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Post by mervinswerved on Mar 4, 2021 15:18:20 GMT -5
Side note: most of the way through Piketty's Capital in the Twenty First Century and went to pick up the Capital and Ideology (which apparently is more political economy than economics, so more up my alley) and saw it's almost 1100 pages, so yikes.
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Post by donut on Mar 4, 2021 15:19:06 GMT -5
Very "civil" of you.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Mar 4, 2021 15:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on Mar 4, 2021 15:26:56 GMT -5
Unwilling to reduce profits makes you a bad person? Good lord you are so arrogant. Are you willing to pledge right now to work for $10/hour your whole life and never get a raise? Why can you pursue a higher salary but not a business owner? Capitalism sux for this exact reason. Because business owners can pursue a higher salary while f*cking over their employees. All of this libertarian bullsh*t that executives/management care about their employees, and therefore we don't need regulation, is just patently false. 1) I don't think that. I think having content employees typically leads to more productive employees and a more profitable company. 2) I think we do need regulations. I think the idea of more than doubling the minimum wage to a level that matches the absolute highest minimum wage that any state has is irrational.
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Post by donut on Mar 4, 2021 15:29:09 GMT -5
Capitalism sux for this exact reason. Because business owners can pursue a higher salary while f*cking over their employees. All of this libertarian bullsh*t that executives/management care about their employees, and therefore we don't need regulation, is just patently false. 2) I think we do need regulations. I think the idea of more than doubling the minimum wage to a level that matches the absolute highest minimum wage that any state has is irrational. Why is it irrational?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Mar 4, 2021 15:38:20 GMT -5
Another nice reply Dunkee. So proud
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Post by moody on Mar 4, 2021 15:40:20 GMT -5
That’s the most civil you’ve been to NOOB.. Dunkee. So proud of you. Don't you have someone to call "retarded" or something? I saw you moved on to "Tourettes" today. That would be me. Thanks for standing up for me.
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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 4, 2021 16:13:12 GMT -5
Bad for the 1.4M people that will lose their job. The increase in prices for goods and services in some sectors of the economy. And a hit for Mom & Pop businesses in rural America.
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Post by moody on Mar 4, 2021 16:21:37 GMT -5
Bad for the 1.4M people that will lose their job. The increase in prices for goods and services in some sectors of the economy. And a hit for Mom & Pop businesses in rural America. cite your source. Otherwise your numbers are meaningless.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 4, 2021 16:23:20 GMT -5
Bad for the 1.4M people that will lose their job. The increase in prices for goods and services in some sectors of the economy. And a hit for Mom & Pop businesses in rural America. cite your source. Otherwise your numbers are meaningless. The 1.4M number comes from the GAO or somebody like that. I'd have to double check. It also came with a statement about how many more millions of people in the US it would raise out of poverty, but Blue tends to not like to quote that part.
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Post by moody on Mar 4, 2021 16:24:33 GMT -5
cite your source. Otherwise your numbers are meaningless. The 1.4M number comes from the GAO or somebody like that. I'd have to double check. It also came with a statement about how many more millions of people in the US it would raise out of poverty, but Blue tends to not like to quote that part. there's usually more to the story
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Post by mervinswerved on Mar 4, 2021 16:31:14 GMT -5
It would increase wages for 27 million workers and raise a million people out of poverty.
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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 4, 2021 17:07:06 GMT -5
The CBO report.
This is an issue that has more than one side - but I think it is disingenuous to claim that those opposed are opposed for bad motives and those that support are for good motives. There are legit reasons why some oppose despite taking a political hit.
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Post by n00b on Mar 4, 2021 17:33:54 GMT -5
It would increase wages for 27 million workers and raise a million people out of poverty. Is that assuming there is no inflation? Also, are you saying there are 27 million workers under $15/hr currently? The number of those workers who would lose their job isn't zero.
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Post by mervinswerved on Mar 4, 2021 17:45:27 GMT -5
It would increase wages for 27 million workers and raise a million people out of poverty. Is that assuming there is no inflation? Also, are you saying there are 27 million workers under $15/hr currently? The number of those workers who would lose their job isn't zero. I'm not saying it, the CBO report blue keeps referencing for his jobs loss figure says it. As for inflation, we've been running the (almost) zero interest cash machine for a while now and there doesn't seem to be much of a consequence.
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