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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 12:08:11 GMT -5
D3 opening in a states Capital I wonder, was it easy for you to get this information or did you have to go on a Crusade to find it? UMHB? That’s not really in Austin but close enough. That would be quick turnover
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Post by dropkickbuffalo on Apr 27, 2021 12:13:16 GMT -5
I wonder, was it easy for you to get this information or did you have to go on a Crusade to find it? UMHB? That’s not really in Austin but close enough. That would be quick turnover I'm taking a guess it could be the same place where USAV 18 Nationals were this past weekend with the hints that were given.
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 27, 2021 12:44:01 GMT -5
Look at the final 8 from this season...
Skinner was the assistant at Nebraska and Wisconsin Eliott was as assistant and acting head coach at USC and a JV Coach at Pacific Palisades if I recall. Sheffield was the head coach at Dayton and Albany which was the worst team in the country when he got there. K. Cook was the assistant at Washington when they went 25-0 and has basically kept the train rolling as Head Coach. Mary Wise was the assistant at Kentucky but had been the head coach at Iowa or Iowa State when she was like 22. John Cook came to Nebraska from being head coach at Wisconsin, and was Terry Pettit's assistant at Nebraska before that. Fisher won an NAIA Championship at Concordia, after assistant coaching stops at Pacific, San Francisco, and Hawaii (Men). Dave Shondell was a high school and club coach before going to Purdue.
There are ALL SORTS of paths that can be successful. And all those same paths can be unsuccessful.
Sometimes the right person ends up at the right school, with the right staff and get lucky on a player or two and build something. But more often than not, that doesn't happen.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 27, 2021 12:53:06 GMT -5
My point wasn't that it's bad form to hire a top assistant, it's just a strange pattern from UVA.
"Let's hire the top assistant at Nebraska" "Well, that didn't work. Let's try the top assistant at Penn St." *interlude with continuation of that staff* "Well, that didn't work either. How about the top assistant at Florida?"
Seems like most places would mix up the approach at this point.
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Post by Phaedrus on Apr 27, 2021 13:09:27 GMT -5
Look at the final 8 from this season... Skinner was the assistant at Nebraska and Wisconsin Eliott was as assistant and acting head coach at USC and a JV Coach at Pacific Palisades if I recall. Sheffield was the head coach at Dayton and Albany which was the worst team in the country when he got there. K. Cook was the assistant at Washington when they went 25-0 and has basically kept the train rolling as Head Coach. Mary Wise was the assistant at Kentucky but had been the head coach at Iowa or Iowa State when she was like 22. John Cook came to Nebraska from being head coach at Wisconsin, and was Terry Pettit's assistant at Nebraska before that. Fisher won an NAIA Championship at Concordia, after assistant coaching stops at Pacific, San Francisco, and Hawaii (Men). Dave Shondell was a high school and club coach before going to Purdue. There are ALL SORTS of paths that can be successful. And all those same paths can be unsuccessful. Sometimes the right person ends up at the right school, with the right staff and get lucky on a player or two and build something. But more often than not, that doesn't happen. Ding ding ding ding. Winner winner.
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Post by sevb on Apr 27, 2021 14:07:16 GMT -5
My point wasn't that it's bad form to hire a top assistant, it's just a strange pattern from UVA. "Let's hire the top assistant at Nebraska" "Well, that didn't work. Let's try the top assistant at Penn St." *interlude with continuation of that staff* "Well, that didn't work either. How about the top assistant at Florida?" Seems like most places would mix up the approach at this point. But was Shannon the "top assistant"?
