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Post by baytree on Apr 11, 2021 14:01:56 GMT -5
Thanks. I'm not surprised that the NCAA is cutting corners with the players' health but sad that it's not a bigger story. The main place I read about it for WBB was the Stanford fan forum where ppl were really upset bc of the much lower specificity rate for antigen tests. (See also Tara Vanderveer's statement, which specifically calls this out.) They're risking players' health to cut costs (and not even cut them by much). Some ppl also guessed that they did it bc teams were more likely to be allowed to play so it would be easier overall (and less bad publicity) if they missed some asymptomatic players than if they had a more accurate test. I'm not sure if that's true but I believe that the NCAA is more concerned with $$ than the players' health. Do you know what specificity means? Low specificity means that there will be more false positives. NOT that it is is missing people who have the virus (false negatives). That’s why you antigen test first, THEN follow up with a rapid PCR to confirm. The doctor in the post you quoted says antigen tests are more likely to pick up the virus earlier. Isn’t that a good thing? My bad. I meant sensitivity. Here's a CDC blurb about an antigen test used at U of Wisconsin:
Compared with real-time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) testing, the Sofia antigen test had a sensitivity of 80.0% and specificity of 98.9% among symptomatic persons; accuracy was lower (sensitivity 41.2% and specificity 98.4%) when used for screening of asymptomatic persons.
41% sensitivity means that they missed over half the assymptomatic cases. That's really bad if your goal is to make sure that other ppl aren't exposed. Some antigen tests are better, some are worse but they aren't nearly as good at picking up assymptomatic ppl (which is the ppl you really need them to pick up) as a PCR test. Picking them up earlier would be good if (and only if) they're actually good at picking them up at all.
ETA: The story reads like the reporter doesn't want to dig down into the differences in the tests. It's more of an apology/cover for the NCAA than reporting on the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 15:23:29 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on Apr 11, 2021 15:54:29 GMT -5
So the NCAA paid for a chartered flight for every team? Can we stop calling them cheap? |
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Post by basil on Apr 11, 2021 16:08:38 GMT -5
So the NCAA paid for a chartered flight for every team? Can we stop calling them cheap? we don’t even know if the NCAA paid for it...and based on what we’ve heard about the previous lack of facilities that the women need to play the game at the highest level...they’re not off the hook yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 16:09:28 GMT -5
So the NCAA paid for a chartered flight for every team? What makes you think that? |
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Post by n00b on Apr 11, 2021 16:22:24 GMT -5
So the NCAA paid for a chartered flight for every team? What makes you think that? High Point, Samford and Montana State aren't exactly athletic departments that are rolling in dough. Yet all three are pictured there de-planing from private flights. So I don't know if they're paid for, but that's why I would think it was. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 16:27:07 GMT -5
What makes you think that? High Point, Samford and Montana State aren't exactly athletic departments that are rolling in dough. Yet all three are pictured there de-planing from private flights. So I don't know if they're paid for, but that's why I would think it was. Your assumption was incorrect. |
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Post by n00b on Apr 11, 2021 16:30:30 GMT -5
High Point, Samford and Montana State aren't exactly athletic departments that are rolling in dough. Yet all three are pictured there de-planing from private flights. So I don't know if they're paid for, but that's why I would think it was. Your assumption was incorrect. Interesting. Good to know. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 16:33:52 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on Apr 11, 2021 16:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by Kingsley on Apr 11, 2021 17:16:35 GMT -5
That’s Texas State. The other Bobcats.
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Post by n00b on Apr 11, 2021 17:19:26 GMT -5
That’s Texas State. The other Bobcats. Oops. There are some other Bobcats out there as well (Ohio, Quinnipiac, ...). No clue why Montana State came to mind. And I even know that Weber State won the Big Sky. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 11, 2021 18:10:04 GMT -5
I didn't recognize some of those airplanes, which surprised me. I think the regional jets may have been an Embraer and some variant on the 328 Jet. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 19:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 11, 2021 19:10:10 GMT -5
It used to be my job to make that noise you hear there quieter. (Not for those particular airplanes, though, so don't blame me for them.) |
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