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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 4, 2022 22:37:48 GMT -5
Yes, Prior is the answer at Opp. I think with her on the floor for the rest of the year, BYU will start to find their way. Passing is aided by blocking which escapes a surprising number of coaches. This is a team in need of consistency and I would leave the lineup alone now. If Callahan gets better, don't replace Prior. Bower will hopefully come back but I am not complaining about Taylor in the meantime. It just goes to show everyone how much opportunity was missed by not playing Meyer last season at all. Just the whole Prior issue is perplexing because if you have her in practice for 6 months you have to see the potential and athletic ability in her. Grimmer hasn't been doing the job all year, yet rather than put Prior into the matches, the decision is for Callahan? I just don't know what is going on in the coaches room when these huge issues are discussed. Are all 5 coaches in agreement or is there just one coach who over-rides the others. Well, we know that USF is a team that is on the rise and I suspect over the next 2 years they will make the NCAA tourney. That coach has had just 1 recruiting class of his own and had 0 wins last year. They aren't as good as BYU but the trajectory is high and it won't be long before they challenge for a WCC title. BYU should be a tourney team looking out into the future but they will need to get more athletes and also make better judgement calls on the upside of an athlete. Recruiting the right athletes is key. Hope they can do it.
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Post by azvb on Nov 4, 2022 23:30:28 GMT -5
Anyone know where David Hyte has been? He wasn’t on the bench for the last two matches.
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Post by mintonetteman on Nov 5, 2022 10:05:47 GMT -5
Karma...you do appreciate the difference between playing WSU, Utah, Duke, Pitt and even Utah State to the WCC conference teams (sans USD, Pepp and LMU). You really think that is the best "we've played all season was WSU....watching that game was a huge drop off. Big 12 is going our BYU bubble world.
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Post by kk1971 on Nov 5, 2022 16:45:25 GMT -5
Just want to say that this is a much better team with Prior on the floor. Particularly today in rotations where Gneiting and Prior on on the front together, that is a far better block than we have seen all year. Add in the fact that Prior is so much more terminal than we have been getting on the RS Combine this with my continued surprise at how high of a level our offense is able to continue playing with Abby Taylor in there, if Prior continues to learn quickly on the job, BYU becomes quite a bit more dangerous on the attack. As we all pointed out ad nauseum, it may not matter against the better teams due to passing and defensive lapses on the backline, but if somehow we shore that up, this just became a more dangerous team IMO.
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 5, 2022 22:42:22 GMT -5
Anyone know where David Hyte has been? He wasn’t on the bench for the last two matches. That is a good question and one that I don't have an answer to. A lot of collaboration between Neeley and Olmstead during matches but no Hyte. Maybe someone else knows the answer? |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 5, 2022 23:15:50 GMT -5
Just want to say that this is a much better team with Prior on the floor. Particularly today in rotations where Gneiting and Prior on on the front together, that is a far better block than we have seen all year. Add in the fact that Prior is so much more terminal than we have been getting on the RS Combine this with my continued surprise at how high of a level our offense is able to continue playing with Abby Taylor in there, if Prior continues to learn quickly on the job, BYU becomes quite a bit more dangerous on the attack. As we all pointed out ad nauseum, it may not matter against the better teams due to passing and defensive lapses on the backline, but if somehow we shore that up, this just became a more dangerous team IMO. For sure I agree with you! It just takes a little stretch to get a team hot and confident. Prior is a big presence in both blocking (which she will only get better at the longer she is at OPP) and her hitting ability. I don't think Prior has ever played Opp before. She is going to be a star MB before her career is over, but BYU has 2 choices: 1) Leave Prior on the bench and waste her year of eligibility while playing a combo of Callahan or Grimmer at Opp OR 2) Let Prior make mistakes at Opp and gradually get her more comfortable out there. I