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Post by karellen on Apr 27, 2021 14:22:06 GMT -5
D3 opening in a states Capital If you are referring to Macalester in St Paul, MN ... This was posted several weeks ago and they have already been taking applications. So it is either a late lost to the NCAA page, or it is a repost.... In fact, AD rached out to other local coaches trying to get names of potential candidates about a month ago...maybe 2 months. AD was trying to find names of young female coaches who might be interested
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 15:14:32 GMT -5
D3 opening in a states Capital If you are referring to Macalester in St Paul, MN ... This was posted several weeks ago and they have already been taking applications. So it is either a late lost to the NCAA page, or it is a repost.... In fact, AD rached out to other local coaches trying to get names of potential candidates about a month ago...maybe 2 months I am not refering to Macalester
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Post by bbg95 on Apr 27, 2021 16:09:04 GMT -5
My point wasn't that it's bad form to hire a top assistant, it's just a strange pattern from UVA. "Let's hire the top assistant at Nebraska" "Well, that didn't work. Let's try the top assistant at Penn St." *interlude with continuation of that staff* "Well, that didn't work either. How about the top assistant at Florida?" Seems like most places would mix up the approach at this point. Again, Virginia has a new AD, so she will want to take her own approach, even if that means hiring a top assistant. And honestly, I think that just saying, "Well, the last two top assistants that my predecessor hired didn't work out, so I can't hire an assistant myself," is way too rigid. I could perhaps see that line of thinking if it was the same AD making all those decisions (though even there, it seems a bit inflexible). And it's not like we're talking about Nebraska football or Indiana basketball or something, where there is a ton of pressure to hire someone who will have a lot of success and be lauded by the media and fans at the time of the hire. Virginia volleyball isn't that. Even a modest amount of success for Wells at Virginia in the next several years will be counted as a win.
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Apr 27, 2021 16:19:14 GMT -5
My point wasn't that it's bad form to hire a top assistant, it's just a strange pattern from UVA. "Let's hire the top assistant at Nebraska" "Well, that didn't work. Let's try the top assistant at Penn St." *interlude with continuation of that staff* "Well, that didn't work either. How about the top assistant at Florida?" Seems like most places would mix up the approach at this point. But again, I don’t think there were many head coach options to choose from.
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Post by n00b on Apr 27, 2021 16:38:46 GMT -5
My point wasn't that it's bad form to hire a top assistant, it's just a strange pattern from UVA. "Let's hire the top assistant at Nebraska" "Well, that didn't work. Let's try the top assistant at Penn St." *interlude with continuation of that staff* "Well, that didn't work either. How about the top assistant at Florida?" Seems like most places would mix up the approach at this point. But again, I don’t think there were many head coach options to choose from. I guess I don't have any insider information here, but people like Don Metil, Jody Rogers, Lauren Steinbrecher, Allie Matters, Danijela Tomic, Leanne Williamson, Dawn Sullivan, Shaun Kupferberg, Ryan Meek seem to all be reasonable options. (Not necessarily disputing that Wells wasn't the best choice here, just that there aren't many head coach options. I'd think several of those coaches would jump at the opportunity.)
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Post by jumboshrimp on Apr 27, 2021 17:24:42 GMT -5
Several of these successful head coaches had phone interviews with the AD. She actually did a nice job of speaking with a variety of coaches (head and assistant).
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Post by nogame11 on Apr 27, 2021 17:51:24 GMT -5
If you are referring to Macalester in St Paul, MN ... This was posted several weeks ago and they have already been taking applications. So it is either a late lost to the NCAA page, or it is a repost.... In fact, AD rached out to other local coaches trying to get names of potential candidates about a month ago...maybe 2 months I am not refering to Macalester Man, I thought it was a pretty straightforward clue. Google is your friend, friends!
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Apr 27, 2021 17:57:22 GMT -5
But again, I don’t think there were many head coach options to choose from. I guess I don't have any insider information here, but people like Don Metil, Jody Rogers, Lauren Steinbrecher, Allie Matters, Danijela Tomic, Leanne Williamson, Dawn Sullivan, Shaun Kupferberg, Ryan Meek seem to all be reasonable options. (Not necessarily disputing that Wells wasn't the best choice here, just that there aren't many head coach options. I'd think several of those coaches would jump at the opportunity.) Of course there are head coaches that could take the job. Did all those people apply?
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Post by deepsouthfan on Apr 27, 2021 20:07:34 GMT -5
I guess I don't have any insider information here, but people like Don Metil, Jody Rogers, Lauren Steinbrecher, Allie Matters, Danijela Tomic, Leanne Williamson, Dawn Sullivan, Shaun Kupferberg, Ryan Meek seem to all be reasonable options. (Not necessarily disputing that Wells wasn't the best choice here, just that there aren't many head coach options. I'd think several of those coaches would jump at the opportunity.) Of course there are head coaches that could take the job. Did all those people apply? They might have applied but if they weren’t vetted by the search firm then they weren’t options at all
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