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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 11:07:21 GMT -5
Outside Hitter Thoughts: This group is directly impacted by the Libero issue. I would name Larson, Robinson, Hill, MBH, Foecke, Thompson, Plummer and 1 more though I haven't decided yet who it will be. I would travel Robinson, Foecke, Thompson and Plummer for the 1st three weeks. Robinson will see some time at Libero for sure. Larson, Hill and MBH would remain at home training with the A-Team until the home leg in week 4. I think you may want to take Foecke off your list.  I will when there is definitive proof that she is no longer playing. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 18, 2020 11:16:30 GMT -5
Option 1 Thoughts: This is my least favorite option. It gives no room for us, the fans, to see players on the cusp/new talent get any time on court. This is a very long tournament. I am not sure using the same roster the entire time is smart. However for the sake of this thread and this particular option.....I would bring this basically "Olympic" line-up for the entire tournament. Starters: S: Carlini L1: MBH M1: Ogbogu O: Drews L2: Larson M2: Akinradewo Lib: Robinson Bench: (S) Hancock, (OH) Hill, (OH/OPP) Thompson, (MB) Washington, (MB) Dixon, (OH/OPP) Plummer, (L) Hentz. I also realize that this option is very likely due to the fact that the team did not get to properly train in 2020. I still don't like this option. I. Couldn’t see a scenario other than injury where Poulter wouldn’t be on roster |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 11:31:12 GMT -5
Option 1 Thoughts: This is my least favorite option. It gives no room for us, the fans, to see players on the cusp/new talent get any time on court. This is a very long tournament. I am not sure using the same roster the entire time is smart. However for the sake of this thread and this particular option.....I would bring this basically "Olympic" line-up for the entire tournament. Starters: S: Carlini L1: MBH M1: Ogbogu O: Drews L2: Larson M2: Akinradewo Lib: Robinson Bench: (S) Hancock, (OH) Hill, (OH/OPP) Thompson, (MB) Washington, (MB) Dixon, (OH/OPP) Plummer, (L) Hentz. I also realize that this option is very likely due to the fact that the team did not get to properly train in 2020. I still don't like this option. I. Couldn’t see a scenario other than injury where Poulter wouldn’t be on roster It's just an example. I will say that while all of last season was crucial to her development, she was very streaky and by no means a shoe in for a roster spot. Hancock is very much in the conversation. That's why I don't like Option 1. We as fans wouldn't get to see why certain roster selections were made. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 11:32:23 GMT -5
Again I urge those of you who voted to list your rosters and what management option you would use and what you think Karch will use during this tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 12:09:20 GMT -5
I wanna see what Kendall white can bring to the table.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 18, 2020 12:17:31 GMT -5
I. Couldn’t see a scenario other than injury where Poulter wouldn’t be on roster It's just an example. I will say that while all of last season was crucial to her development, she was very streaky and by no means a shoe in for a roster spot. Hancock is very much in the conversation. That's why I don't like Option 1. We as fans wouldn't get to see why certain roster selections were made. None of the setters would be shoe ins, but after the end of last year would probably be 1 on depth chart and there would be a significant gap between her and third option Hancock. Again, based on play with NT. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 13:14:32 GMT -5
It's just an example. I will say that while all of last season was crucial to her development, she was very streaky and by no means a shoe in for a roster spot. Hancock is very much in the conversation. That's why I don't like Option 1. We as fans wouldn't get to see why certain roster selections were made. None of the setters would be shoe ins, but after the end of last year would probably be 1 on depth chart and there would be a significant gap between her and third option Hancock. Again, based on play with NT. The team looked very good under all three setters at various points in time during the 2019 season. To me, Carlini brings the most to the table but I still don't know if Poulter's run during the World Cup and NORCECA Championships was purely developmental or if she has indeed taken over the team. While I don't hate that idea, I just think that we might see the pressure of the OG's effect her more than it would Carlini or Hancock. I think you've got to go with experience ESPECIALLY at the setting position. I just feel like at this point in time, considering where the rest of the team is at headed into 2021, Poulter might be on the outside looking in. This is purely my opinion. Poulter will no doubt be consistently making rosters post Tokyo. This pro season should give us a better indication of where everyone is at. Carlini has to lead Turkish Airlines (THY) to a least a top 4 finish, maybe even a top 3 finish in the Turkish League. I think that is entirely possible. Poulter's challenge is to maintain Busto Arsizio's presence at the top of the Italian League and to not crash out in the Champions League given the teams likelihood of a favorable draw. Admittedly, she has the weakest support cast out of all three. Hancock has the most firepower and depth on Novara's roster and really should, on paper, land just below Conegliano this season in the Italian League. If they don't then I will have a different prediction moving forward. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 19, 2020 15:20:56 GMT -5
None of the setters would be shoe ins, but after the end of last year would probably be 1 on depth chart and there would be a significant gap between her and third option Hancock. Again, based on play with NT. The team looked very good under all three setters at various points in time during the 2019 season. To me, Carlini brings the most to the table but I still don't know if Poulter's run during the World Cup and NORCECA Championships was purely developmental or if she has indeed taken over the team. While I don't hate that idea, I just think that we might see the pressure of the OG's effect her more than it would Carlini or Hancock. I think you've got to go with experience ESPECIALLY at the setting position. I just feel like at this point in time, considering where the rest of the team is at headed into 2021, Poulter might be on the outside looking in. This is purely my opinion. Poulter will no doubt be consistently making rosters post Tokyo. This pro season should give us a better indication of where everyone is at. Carlini has to lead Turkish Airlines (THY) to a least a top 4 finish, maybe even a top 3 finish in the Turkish League. I think that is entirely possible. Poulter's challenge is to maintain Busto Arsizio's presence at the top of the Italian League and to not crash out in the Champions League given the teams likelihood of a favorable draw. Admittedly, she has the weakest support cast out of all three. Hancock has the most firepower and depth on Novara's roster and really should, on paper, land just below Conegliano this season in the Italian League. If they don't then I will have a different prediction moving forward. I respect your opinion but nothing about the rosters, playing time, and playing time in big matches last year suggest Poulter is on the outside looking in. I believe the NT see’s a decent size gap between Hancock and Carlini/Poulter. |
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Post by Reach on Jul 19, 2020 15:38:25 GMT -5
VNL will be warmup for Tokyo. I doubt we see many new faces.