don't think BYU makes an impact in the NCAA tourney with Grimmer at Opp (and may not even make the tourney). Callahan is probably a 15% upgrade from Grimmer and BYU probably gets a round of 64 win in the tourney and then gets put out. However, Prior will not do BYU any worse than either of the other 2 scenarios but she does give an upside that neither of the other two players bring. I do think there is a real possibility that Prior gets confident and starts to give the team some added energy. If that happens, we could see a team start to find its footing and surprise us into a Sweet 16 appearance. I can guarantee that USF didn't anticipate Prior's impact when scouting and if she hadn't played I think BYU loses that match. I hope that Heather just leaves things alone and encourages the players to elevate their game. Taylor does have some game in her and she is more accurate in placement, but Bower is a better overall setter. Bower may be out for the season. Hopefully not. But if Taylor gets more comfortable with the offense and her D improves, I might be hesitant to change her out at this point. BYU's mental makeup is so fragile right now I would just leave things alone for a number of reasons. We shall see what the rest of the WCC season looks like and especially the USD match. If Taylor brings better numbers against USD than the Bower lead first meeting, that would cement my decision to leave Bower in a backup role if she is able to play healthy. Frankly, I wouldn't rule out a switch between Bower and Grimmer in the backrow. Bower is a better passer and having her on the floor with Taylor (if Whitney is healthy) would be a troubling scenario for opponents to prepare for. This type of change would put a whole new wrinkle into the weakness of the passing/backrow of BYU. I would try it if Bower gets healthy. I see no downside and lots of upside if Heather goes that direction. Bower would have to take one for the team, but I think she would do it. |
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 5, 2022 23:26:26 GMT -5
vvv and marnvbc2 --pretty sure I see Lee differently--and possibly Little--than you do. BYU traditionally, at least IMO, prizes height and size over quickness for their MB. An Allie Hakes, therefore, is prioritized over a Leilani Dodson. Debate that all you want (and you would have some sympathy from me) but I am pretty sure Lee is coming in as an OH or Opp, and not a MB. And if she comes in as an OH, respectfully she won't touch Livingston, probably Stowell, and even Little, IMO. She doesn't even hit over .300 on the Utah High School scene. She just isn't tall or experienced enough to hit out of system balls consistently well enough to be dangerous--at least not yet. I agree that she can jump out of the gym and pound the ball straight down, but that presupposes a good pass and a good set, and at least a somewhat in rhythm swing. However, she could be an interesting switch off with Callahan next year on the Right Side, and if that is what you mean by start, well then maybe we agree. To be clear, I think Lee is the kind of athlete that BYU often doesn't get but ends up playing against that gives us fits with their quickness and athletic ability. I am way excited to have her as a Cougar, and will have a lot more to say when I do my summer recruiting synopsis. That said, I believe she will be a work in progress and with time can get to where you describe, but definitely don't expect her to start next year. And if she does, it will only be on the right side rotating with Callahan. My .02. And not sure where this bashing of Little is coming from, but you can't convince me she isn't the best outside prospect BYU has had in a long time. She jumps well, has high point of contact, has tremendous savvy and experience, and on a some what mediocre Vista Murrieta team single handedly has carried them to the semi's of the Division 2 playoffs (and won the California state playoff as a frosh while being named Prepvolleyball's Freshman of the year nationally). Is she as good on the back row as she is on the front row? No, she's not, yet. But she does just fine and will hold her own, may be more dangerous out of the back row than Livingston right out of the gates next year on the attack, and should be a 6 rotation player for BYU no later than when Livingston graduates. If she beats out the other 02s and rotates with Livingston from day 1, I won't be surprised. Watch and see. Little just carried her team to a title behind a 33-kill performance in the final. |
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Post by azvb on Nov 6, 2022 11:41:01 GMT -5
Wonder if Whitney Bower can pass? I was thinking the other night if we have a decent setter next year, let Bower play libero.
