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Post by badgerbreath on Apr 1, 2021 19:45:19 GMT -5
I'm confused. I thought she was going to play somewhere as a graduate student. Next year. This spring doesn't count.
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Post by badgerbreath on Apr 1, 2021 19:47:24 GMT -5
Honestly, it's been such a brutal season and year, that I don't understand why anyone would not allow somebody to have a celebration of any sort, even a muted one like tonight.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Apr 1, 2021 19:47:34 GMT -5
Seven Badgers had Covid. Rettke couldn't stand for more than 15 minutes. Crazy. Much credit to all these young ladies on a very difficult year! Back to Back BIG TEN Champions! 38-2 over last 40 BIG TEN Matches!!
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 1, 2021 19:58:07 GMT -5
Rettke wanted to make sure people didn't forget about her for the NPOY. No shade, but I'm gonna need her to sit this tournament out, thanks.
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Post by mplssetter on Apr 1, 2021 20:19:44 GMT -5
It is remarkable how many times Wisconsin outhits its opponent by over 200 points in a match Currently .318 to .049 To be fair, they haven’t played the most challenging schedule.
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Post by badgerbreath on Apr 1, 2021 20:45:16 GMT -5
It is remarkable how many times Wisconsin outhits its opponent by over 200 points in a match Currently .318 to .049 To be fair, they haven’t played the most challenging schedule. Do you know how well the badgers did against shared opponents compared to their competitors?
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Post by TuesdayGone on Apr 1, 2021 21:52:08 GMT -5
It is remarkable how many times Wisconsin outhits its opponent by over 200 points in a match Currently .318 to .049 To be fair, they haven’t played the most challenging schedule. Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 1, 2021 21:58:46 GMT -5
To be fair, they haven’t played the most challenging schedule. Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG [b All of your data is legitimate with the exception of what would that be if you added literally 5 of the hardest matches to this? The fact your making an argument for Wisconsin based on “comparable hypotheticals “is the issue. Wisconsin is an extraordinary team and probably the best team in a great league. On court matches and results unfortunately prevent that idea from being the truth
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Post by huskerrob on Apr 1, 2021 22:08:57 GMT -5
the reality is still the reality...no playing Minnie twice, no playing PSU, Neb nor OSU...and because of that, there is no legitimacy in saying they did anything more than win the games they did play & meet the B1G screwed up standard for title. More than 1/8th of their wins didn't even have them play to earn it. You can't say they dominated the Conference, b/c they didn't play the Conference. You can't say they demonstrated a level equal to some of the past NCs because they didn't even remotely play enough to make such comparisons enter the conversation. They are getting short changed in this wacky year where the entire sport got shortchanged. Asterisk season and while none of it is their fault, that fact doesn't change the outcome & the asterisk.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 1, 2021 22:30:26 GMT -5
To be fair, they haven’t played the most challenging schedule. Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG What you’re not acknowledging is what besides their great play and undefeated record is “special” about their season compared to the league. How different would this season be if every team could take their 5 toughest matches and erase them from their schedule? I’ll say it again. I love their team, I picked their team to win conference and believe if the full schedule was played, they’d have won it. Nothing even remotely close to a full schedule occurred. It’s not binary, we can acknowledge how great this Wisconsin team is and acknowledge we didn’t have a season in which that was proven.
