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Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 24, 2023 17:49:22 GMT -5
Ex-Northwestern football player Yates files suit against school CHICAGO -- Former Northwestern football player Lloyd Yates filed a lawsuit Monday against the university, outlining what he alleged was a "brainwashing culture" of hazing and abuse that became "normalized." Yates, a former quarterback and wide receiver who played at Northwestern from 2015 to 2017, became the first plaintiff to identify himself in a lawsuit against the school. www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38064188/ex-northwestern-football-player-yates-files-suit-schoolThat literally has nothing to do with the volleyball team. Fat linemen dry humping each other naked in the showers is not the same as doing suicides and carrying upper classmen bags, etc. |
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Post by slxpress on Jul 24, 2023 17:50:10 GMT -5
Ex-Northwestern football player Yates files suit against school CHICAGO -- Former Northwestern football player Lloyd Yates filed a lawsuit Monday against the university, outlining what he alleged was a "brainwashing culture" of hazing and abuse that became "normalized." Yates, a former quarterback and wide receiver who played at Northwestern from 2015 to 2017, became the first plaintiff to identify himself in a lawsuit against the school. www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38064188/ex-northwestern-football-player-yates-files-suit-schoolThe football hazing being tied with the volleyball “hazing” allegations is ridiculous. It depends on your perspective. It’s not ridiculous from the perspective of a litigation attorney trying to maximize a settlement. From that perspective it seems perfectly normal. I can’t say whether there’s anything to it, but the idea there’s not going to be an attempt to throw it in the mix and make it about an underlying culture within the entire athletic department - or the entire campus and administration if they can get away with it - seems like the more ridiculous assertion to me. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 24, 2023 17:59:14 GMT -5
It sounds to me like she broke Covid protocol which had consequences of games being cancelled, which affects the whole team. Then coaches and teammates agreed on individual consequences for her for breaking the protocol, which she didn't like or find fair. I dont have all the details, but that is what it sounds like to me. According to the lawsuit, Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 in February of that year, despite following the team’s COVID guidelines. Despite this, she says, Northwestern volleyball coach Shane Davis and an assistant coach informed her she would need to undergo a “punishment” for violating the guidelines. 2 different takes here... Well, the lawsuit certainly isn't going to say "Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 after breaking the team's COVID guidelines." That's not how you properly lawyer up. Then again, making someone run suicides after having COVID is a terrible idea, and even if Davis tasked the captains with coming up with an appropriate punishment and got that back, he should have responded with an explanation of why that isn't appropriate. |
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Post by cathy5 on Jul 24, 2023 18:09:38 GMT -5
The President sent out a letter to the “ Northwestern Community.” Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room…
I have no idea how to incorporate snapshots of the letter
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2023 18:13:36 GMT -5
According to the lawsuit, Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 in February of that year, despite following the team’s COVID guidelines. Despite this, she says, Northwestern volleyball coach Shane Davis and an assistant coach informed her she would need to undergo a “punishment” for violating the guidelines. 2 different takes here... Well, the lawsuit certainly isn't going to say "Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 after breaking the team's COVID guidelines." That's not how you properly lawyer up. Then again, making someone run suicides after having COVID is a terrible idea, and even if Davis tasked the captains with coming up with an appropriate punishment and got that back, he should have responded with an explanation of why that isn't appropriate. According to news articles, the trainer was present. A health professional. And presumably he/she didn't find it inappropriate, so why wouldn't a coach the trainer? |
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Post by tablealgebra on Jul 24, 2023 18:23:25 GMT -5
Well, the lawsuit certainly isn't going to say "Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 after breaking the team's COVID guidelines." That's not how you properly lawyer up. Then again, making someone run suicides after having COVID is a terrible idea, and even if Davis tasked the captains with coming up with an appropriate punishment and got that back, he should have responded with an explanation of why that isn't appropriate. According to news articles, the trainer was present. A health professional. And presumably he/she didn't find it inappropriate, so why wouldn't a coach the trainer? Trainers don't generally intervene in what student-athletes are directed to do by coaches. There are much more grim and consequential examples (I'm not thinking volleyball) where this has shown to be the case. |
