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Post by goblin on Feb 1, 2021 14:58:00 GMT -5
I was watching an old 2016 VB match with starters Franciscovich, Fey, Van Tilburg, Tui, Rosey, Mol and (drumroll) Patrick Gasman. Gawd he's been a starter for a looong time! We've gone 105-30 with him in the starting unit...not too shabby.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Feb 1, 2021 15:21:02 GMT -5
I was watching an old 2016 VB match with starters Franciscovich, Fey, Van Tilburg, Tui, Rosey, Mol and (drumroll) Patrick Gasman. Gawd he's been a starter for a looong time! We've gone 105-30 with him in the starting unit...not too shabby. Must have been 2017. Pat Gasman redshirted in 2016 and Tui was not on the team in 2016. Siki Zarkovic also would have been starting.
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Post by 808empath on Feb 1, 2021 19:57:31 GMT -5
I was watching an old 2016 VB match with starters Franciscovich, Fey, Van Tilburg, Tui, Rosey, Mol and (drumroll) Patrick Gasman. Gawd he's been a starter for a looong time! We've gone 105-30 with him in the starting unit...not too shabby. Must have been 2017. Pat Gasman redshirted in 2016 and Tui was not on the team in 2016. Siki Zarkovic also would have been starting. Ahhhhh. I miss seeing Siki. That guy was so good in all aspects of his game. He never did go on to play pro ball or did he?
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Post by goblin on Feb 2, 2021 3:12:36 GMT -5
He's a senior auditor working at Deloitte and Touche CPA Inc. He's been doing that since he earned his accounting degree. Not a glamor career but it pays the bills and there's a high demand for CPAs.
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Post by goblin on Feb 2, 2021 3:33:25 GMT -5
I was watching an old 2016 VB match with starters Franciscovich, Fey, Van Tilburg, Tui, Rosey, Mol and (drumroll) Patrick Gasman. Gawd he's been a starter for a looong time! We've gone 105-30 with him in the starting unit...not too shabby. Must have been 2017. Pat Gasman redshirted in 2016 and Tui was not on the team in 2016. Siki Zarkovic also would have been starting. You are correct my friend, if we carve out the 2016 win/loss stat and recompute for 2017-2020...his record as a 4 year starter
improves to an impressive 89-18. Of course, credit must be given to his awesome teammates both past and present. Rosey and Austin were splitting time at OH2 in the match that I watched. Good to see Austin on the UCLA 2021 roster.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Feb 2, 2021 17:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by 808empath on Feb 2, 2021 18:49:33 GMT -5
Turns 24 this season? Commits to UH at 17, exits right at 24? UH has been a significant adult life commitment, so kind of fitting. Lol no, he’s just a big fan of Kobe Bryant as he is big on work ethic and Kobe was the definition of that. Could say the same for Cowell in the men’s collegiate game. http://instagram.com/p/CKzjntlDHFm
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Post by babybacksets on Feb 2, 2021 21:41:38 GMT -5
Lol no, he’s just a big fan of Kobe Bryant as he is big on work ethic and Kobe was the definition of that. Could say the same for Cowell in the men’s collegiate game. http://instagr.am/p/CKzjntlDHFm Yea he was very active on social media after Bryants death and i knew prior to that he was a huge fan. Bryant also impacted the volleyball world in SoCal with his affiliated volleyball club that his daughter played for. Prep players were always psyched to see him at tournaments. Mistakes may have been made in his life, cheating isn’t something exclusive to him but he made his amends to the people that mattered and he doesn’t owe anything to some random D-Bag on volleytalk. Celebrate the best of a person’s character and understand that we are all flawed by nature as human beings.
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Post by noblesol on Feb 3, 2021 11:47:55 GMT -5
Yea he was very active on social media after Bryants death and i knew prior to that he was a huge fan. Bryant also impacted the volleyball world in SoCal with his affiliated volleyball club that his daughter played for. Prep players were always psyched to see him at tournaments. Mistakes may have been made in his life, cheating isn’t something exclusive to him but he made his amends to the people that mattered and he doesn’t owe anything to some random D-Bag on volleytalk. Celebrate the best of a person’s character and understand that we are all flawed by nature as human beings. I understand this discussion is painful. I'd prefer to drop it. I'd hoped to. I'll let this be my last post on the topic. It's clear from the posts that Bryant is looked up to by many. But, as a sports icon, he is a controversial lightning rod, and in my mind a strange choice to idolize. There are so many clearly more worthy of that status.
Cowell is a good kid, fresh and full of optimism. He wants to believe in his hero. But unlike him, I'm old as dirt and have seen much of the dirty underbelly of our world. And on VT, yes, just another random D-bag.
In my long life, I've known many sexual assault victims personally, some very close to me. One young woman I dated in my youth, shared with me she'd been left for dead in a snow bank years earlier, bleeding out, after a date rape. A car driving by spotted her, she was revived in the ambulance. I've been on a State court criminal jury, judging the guilt or innocence of a man charged with the rape of a minor. I didn't want that responsibility, but the judge had to keep dismissing members of the jury pool because so many of them had been subject to sexual assault or had family members who had been. In the military, I investigated or sat in judgement of many cases of sexual assault. Most of these very personal assault cases don't get adjudicated in a criminal court. Most sexual assaults don't ever get reported.
