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Post by WMegs55 on Apr 10, 2021 19:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by potato518 on Apr 10, 2021 22:07:21 GMT -5
Probably already mentioned but I’m just imagining a final four with Wisconsin, Purdue, Minnesota, and Nebraska 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by rand909 on Apr 11, 2021 1:47:55 GMT -5
Apparently the author of this article has been hired as an apologist for the NCAA. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 11, 2021 2:15:25 GMT -5
Apparently the author of this article has been hired as an apologist for the NCAA. That aren't starting off very well. "If there’s a gender equity issue — which isn’t as easy to identify as it was with basketball since the NCAA isn’t holding an equivalent men’s volleyball championship — it should be condemned in the strongest terms" Um..... |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 11, 2021 5:24:50 GMT -5
Apparently the author of this article has been hired as an apologist for the NCAA. That aren't starting off very well. "If there’s a gender equity issue — which isn’t as easy to identify as it was with basketball since the NCAA isn’t holding an equivalent men’s volleyball championship — it should be condemned in the strongest terms" Um..... It's a sport gap issue, really. It's not that Women's Volleyball is played by women. It's that it's volleyball and not basketball. |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Apr 11, 2021 8:59:09 GMT -5
Apparently the author of this article has been hired as an apologist for the NCAA. They talked about having sympathy for the NCAA😂#garbage |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 13:03:56 GMT -5
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Post by cindra on Apr 11, 2021 13:06:29 GMT -5
It's good that changes have happened but better if it didn't take prodding from the VB community in the first place |
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Post by baytree on Apr 11, 2021 13:22:59 GMT -5
That aren't starting off very well. "If there’s a gender equity issue — which isn’t as easy to identify as it was with basketball since the NCAA isn’t holding an equivalent men’s volleyball championship — it should be condemned in the strongest terms" Um..... It's a sport gap issue, really. It's not that Women's Volleyball is played by women. It's that it's volleyball and not basketball. But part of the sports gap issue is a gender gap issue. One reason VB isn't as popular and doesn't get as much publicity in the USA is that it's played primarily by women. |
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Post by baytree on Apr 11, 2021 13:24:45 GMT -5
Any news about the weight room? What kind of COVID tests are they using? That was a pretty big issue for WBB but I haven't heard anything in connection with WVB. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 13:28:21 GMT -5
Any news about the weight room? What kind of COVID tests are they using? That was a pretty big issue for WBB but I haven't heard anything in connection with WVB. in one of the OWH articles they mentioned they’re using the same tests as WBB (and the rest of the NCAA championships). MBB was different because of the county it was held it or something like that |
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Post by baytree on Apr 11, 2021 13:32:19 GMT -5
Any news about the weight room? What kind of COVID tests are they using? That was a pretty big issue for WBB but I haven't heard anything in connection with WVB. in one of the OWH articles they mentioned they’re using the same tests as WBB (and the rest of the NCAA championships). MBB was different because of the county it was held it or something like that Thanks. That's too bad since the PCR tests that they used in the MBB are more accurate, esp when it comes to picking up asymptomatic ppl with COVID. IIRC, the tests they used in the WBB tournament missed most asymptomatic ppl with COVID. They aren't that much cheaper than the PCR tests. I'm not sure why the NCAA decided to be cheap with the tests or why it's not a bigger story (for all sports, not just WBB). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 13:35:47 GMT -5
in one of the OWH articles they mentioned they’re using the same tests as WBB (and the rest of the NCAA championships). MBB was different because of the county it was held it or something like that Thanks. That's too bad since the PCR tests that they used in the MBB are more accurate, esp when it comes to picking up asymptomatic ppl with COVID. IIRC, the tests they used in the WBB tournament missed most asymptomatic ppl with COVID. They aren't that much cheaper than the PCR tests. I'm not sure why the NCAA decided to be cheap on this issue or why it's not a bigger story (for all sports, not just WBB). Here is the direct quote articleAfter arriving, members of those groups must have two more negative tests before they can participate in events or enter what the NCAA refers to as the COVID Tested Zone. That includes the practice and participation areas at the CHI Health convention center and arena. Once cleared, team members will take daily antigen tests for the coronavirus. Antigen tests, commonly used in doctor’s offices for influenza, detect proteins known as antigens that have been collected on nasal swabs or in saliva. The tests can be done quickly and cheaply. If the tests are negative, participants are good to go, Holman said. If the results are positive or inconclusive, participants will take a rapid PCR test for confirmation. PCR, or polymerase chain reaction, detects and amplifies the virus’s genetic material and is considered the gold-standard test. But some see rapid, more frequent testing as a way to screen people and catch those who are contagious. Every other NCAA tournament, Holman said, is following the same testing protocol as the volleyball tournament. The Associated Press reported that the testing protocol was among the differences between the men’s and women’s basketball tournaments cited by some coaches and players as part of a list of inequities between the two. But Dr. James Pinckney, Diamond Health’s CEO and founder, said antigen tests can pick up positive cases before they’re identified by PCR. Diamond Health uses the Quidel Sofia 2 antigen test, the same type of machine the Huskers acquired last fall for their testing program. The league’s Division 1 Volleyball Committee has the final say on whether a team is removed from the tournament, although that group takes advice from the Championship Medical Team. |