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Post by Wichsen on Jul 19, 2020 17:46:35 GMT -5
VNL will be warmup for Tokyo. I doubt we see many new faces. It's exhausting if they'll send the final squad for tokyo to vnl! But i think they play either on the 1st 3 weeks or last weeks of vnl. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 18:44:00 GMT -5
VNL will be warmup for Tokyo. I doubt we see many new faces. I don't think new faces will be there either. I think the athletes listed on the teams website plus Butler and Hentz will be in the conversation. Maaaaybe some collegiate players. It is a long tournament and Karch will have to manage the roster somewhat. I don't see the same 14 players playing the entire tournament. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 18:50:11 GMT -5
The team looked very good under all three setters at various points in time during the 2019 season. To me, Carlini brings the most to the table but I still don't know if Poulter's run during the World Cup and NORCECA Championships was purely developmental or if she has indeed taken over the team. While I don't hate that idea, I just think that we might see the pressure of the OG's effect her more than it would Carlini or Hancock. I think you've got to go with experience ESPECIALLY at the setting position. I just feel like at this point in time, considering where the rest of the team is at headed into 2021, Poulter might be on the outside looking in. This is purely my opinion. Poulter will no doubt be consistently making rosters post Tokyo. This pro season should give us a better indication of where everyone is at. Carlini has to lead Turkish Airlines (THY) to a least a top 4 finish, maybe even a top 3 finish in the Turkish League. I think that is entirely possible. Poulter's challenge is to maintain Busto Arsizio's presence at the top of the Italian League and to not crash out in the Champions League given the teams likelihood of a favorable draw. Admittedly, she has the weakest support cast out of all three. Hancock has the most firepower and depth on Novara's roster and really should, on paper, land just below Conegliano this season in the Italian League. If they don't then I will have a different prediction moving forward. I respect your opinion but nothing about the rosters, playing time, and playing time in big matches last year suggest Poulter is on the outside looking in. I believe the NT see’s a decent size gap between Hancock and Carlini/Poulter. Yes Hancock is shorter but she is quicker and plays better in transition than Poulter does at the moment. Go back and watch the first two weeks of the 2019 VNL. Granted, Poulter improved through out the season but she will need to improve her physical conditioning in order to run down balls more and play better defense. Her blocking and defense need some work. Hancock is a blocking liability for certain but is very quick and makes smarter plays OOS and in transition which comes with more experience at this level. If Hancock could use her top spin serve she would be even more valuable but alas she cannot with the NT. Carlini's only weakness is setting to0 low to the middles on the A and B quick/not running the middles enough when the team is in system but that could be Karch's plan and not up to her which is ridiculous IMO. She is lights out setting over her head both on the slide and to the right pin (front AND back court). We shall just have to agree to disagree friend. I think Hancock is more in the conversation than people realize. Poulter was given plenty of training in a not so competitive international season. I still question whether she can deliver at the Olympics when the gauntlet is down and the team is really being tested which is a certainty in Pool B. |
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Post by Reach on Jul 19, 2020 20:35:08 GMT -5
I respect your opinion but nothing about the rosters, playing time, and playing time in big matches last year suggest Poulter is on the outside looking in. I believe the NT see’s a decent size gap between Hancock and Carlini/Poulter. Yes Hancock is shorter but she is quicker and plays better in transition than Poulter does at the moment. Go back and watch the first two weeks of the 2019 VNL. Granted, Poulter improved through out the season but she will need to improve her physical conditioning in order to run down balls more and play better defense. Her blocking and defense need some work. Hancock is a blocking liability for certain but is very quick and makes smarter plays OOS and in transition which comes with more experience at this level. If Hancock could use her top spin serve she would be even more valuable but alas she cannot with the NT. Carlini's only weakness is setting to0 low to the middles on the A and B quick/not running the middles enough when the team is in system but that could be Karch's plan and not up to her which is ridiculous IMO. She is lights out setting over her head both on the slide and to the right pin (front AND back court). We shall just have to agree to disagree friend. I think Hancock is more in the conversation than people realize. Poulter was given plenty of training in a not so competitive international season. I still question whether she can deliver at the Olympics when the gauntlet is down and the team is really being tested which is a certainty in Pool B. I respect your opinion but totally disagree. Poulter is light years ahead of Hancock is everything except defense. Transition is one of Poulters strength and maybe the reason she played a bit more than Carlini at the end of last year. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 19, 2020 21:05:12 GMT -5
I am very curious to know how Plummer does on the NT at the VNL.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jul 19, 2020 21:07:11 GMT -5
I may be in the minority, along with @toddyj, but I think Hancock is a solid option for a 2nd setter. Her one liability is blocking, but her overall game is solid. So is her setting -- she's been on the international scene for 5+ years. She brings experience and talent, even if it's only utilized in the double sub.
Poulter is definitely the future, but I don't hink she has to be now when she'll still be young (and much more experienced) heading into Paris.
Carlini/Hancock is a strong combination to have.
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