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Post by badgerbreath on Apr 1, 2021 22:45:24 GMT -5
Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG [b All of your data is legitimate with the exception of what would that be if you added literally 5 of the hardest matches to this? The fact your making an argument for Wisconsin based on “comparable hypotheticals “is the issue. Wisconsin is an extraordinary team and probably the best team in a great league. On court matches and results unfortunately prevent that idea from being the truth "Wisconsin is ... probably the best team in a great league. On court matches and results unfortunately prevent that idea from being the truth" You have to explain to me how these two statements are not a contradiction someday. It implies a schroedinger's competition. I understand that the matches you wanted played were not played, but in the gopher's case and in PSU's case the badgers did not postpone those matches. The badgers did postpone the husker matches, it's true, but the alternative would be to have the huskers go two weeks without playing anyone. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants any of it. So all we have to go on to assess relative performance are the performances against shared opponents. That evidence tells us that there was a pretty large difference in performance that corresponds pretty well to the difference in record. Not a small difference, a large one. That difference persisted despite long layoffs in competition that the badgers experienced. Are you suggesting that the huskers or the gophers or the buckeyes deserved the crown more? I think that's a pretty hard argument to make.They were not as efficient attacking against common opponents. They did not defend as well against common opponents. They could have made the case if one had become truly dominant over the rest, but that didn't happen. Could they have made the case if they played the matches? Sure. But they didn't. I don't know what leg you have to stand on except the wobbly leg of hopeful ambiguity. I would have much preferred that the badgers and the cornhuskers played each other. The players would have preferred it. The coaches too. But we have to live with the world we're given, and in this case there is no indication that the world we ended up living in contradicts the world that would have been. We have an unbalanced schedule normally in the B1G, but I would have congratulated PSU as cowinners of the B1G had they beaten the gophers at PSU last year, even though they clearly had the easier schedule. I can make all sorts of excuses for why the badgers lost at PSU last year, but that doesn't change the fact that the league rules hold. We can argue what-ifs, but whoever wins according to those rule wins. I will always congratulate the team that won according to the rules, while understanding that the NCAA tournament will be the ultimate arbiter (random as it is). The players have invested enough to deserve that, especially this year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 22:49:48 GMT -5
To be fair, they haven’t played the most challenging schedule. Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG do not compare them to PSU 2009 because they smoked Rutgers, A crippled Purdue and Minnesota, and Michigan State. Like other people are saying I do think that Wisconsin would have won the big ten title if they played a full schedule but can’t compare them at all to that penn state squad. They didn’t play Ohio State, Nebraska, or Penn state. Come on now.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Apr 1, 2021 22:51:15 GMT -5
Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG do not compare them to PSU 2009 because they smoked Rutgers, A crippled Purdue and Minnesota, and Michigan State. Like other people are saying I do think that Wisconsin would have won the big ten title if they played a full schedule but can’t compare them at all to that penn state squad. They didn’t play Ohio State, Nebraska, or Penn state. Come on now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 22:52:02 GMT -5
do not compare them to PSU 2009 because they smoked Rutgers, A crippled Purdue and Minnesota, and Michigan State. Like other people are saying I do think that Wisconsin would have won the big ten title if they played a full schedule but can’t compare them at all to that penn state squad. They didn’t play Ohio State, Nebraska, or Penn state. Come on now. okay ? Lol? I’m glad they won the “big ten”. Doesn’t mean they are at the same level as the PSU 2009 team. I do like this badger team a lot and after the first Purdue match I thought they were unstoppable. However, I’m not sure how they really can boast about winning the B1G. Their schedule wasn’t just unbalanced it was downright easy. I think a lot of teams could have gone undefeated against the Wisconsin slate that they actually played. Maybe not be as dominant but still go undefeated.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Apr 1, 2021 22:53:06 GMT -5
Beat the number 1 team (Massey) they could in conference by +20 points with a first team all American on bench while playing a setter who had never set a ball in college. Beat the number 3 (Massey) team they could play by +47 over 6 sets No Big Ten team has close to dominating the Big Ten like this years Wisconsin team since the 2009 PSU team Look at hitting percentage for and against Wisconsin DOMINATED Look at percentage of points vs common opposition for Wisconsin, Mn, Neb, PSU and Ohio State It is a ridiculous percentage difference Just a truly special season compared to the other teams in BIG What you’re not acknowledging is what besides their great play and undefeated record is “special” about their season compared to the league. How different would this season be if every team could take their 5 toughest matches and erase them from their schedule? I’ll say it again. I love their team, I picked their team to win conference and believe if the full schedule was played, they’d have won it. Nothing even remotely close to a full schedule occurred. It’s not binary, we can acknowledge how great this Wisconsin team is and acknowledge we didn’t have a season in which that was proven. bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=wvball
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