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 6, 2022 11:43:51 GMT -5
vvv and marnvbc2 --pretty sure I see Lee differently--and possibly Little--than you do. BYU traditionally, at least IMO, prizes height and size over quickness for their MB. An Allie Hakes, therefore, is prioritized over a Leilani Dodson. Debate that all you want (and you would have some sympathy from me) but I am pretty sure Lee is coming in as an OH or Opp, and not a MB. And if she comes in as an OH, respectfully she won't touch Livingston, probably Stowell, and even Little, IMO. She doesn't even hit over .300 on the Utah High School scene. She just isn't tall or experienced enough to hit out of system balls consistently well enough to be dangerous--at least not yet. I agree that she can jump out of the gym and pound the ball straight down, but that presupposes a good pass and a good set, and at least a somewhat in rhythm swing. However, she could be an interesting switch off with Callahan next year on the Right Side, and if that is what you mean by start, well then maybe we agree. To be clear, I think Lee is the kind of athlete that BYU often doesn't get but ends up playing against that gives us fits with their quickness and athletic ability. I am way excited to have her as a Cougar, and will have a lot more to say when I do my summer recruiting synopsis. That said, I believe she will be a work in progress and with time can get to where you describe, but definitely don't expect her to start next year. And if she does, it will only be on the right side rotating with Callahan. My .02. And not sure where this bashing of Little is coming from, but you can't convince me she isn't the best outside prospect BYU has had in a long time. She jumps well, has high point of contact, has tremendous savvy and experience, and on a some what mediocre Vista Murrieta team single handedly has carried them to the semi's of the Division 2 playoffs (and won the California state playoff as a frosh while being named Prepvolleyball's Freshman of the year nationally). Is she as good on the back row as she is on the front row? No, she's not, yet. But she does just fine and will hold her own, may be more dangerous out of the back row than Livingston right out of the gates next year on the attack, and should be a 6 rotation player for BYU no later than when Livingston graduates. If she beats out the other 02s and rotates with Livingston from day 1, I won't be surprised. Watch and see. Little just carried her team to a title behind a 33-kill performance in the final. Actually, looks like it was 35 kills (8.75 k/s) on a .400 hitting percentage according to Claire's MaxPreps page. There was also a highlight video. |
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Post by vvv on Nov 7, 2022 2:54:05 GMT -5
Wow!! That is amazing- 35 kills and a title for Little. Took my daughter to the Utah State tournament and I must say.... I was very impressed with Miller, especially in the championship. She should definitely be able to contribute to the back row. Lee was amazing and I can totally see her contributing as an OPP. Damuni was legit and wow what an athlete. She plays both front and back row with confidence. The championship was between Timpview ( Damuni) and Mountainview( Lee and Miller). Timpview took the championship in an impressive fashion.
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Post by kk1971 on Nov 7, 2022 7:48:35 GMT -5
FYI that Claire Little and Vista Murrieta are back at it on Tuesday night against Allemany in the first round of the "state playoffs." Pretty sure I don't understand how the CIF championships go. Open division is obviously for the top 16 teams, but not sure why Division 1 teams get to mostly play each other again and winners of other sections don't play other section winners? Confusing.
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Post by mintonetteman on Nov 7, 2022 12:03:12 GMT -5
Did Mountain View ever win a state title with that group? It is the brother of the assistant coach John Neeley that coaches Mountain View, correct?
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Post by karma on Nov 7, 2022 13:31:24 GMT -5
Damuni and Miller should start immediately. Lee has work to do. She was pretty much shut down in the championship match vs Timpview. She has a couple flashy kills but had a really hard time scoring consistently. If the staff really invests in Damuni she will be better than Bower. She already puts up a bigger block (and actually leads her team in blocks), she is just as quick and has amazing defense. Above all she is a COMPETITOR. Feisty is a good word to describe her play haha. I really hope she gets a shot.
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Post by caz on Nov 7, 2022 14:14:53 GMT -5
Anyone know why Pacific is forfeiting this Thursday's match at BYU?
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