The criminal charges filed against Bryant, then dropped, were for sexual assault. But the facts of the case were compelling, and the victim was able to proceed civilly and get a settlement and a forced apology, and Bryant in exchange was able to get her silence going forward. In the 20 months up to the settlement the victim was subject to death threats from Bryant fans, according to her.
She was nineteen, working a shift in a hotel. She did not have a team of well paid lawyers and publicists working for her, as Bryant did, and as he did for the rest of his life. Advising him on how to stay out of jail, how to repair his relationship with his wife (a four million dollar rare rock helped), how to protect his multi-million dollar endorsements, how to re-create his public image. He had the backing of the powerful LA Lakers. He was their star player, the face of their organization. If they weighed they could keep him, they'd back him publicly and financially. And they did. This was long before the #MeToo movement. Bryant in today's environment, might have spent time in jail.
I recognize that Bryant walked a straighter narrower path afterwards. But his restitution to his victim was a forced apology and silence money. His restitution to his wife was a large expensive piece of jewelry and an apology. His restitution to his fans was to win basketball games. He did no time in jail. It's not for me to judge him. But I don't have to idolize him, and I won't. And, for the youth out there that do, well, know the whole story. And know that young kids someday may look at you for inspiration. Be worthy of it.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Feb 3, 2021 12:38:28 GMT -5
Yea he was very active on social media after Bryants death and i knew prior to that he was a huge fan. Bryant also impacted the volleyball world in SoCal with his affiliated volleyball club that his daughter played for. Prep players were always psyched to see him at tournaments. Mistakes may have been made in his life, cheating isn’t something exclusive to him but he made his amends to the people that mattered and he doesn’t owe anything to some random D-Bag on volleytalk. Celebrate the best of a person’s character and understand that we are all flawed by nature as human beings. I understand this discussion is painful. I'd prefer to drop it. I'd hoped to. I'll let this be my last post on the topic. It's clear from the posts that Bryant is looked up to by many. But, as a sports icon, he is a controversial lightning rod, and in my mind a strange choice to idolize. There are so many clearly more worthy of that status.
Cowell is a good kid, fresh and full of optimism. He wants to believe in his hero. But unlike him, I'm old as dirt and have seen much of the dirty underbelly of our world. And on VT, yes, just another random D-bag.
In my long life, I've known many sexual assault victims personally, some very close to me. One young woman I dated in my youth, shared with me she'd been left for dead in a snow bank years earlier, bleeding out, after a date rape. A car driving by spotted her, she was revived in the ambulance. I've been on a State court criminal jury, judging the guilt or innocence of a man charged with the rape of a minor. I didn't want that responsibility, but the judge had to keep dismissing members of the jury pool because so many of them had been subject to sexual assault or had family members who had been. In the military, I investigated or sat in judgement of many cases of sexual assault. Most of these very personal assault cases don't get adjudicated in a criminal court. Most sexual assaults don't ever get reported.
The criminal charges filed against Bryant, then dropped, were for sexual assault. But the facts of the case were compelling, and the victim was able to proceed civilly and get a settlement and a forced apology, and Bryant in exchange was able to get her silence going forward. In the 20 months up to the settlement the victim was subject to death threats from Bryant fans, according to her.
She was nineteen, working a shift in a hotel. She did not have a team of well paid lawyers and publicists working for her, as Bryant did, and as he did for the rest of his life. Advising him on how to stay out of jail, how to repair his relationship with his wife (a four million dollar rare rock helped), how to protect his multi-million dollar endorsements, how to re-create his public image. He had the backing of the powerful LA Lakers. He was their star player, the face of their organization. If they weighed they could keep him, they'd back him publicly and financially. And they did. This was long before the #MeToo movement. Bryant in today's environment, might have spent time in jail.
I recognize that Bryant walked a straighter narrower path afterwards. But his restitution to his victim was a forced apology and silence money. His restitution to his wife was a large expensive piece of jewelry and an apology. His restitution to his fans was to win basketball games. He did no time in jail. It's not for me to judge him. But I don't have to idolize him, and I won't. And, for the youth out there that do, well, know the whole story. And know that young kids someday may look at you for inspiration. Be worthy of it.
Again seriously can you stop! What part of that did you not understand the first time. If you want to discuss this make your own thread. Nobody here wants to hear this or is interested.
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Post by lipton on Feb 3, 2021 12:49:34 GMT -5
it is true, you don't have to idolize a rapist and petulant egomaniac. It's even truer that you don't need to post about it in a thread about HAWAI'I VOLLEYBALL. There are better places for your political and social opinions. That's all people are trying to say, so clean out those older than dirt ears and hear the message.
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Post by VT Five-0 on Feb 3, 2021 15:11:15 GMT -5
Enough. Move on!!
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Post by 808empath on Feb 3, 2021 21:21:58 GMT -5
I wanna see who wins out the setter position & if Humler retains his starting outside hitter position.
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Post by wmiv1895 on Feb 3, 2021 21:33:54 GMT -5
I want to see a schedule. Anyone with inside info?
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Post by berry808 on Feb 3, 2021 22:11:39 GMT -5
I want to know the schedule too. Thought I heard Charlie Wade say they are starting where they left off playing at CSUN, but things may have changed. I wonder if any of the matches will be televised. I’ve been a season ticket holder, so I’ll need to subscribe to the channel. Does anyone know if any UH sports are currently being televised? Like UH basketball?
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