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Post by baytree on Apr 11, 2021 13:41:12 GMT -5
Thanks. That's too bad since the PCR tests that they used in the MBB are more accurate, esp when it comes to picking up asymptomatic ppl with COVID. IIRC, the tests they used in the WBB tournament missed most asymptomatic ppl with COVID. They aren't that much cheaper than the PCR tests. I'm not sure why the NCAA decided to be cheap on this issue or why it's not a bigger story (for all sports, not just WBB). Here is the direct quote articleAfter arriving, members of those groups must have two more negative tests before they can participate in events or enter what the NCAA refers to as the COVID Tested Zone. That includes the practice and participation areas at the CHI Health convention center and arena. Once cleared, team members will take daily antigen tests for the coronavirus. Antigen tests, commonly used in doctor’s offices for influenza, detect proteins known as antigens that have been collected on nasal swabs or in saliva. The tests can be done quickly and cheaply. If the tests are negative, participants are good to go, Holman said. If the results are positive or inconclusive, participants will take a rapid PCR test for confirmation. PCR, or polymerase chain reaction, detects and amplifies the virus’s genetic material and is considered the gold-standard test. But some see rapid, more frequent testing as a way to screen people and catch those who are contagious. Every other NCAA tournament, Holman said, is following the same testing protocol as the volleyball tournament. The Associated Press reported that the testing protocol was among the differences between the men’s and women’s basketball tournaments cited by some coaches and players as part of a list of inequities between the two. But Dr. James Pinckney, Diamond Health’s CEO and founder, said antigen tests can pick up positive cases before they’re identified by PCR. Diamond Health uses the Quidel Sofia 2 antigen test, the same type of machine the Huskers acquired last fall for their testing program. The league’s Division 1 Volleyball Committee has the final say on whether a team is removed from the tournament, although that group takes advice from the Championship Medical Team. Thanks. I'm not surprised that the NCAA is cutting corners with the players' health but sad that it's not a bigger story. The main place I read about it for WBB was the Stanford fan forum where ppl were really upset bc of the much lower sensitivity rate for antigen tests. (See also Tara Vanderveer's statement, which specifically calls this out.) They're risking players' health to cut costs (and not even cut them by much). Some ppl also guessed that they did it bc teams were more likely to be allowed to play so it would be easier overall (and less bad publicity) if they missed some asymptomatic players than if they had a more accurate test. I'm not sure if that's true but I believe that the NCAA is more concerned with $$ than the players' health. |
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Post by n00b on Apr 11, 2021 13:53:29 GMT -5
Here is the direct quote articleAfter arriving, members of those groups must have two more negative tests before they can participate in events or enter what the NCAA refers to as the COVID Tested Zone. That includes the practice and participation areas at the CHI Health convention center and arena. Once cleared, team members will take daily antigen tests for the coronavirus. Antigen tests, commonly used in doctor’s offices for influenza, detect proteins known as antigens that have been collected on nasal swabs or in saliva. The tests can be done quickly and cheaply. If the tests are negative, participants are good to go, Holman said. If the results are positive or inconclusive, participants will take a rapid PCR test for confirmation. PCR, or polymerase chain reaction, detects and amplifies the virus’s genetic material and is considered the gold-standard test. But some see rapid, more frequent testing as a way to screen people and catch those who are contagious. Every other NCAA tournament, Holman said, is following the same testing protocol as the volleyball tournament. The Associated Press reported that the testing protocol was among the differences between the men’s and women’s basketball tournaments cited by some coaches and players as part of a list of inequities between the two. But Dr. James Pinckney, Diamond Health’s CEO and founder, said antigen tests can pick up positive cases before they’re identified by PCR. Diamond Health uses the Quidel Sofia 2 antigen test, the same type of machine the Huskers acquired last fall for their testing program. The league’s Division 1 Volleyball Committee has the final say on whether a team is removed from the tournament, although that group takes advice from the Championship Medical Team. Thanks. I'm not surprised that the NCAA is cutting corners with the players' health but sad that it's not a bigger story. The main place I read about it for WBB was the Stanford fan forum where ppl were really upset bc of the much lower specificity rate for antigen tests. (See also Tara Vanderveer's statement, which specifically calls this out.) They're risking players' health to cut costs (and not even cut them by much). Some ppl also guessed that they did it bc teams were more likely to be allowed to play so it would be easier overall (and less bad publicity) if they missed some asymptomatic players than if they had a more accurate test. I'm not sure if that's true but I believe that the NCAA is more concerned with $$ than the players' health. Do you know what specificity means? Low specificity means that there will be more false positives. NOT that it is is missing people who have the virus (false negatives). That’s why you antigen test first, THEN follow up with a rapid PCR to confirm. The doctor in the post you quoted says antigen tests are more likely to pick up the virus earlier. Isn’t that a good thing? |
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