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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 24, 2021 16:57:07 GMT -5
Is there anything I can do to help you all get along? I just want peace and unity on this board.😜 Of course, you could pi$$ off really hard, moron. It appears you can’t get along with anyone. Maybe it’s you
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Post by moody on Feb 24, 2021 16:57:19 GMT -5
I'm sure when I agree with that you will want to accuse me of imprisoning children you typed this. so what do you want to do with children who are coming to our southern border?
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Post by moody on Feb 24, 2021 16:57:48 GMT -5
Of course, you could pi$$ off really hard, moron. It appears you can’t get along with anyone. Maybe it’s you Now that's rich coming from you.
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Post by cindra on Feb 24, 2021 16:58:09 GMT -5
so what do you want to do with children who are coming to our southern border? Put them in a foster care system or similar, not in camps.
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Post by moody on Feb 24, 2021 16:59:30 GMT -5
so what do you want to do with children who are coming to our southern border? Put them in a foster care system or similar, not in camps. Perfect. I have no idea how that would work but I love the idea.
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Post by cindra on Feb 24, 2021 17:00:41 GMT -5
Alternatively, let their parents in too!
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Post by moody on Feb 24, 2021 17:04:45 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Those kids could stay at the farms around the border and work in the fields for shelter and perhaps some bread and water for room and board. What could possibly go wrong? Why do you support slave labor for these kids?
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Post by cindra on Feb 24, 2021 17:06:34 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Those kids could stay at the farms around the border and work in the fields for shelter and perhaps some bread and water for room and board. What could possibly go wrong? Why do you support slave labor for these kids? lmfao you're deluded
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Post by donut on Feb 24, 2021 17:47:01 GMT -5
Yes, but the facilities and policies weren't for asylum seekers, they were for immigration. Asylum is a small part of immigration, and asylum isn't really associated with Mexico. The vast majority of Mexican immigrants are seeking economic benefits, not protection from their home government (which is what asylum is). Most Mexican immigrants who are in defensive asylum proceedings, likely were just trying to immigrate here, and are doing whatever they can to stay. To say we need those facilities for asylum seekers is misrepresenting the situation. And I'm not being condescending, don't be so sensitive. I do understand that seeking asylum is different and a small part of immigration. That was never my point. My point was simply that during the Trump administration many people coming across our southern border were from countries in South America and were looking for asylum. These families were torn apart and some will never be able to be reunited. Please tell cindra that I oppose any children being imprisoned. You're moving the goalposts. you: It probably shouldn't. but there does need to be a facility to shelter migrants at the border don't you think? merv: Why? you: How do you think people seeking asylum should be handled?
Read: the facilities at the border are for handling asylum seekers.The facilities at the border are primarily not for asylum seekers. They are for immigrants. All asylum seekers immigrate, but most immigrants are not asylum seekers. If we had zero immigration and only asylum, I'd wager that those facilities wouldn't exist.
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 24, 2021 18:32:00 GMT -5
All this nonsense would be resolved if we just openly let anybody move in to the country for any reason (as long as they pass a criminal background check). It's crazy how many first world countries right now are terrified about their declining population of young workers and yet are also terrified of letting young workers immigrate into their country.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 24, 2021 18:35:58 GMT -5
I think we should demand more from the Biden administration then simply reducing the level of cruelty from Trump administration extra special cruelty down to just the normal level of cruelty.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 24, 2021 18:46:04 GMT -5
I do understand that seeking asylum is different and a small part of immigration. That was never my point. My point was simply that during the Trump administration many people coming across our southern border were from countries in South America and were looking for asylum. These families were torn apart and some will never be able to be reunited. Please tell cindra that I oppose any children being imprisoned. You're moving the goalposts. you: It probably shouldn't. but there does need to be a facility to shelter migrants at the border don't you think? merv: Why? you: How do you think people seeking asylum should be handled?
Read: the facilities at the border are for handling asylum seekers.The facilities at the border are primarily not for asylum seekers. They are for immigrants. All asylum seekers immigrate, but most immigrants are not asylum seekers. If we had zero immigration and only asylum, I'd wager that those facilities wouldn't exist. "Where will we jail the children if we don't put them in the child jails?" really gets to the crux of it.
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Post by donut on Feb 24, 2021 18:50:41 GMT -5
You're moving the goalposts. you: It probably shouldn't. but there does need to be a facility to shelter migrants at the border don't you think? merv: Why? you: How do you think people seeking asylum should be handled?
Read: the facilities at the border are for handling asylum seekers.The facilities at the border are primarily not for asylum seekers. They are for immigrants. All asylum seekers immigrate, but most immigrants are not asylum seekers. If we had zero immigration and only asylum, I'd wager that those facilities wouldn't exist. "Where will we jail the children if we don't put them in the child jails?" really gets to the crux of it. My gripe was conflating immigration and asylum. Thought you and cindra had a good handle on the basic human rights angle.
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Post by moody on Feb 24, 2021 21:17:58 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Those kids could stay at the farms around the border and work in the fields for shelter and perhaps some bread and water for room and board. What could possibly go wrong? Why do you support slave labor for these kids? lmfao you're deluded I am just not sure why you want to sell children into slave labor.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 24, 2021 21:24:13 GMT -5
Do you remember when Democrats had a meltdown about Wayfaire providing the beds? This is the same facility? Where is the outrage? Now it’s a wonder facility that is trying to do what’s best for the children? Please.
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