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Post by mintonetteman on Aug 20, 2022 16:50:03 GMT -5
For this set, it looks like Callahan.
Callahan played RS in sets 1-3; Stowell played RS in set 4.
Thanks, helps me understand the stats a little better. |
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Post by mintonetteman on Aug 20, 2022 17:01:12 GMT -5
Set 2 was the set where it looked like the rolled out a potential starting lineup on the white side (white won 25-11). It was the following:
LS Livingston LS E Bower / McComber
RS Grimmer MB Gneiting MB Llarenas S W Bower L Knudsen
Livingston and Grimmer were both playing six rotation. I'm guessing that Livingston is a lock for six rotations this year. They ran quite a bit of back row stuff for her. Grimmer I would still expect Dayton to rotate with her next week.
I sure hope Grimmer plays back row--not sure I can watch more rotational defense to hide a DS. Plus, not sure W. Bower's body can take it this year. |
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Post by pelagius on Aug 20, 2022 17:01:31 GMT -5
Players that got a lot of six rotation time: Livingston, Grimmer, and Stowell |
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Post by mintonetteman on Aug 20, 2022 17:46:07 GMT -5
You think Stowell converts to a DS? Pretty clear that Livingston is our big dog this year--which we knew. Sounds like she looked comfortable back row.
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Post by pelagius on Aug 20, 2022 17:51:22 GMT -5
You think Stowell converts to a DS? Pretty clear that Livingston is our big dog this year--which we knew. Sounds like she looked comfortable back row.
I didn't watch Stowell's backrow play closely enough to say ... Kind of focused on the back row play of Livingston, Grimmer, Knudsen, and McComber. BYU is thin at back row. For example, Dayton played libero in set 2. I did think Livingston looked pretty good passing (well for BYU passing), and comfortable defensively playing middle back.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 20, 2022 18:05:06 GMT -5
Okay, I just got home. The starters appeared to play together in the second set and were as follows:
OH: Livingston
OH: E. Bower
MB: Gneiting
MB: Llarenas
S: W. Bower
OPP: Grimmer
DS: McComber
L: Knudsen
I'm not sure if Knudsen or McComber will be the libero when the season starts. I think McComber is a much better floor defender and server, so I only think it makes sense to go with Knudsen if she's a much better passer, and I wasn't overly impressed from what I saw (she got aced on one serve that she tried to pass overhand, but it went right through her fingers). Hate to say it, but I think the back row will be a downgrade from last season. Allen might not have been the best passer in the world (though no one else on BYU was either), but she was very good at floor defense, serving and out-of-system setting. I think the only way that BYU's passing will improve from last year is if the six rotation players do well with passing and/or a converted OH steps in at one or both DS spots.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 20, 2022 18:11:29 GMT -5
Set 2 was the set where it looked like the rolled out a potential starting lineup on the white side (white won 25-11). It was the following:
LS Livingston LS E Bower / McComber
RS Grimmer MB Gneiting MB Llarenas S W Bower L Knudsen
Livingston and Grimmer were both playing six rotation. I'm guessing that Livingston is a lock for six rotations this year. They ran quite a bit of back row stuff for her. Grimmer I would still expect Dayton to rotate with her next week. I sure hope Grimmer plays back row--not sure I can watch more rotational defense to hide a DS. Plus, not sure W. Bower's body can take it this year. I wouldn't get your hopes up that the passing will be better. It might be worse. But at least Whitney Bower looked fully healthy. Didn't even have a knee brace. |
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Post by pelagius on Aug 20, 2022 18:27:43 GMT -5
Eden Bower reminds me some of a Fr/So McKenna Miller (Bower is bigger with better length). Not a great jumper, but a powerful arm. Still gets good power when the set isn't perfect or she has to reach back for it. I suspect she will go low seam too often. Looks like a good blocker.
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Post by mintonetteman on Aug 20, 2022 18:32:45 GMT -5
Yes, that is great news. We need a healthy W. Bower and E. Livingston. My feedback from an admittedly moderately informed and uneducated volleyball friends at the scrimmage was that we may be better in serve receive thus year but may be taking a step back in terms of floor defense. Personally, I think you need to let the season play out.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 20, 2022 18:58:20 GMT -5
The live stats are here. Since players were moving between teams, the stats need to be merged, but here are the probable starters (first three sets only): Livingston: 19-3-33 (.485), 7 digs, 1 ace, 1 block Gneiting: 12-3-19 (.474), 5 blocks Llarenas: 8-1-13 (.538), 3 blocks W. Bower 2-0-5 (.400), 29 assists, 6 digs, 2 aces, 1 block E. Bower 8-3-24 (.208), 6 digs, 2 blocks, 2 aces Grimmer: 4-1-17 (.176), 5 digs, 3 blocks, 1 ace McComber: 9 digs, 4 aces, 3 assists, 0 reception errors Knudsen: 8 digs, 2 aces, 1 assist, 3 reception errors |
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Post by mintonetteman on Aug 20, 2022 19:58:42 GMT -5
BBG95 you may be right as to McComber and Knudsen. Did they play Billeter at all as a libero? Thought she was supposed to contend?
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Post by pelagius on Aug 20, 2022 20:16:00 GMT -5
BBG95 you may be right as to McComber and Knudsen. Did they play Billeter at all as a libero? Thought she was supposed to contend?
No, she played some backrow but got very little playing time compared to most. They actually used her quite a bit as a serving sub. She's got a pretty nice float. Wouldn't be surprised to see here used as a serving sub this year.
Time at libero: McComber, Knudsen, and Dayton
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 20, 2022 20:19:23 GMT -5
BBG95 you may be right as to McComber and Knudsen. Did they play Billeter at all as a libero? Thought she was supposed to contend? I don't think so. McComber and Knudsen were usually on different teams, with the exception of set 2. Pelagius said that Dayton was the libero for the other team. I don't remember, but I'm sure he's right. The box score said Billeter had four digs. I don't remember watching her that closely. I would guess that McComber is a lock to play back row, and the other spots will be some combination of Knudsen, Dayton, Billeter and maybe Stowell. |
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Post by pelagius on Aug 20, 2022 20:21:34 GMT -5
BBG95 you may be right as to McComber and Knudsen. Did they play Billeter at all as a libero? Thought she was supposed to contend? I don't think so. McComber and Knudsen were usually on different teams, with the exception of set 2. Pelagius said that Dayton was the libero for the other team. I don't remember, but I'm sure he's right. The box score said Billeter had four digs. I don't remember watching her that closely. I would guess that McComber is a lock to play back row, and the other spots will be some combination of Knudsen, Dayton, Billeter and maybe Stowell.
Knudsen's a lock
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 20, 2022 20:23:07 GMT -5
I don't think so. McComber and Knudsen were usually on different teams, with the exception of set 2. Pelagius said that Dayton was the libero for the other team. I don't remember, but I'm sure he's right. The box score said Billeter had four digs. I don't remember watching her that closely. I would guess that McComber is a lock to play back row, and the other spots will be some combination of Knudsen, Dayton, Billeter and maybe Stowell. Knudsen's a lock
I think she's a lock to start the season. Is she a lock the entire season? I don't know. I'm not all that sold on her. I'm much more confident in McComber. It's a shame that Akana chose Texas over BYU. She would have solved a lot of the issues that were created by Allen's transfer. I hope that I'm wrong and that Knudsen turns out to be a great player at BYU. But nothing about her career at Saint Mary's or what I saw in this scrimmage makes me think that will be the case. Edit: bwf3 mentioned in the Nebraska thread that Akana's good pass percentage was 58.2%. So she would have just been a massive upgrade in all areas. |
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