Congrats to them, have as many medals as you want to make yourself feel better. This will benefit the lower level players more. It is pretty sad if a club tries to get an athlete to play down for the "clubs" benefit. I know we have had parents/athletes in the past with options that have asked to play down because they see a better opportunity for their daughter/them. It could be to help them mature (physically or emotionally), or they see a potential starting position on a top young team versus coming of the bench on their grade level top team. We have discussions about the negatives of playing down, but we leave the decision up to them. A good example of the benefits of this rule: this season we have a 2022 elite setter new to our club that had to play up due to her birthday. In a normal season it would have hurt her exposure to colleges--this year as we know, everyone had limited exposure. Just happy for the July/August birthdays that now can play with their class.
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Post by n00b on Jul 2, 2020 13:21:43 GMT -5
Certainly there are clubs that will take advantage and push some kids to play "down" so they can have sophomores beating up on freshmen. Congrats to them, have as many medals as you want to make yourself feel better. This will benefit the lower level players more. It is pretty sad if a club tries to get an athlete to play down for the "clubs" benefit. I know we have had parents/athletes in the past with options that have asked to play down because they see a better opportunity for their daughter/them. It could be to help them mature (physically or emotionally), or they see a potential starting position on a top young team versus coming of the bench on their grade level top team. We have discussions about the negatives of playing down, but we leave the decision up to them. A good example of the benefits of this rule: this season we have a 2022 elite setter new to our club that had to play up due to her birthday. In a normal season it would have hurt her exposure to colleges--this year as we know, everyone had limited exposure. Just happy for the July/August birthdays that now can play with their class. Usually (not always), the clubs interest and the athletes interest are the same. For example, if a club has two Big Ten caliber setters in the same age group and one is able to play down an age group, it benefits the kid to be able to run a 5-1, even if it is a lower age group.
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Post by vbfamily on Jul 2, 2020 14:37:30 GMT -5
It is pretty sad if a club tries to get an athlete to play down for the "clubs" benefit. I know we have had parents/athletes in the past with options that have asked to play down because they see a better opportunity for their daughter/them. It could be to help them mature (physically or emotionally), or they see a potential starting position on a top young team versus coming of the bench on their grade level top team. We have discussions about the negatives of playing down, but we leave the decision up to them. A good example of the benefits of this rule: this season we have a 2022 elite setter new to our club that had to play up due to her birthday. In a normal season it would have hurt her exposure to colleges--this year as we know, everyone had limited exposure. Just happy for the July/August birthdays that now can play with their class. Usually (not always), the clubs interest and the athletes interest are the same. For example, if a club has two Big Ten caliber setters in the same age group and one is able to play down an age group, it benefits the kid to be able to run a 5-1, even if it is a lower age group. Yes, that's why I said it would be sad if they "try to get an athlete"...but I know some athletes are not given the down side of playing down, just the upside. Each case needs to be looked at individually for +/-. I completely agree (especially for setters), if you have two great 5-1 setters, split them on two different age top teams and get them both on the court.
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Post by hac on Jul 4, 2020 22:38:25 GMT -5
Beach Volleyball season extends into July and August with this year's beach volleyball competition at the Junior Olympic Games in late July/early August. Some athletes will actually participate in an age group they are too old to participate in. Makes no sense.
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Post by vbjustice on Jul 4, 2020 23:56:54 GMT -5
...What irritates me is those who have a flexible birthday playing down if they’re older. No kidding. Or as they do in basketball a ton, reclassify so they can play down a level.
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