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Post by widdledumpling on Jul 24, 2023 19:07:14 GMT -5
According to news articles, the trainer was present. A health professional. And presumably he/she didn't find it inappropriate, so why wouldn't a coach the trainer? Trainers don't generally intervene in what student-athletes are directed to do by coaches. There are much more grim and consequential examples (I'm not thinking volleyball) where this has shown to be the case. it seemed like the punishment happened at least a couple weeks after she contracted COVID. Obviously COVID can have longer-term consequences (ie heart inflammation) but for the vast majority of people they’d be completely recovered by then. Also idk, the term “suicides” makes the drill sound way more punishing than it is. It’s a really standard conditioning workout. It’s really unfortunate she got hurt while doing them, but people get injured doing high intensity exercise all the time |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jul 24, 2023 19:22:43 GMT -5
According to the lawsuit, Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 in February of that year, despite following the team’s COVID guidelines. Despite this, she says, Northwestern volleyball coach Shane Davis and an assistant coach informed her she would need to undergo a “punishment” for violating the guidelines. 2 different takes here... Well, the lawsuit certainly isn't going to say "Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 after breaking the team's COVID guidelines." That's not how you properly lawyer up. Then again, making someone run suicides after having COVID is a terrible idea, and even if Davis tasked the captains with coming up with an appropriate punishment and got that back, he should have responded with an explanation of why that isn't appropriate. What else are they gonna do? Make her drink a bottle of ketchup? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2023 19:24:19 GMT -5
The fact that the first response in situations like this is to dismiss the athlete coming forward is one of my least favorite parts of this message board.
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Jul 24, 2023 19:40:57 GMT -5
Ex-Northwestern football player Yates files suit against school CHICAGO -- Former Northwestern football player Lloyd Yates filed a lawsuit Monday against the university, outlining what he alleged was a "brainwashing culture" of hazing and abuse that became "normalized." Yates, a former quarterback and wide receiver who played at Northwestern from 2015 to 2017, became the first plaintiff to identify himself in a lawsuit against the school. www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38064188/ex-northwestern-football-player-yates-files-suit-schoolThat literally has nothing to do with the volleyball team. Fat linemen dry humping each other naked in the showers is not the same as doing suicides and carrying upper classmen bags, etc. Lawyers will want to show the entire department is out of control. Baseball players will soon be suing too. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 24, 2023 19:41:46 GMT -5
The fact that the first response in situations like this is to dismiss the athlete coming forward is one of my least favorite parts of this message board. If we're keeping track of who is dismissing and who is not, I am NOT. You don't forfeit four matches for nothing; something was going on, and I gotta believe it was a lot more than one player breaking a rule. |
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Post by ilikewaffles on Jul 24, 2023 19:43:48 GMT -5
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Post by robtearle on Jul 24, 2023 19:56:03 GMT -5
There's a LOT more to that article than just the Kelsay mention. Everyone should be sure to read it. |
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Jul 24, 2023 19:57:06 GMT -5
Ex-Northwestern football player Yates files suit against school CHICAGO -- Former Northwestern football player Lloyd Yates filed a lawsuit Monday against the university, outlining what he alleged was a "brainwashing culture" of hazing and abuse that became "normalized." Yates, a former quarterback and wide receiver who played at Northwestern from 2015 to 2017, became the first plaintiff to identify himself in a lawsuit against the school. www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38064188/ex-northwestern-football-player-yates-files-suit-schoolThe football hazing being tied with the volleyball “hazing” allegations is ridiculous. Lawyers will try to tie the baseball, football and VB hazing all together that shows the athletic dept has lost institutional control resulting in bigger paydays for the lawyers. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jul 24, 2023 19:58:26 GMT -5
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