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Post by midwestvball1 on Jul 10, 2020 16:52:25 GMT -5
If WVB at the college level shifts to Spring sport season, will there be enough officials to cover all the events? I mean you need enough officials to cover Men's and Women's College matches at all the various levels. Gym time slots and match dates would be an interesting conflict with schools that have both sports.
If the Girl's High School Fall season across the country shifts, that would add to the these conflicts for CA, IL, PA, OH, etc.. I know WI and NY have had boys and girls compete in the Fall. But it could be a perfect storm if everything shifts to the Spring.
I am sure Junior Girl Club Programs would be greatly affected if the high school girl season shifts to the Spring.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Jul 10, 2020 18:00:27 GMT -5
Most def - in the spring you'd have a mix of girls juniors, women's NCAA, men's NCAA and the NCVF competitions! It will be crazy to staff everything!
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Post by tallvolley on Jul 10, 2020 20:08:53 GMT -5
It will never happen. These colleges are placating the students so they don’t take a gap year and keep spending money so the colleges can overpay the professors. You also have men’s basketball competing for gym time. It’s a mess. A logistical nightmare that can’t be resolved due to the complexities of each universities commitments. WVB is done. Over.
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Post by futurelinejudge on Jul 12, 2020 20:29:34 GMT -5
The official shortage is a problem. The gym shortage is a problem.
But my biggest concern is that the majority of D2/D3 schools share a coaching staff between men’s and women’s. So if they play the same season, schools and coaches are going to be dealing with a massive logistical nightmare that will spread coaching as thin as you could imagine.
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Post by babybacksets on Jul 21, 2020 17:46:17 GMT -5
It will never happen. These colleges are placating the students so they don’t take a gap year and keep spending money so the colleges can overpay the professors. You also have men’s basketball competing for gym time. It’s a mess. A logistical nightmare that can’t be resolved due to the complexities of each universities commitments. WVB is done. Over. overpay Administrative faculty members* |
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Post by jackson5vb on Jul 28, 2020 18:04:05 GMT -5
They could easily just put the same ref on the men's and women's matches back to back on same day if the school could schedule it that way.
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Post by cutshot818 on Jul 28, 2020 19:20:21 GMT -5
At least in SoCal, juniors girls and juniors boys will not be in direct conflict with whatever the high school seasons end up being. Right now, CIF State has projected boys/girls h.s. ball to go from mid-Dec to mid-Mar. SCVA will schedule and work around that, that is their working agreement with CIF.
As far as officiating shortages go, the problem isn't running concurrent boys/girls high school and college. You can massage the schedule to mitigate most of the conflicts and/or just cut down on non-league playdates and weekend tournaments (which CIF has already projected to do).
The real conflict for volleyball officials is running portions of the volleyball season in direct conflict with other sports that these officials do - h.s. and collegiate basketball, h.s. and collegiate soccer, softball, baseball, etc.
For the projected CIF volleyball seasons, I will guarantee that there will not be any volleyball matches scheduled on Friday nights that will directly conflict with foootball.
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Post by akbar on Jul 28, 2020 20:21:31 GMT -5
At least in SoCal, juniors girls and juniors boys will not be in direct conflict with whatever the high school seasons end up being. Right now, CIF State has projected boys/girls h.s. ball to go from mid-Dec to mid-Mar. SCVA will schedule and work around that, that is their working agreement with CIF. As far as officiating shortages go, the problem isn't running concurrent boys/girls high school and college. You can massage the schedule to mitigate most of the conflicts and/or just cut down on non-league playdates and weekend tournaments (which CIF has already projected to do). The real conflict for volleyball officials is running portions of the volleyball season in direct conflict with other sports that these officials do - h.s. and collegiate basketball, h.s. and collegiate soccer, softball, baseball, etc. For the projected CIF volleyball seasons, I will guarantee that there will not be any volleyball matches scheduled on Friday nights that will directly conflict with foootball. Everyone involved in sports will have to make adjustments and sacrifices. In HS going to 1 up ref and no line judges may have to be considered. I've seen many a good up ref handle it alone even though they had a down ref and linespeople (who were useless btw) |
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Post by cutshot818 on Jul 29, 2020 0:57:35 GMT -5
At least in SoCal, juniors girls and juniors boys will not be in direct conflict with whatever the high school seasons end up being. Right now, CIF State has projected boys/girls h.s. ball to go from mid-Dec to mid-Mar. SCVA will schedule and work around that, that is their working agreement with CIF. As far as officiating shortages go, the problem isn't running concurrent boys/girls high school and college. You can massage the schedule to mitigate most of the conflicts and/or just cut down on non-league playdates and weekend tournaments (which CIF has already projected to do). The real conflict for volleyball officials is running portions of the volleyball season in direct conflict with other sports that these officials do - h.s. and collegiate basketball, h.s. and collegiate soccer, softball, baseball, etc. For the projected CIF volleyball seasons, I will guarantee that there will not be any volleyball matches scheduled on Friday nights that will directly conflict with foootball. Everyone involved in sports will have to make adjustments and sacrifices. In HS going to 1 up ref and no line judges may have to be considered. I've seen many a good up ref handle it alone even though they had a down ref and linespeople (who were useless btw) Single official varsity matches are not likely, since that is an actual rule in the NFHS rulebook. If you're gonna modify an actual rule, it has to be approved by the state association, coordinated through the NFHS national committee. |
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Post by akbar on Jul 29, 2020 7:44:42 GMT -5
Everyone involved in sports will have to make adjustments and sacrifices. In HS going to 1 up ref and no line judges may have to be considered. I've seen many a good up ref handle it alone even though they had a down ref and linespeople (who were useless btw) Single official varsity matches are not likely, since that is an actual rule in the NFHS rulebook. If you're gonna modify an actual rule, it has to be approved by the state association, coordinated through the NFHS national committee. Noted....but these are extraordinary times and it's a pretty easy 1 year exception to make and pass. I can imagine we aren't the only sport who will face a referee shortage. It's really a matter of if we all want to make this work or not. I've had enough of myopic thinking from coaches and parents about season changes,adjustments and reductions....lets not open the door for Referee associations to complain too. Sidenote..... cutshot818 not saying you are suggesting that and I do appreciate your point. |
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