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Post by tedheise on Apr 20, 2021 20:45:29 GMT -5
i didn't say that (Im not saying anything about Nebraska) you said Penn State shouldn't be able to be competitive with Texas. With 3-4 All American caliber players, they absolutely should. well you definitely took the smaller part of what I was saying ignoring the fact that my main point was that Russ Rose is fantastic for being able to prepare his very outmatched team for Texas. Texas also has like 6 all American caliber players all over the court. I also wasn’t saying anything about Nebraska until a homer thought me praising Rose was dissing cook. You absolutely were saying something about Nebraska by contradicting the previous poster’s suggestion they were the best coached team. As to whether the prior assertion was correct, I’d probably say no. Nebraska had essentially the same talent as last year, but seemed to underperform. Some of that has to be on the coaches. I’m a huge UNL fan, but think calling me a homer is a bit much. Think I’m mostly pretty objective—though I do take some pleasure from poking fun at people.
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Post by n00b on Apr 20, 2021 20:57:45 GMT -5
I posted about this in the Wisconsin/Florida thread but all of the B1G teams in Omaha have lost to or struggled with teams that have 2 elite OHs who can terminate OOS. It is hard to prepare for that if you don't see them in your gym/conference. Who DOESN’T struggle with that? To be fair, I didn’t watch Florida’s losses to middling SEC teams. Did those teams do something to stop Cesar and Hall? Or did they just have off days? Same with Rice and Texas’s OHs?
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 20, 2021 21:01:26 GMT -5
who do you think the 4 best teams are then? No idea from an objective POV - I only watched a few games (if that would make a difference anyway). The schedules made it impossible to compare teams from different conferences and this tournament doesn't answer those questions. Just my opinion based on talent and what I saw the last couple days. Texas is the best team. Wisconsin might be the best team if they had played more matches over the last 6 weeks. Nebraska is the best coached team. Kentucky and Florida looked really good and talented to me. Washington and Pittsburgh are talented teams that played with a lot of guts and are easy to pull for. What makes Nebraska the best coached team?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 21:06:35 GMT -5
I posted about this in the Wisconsin/Florida thread but all of the B1G teams in Omaha have lost to or struggled with teams that have 2 elite OHs who can terminate OOS. It is hard to prepare for that if you don't see them in your gym/conference. Who DOESN’T struggle with that? To be fair, I didn’t watch Florida’s losses to middling SEC teams. Did those teams do something to stop Cesar and Hall? Or did they just have off days? Same with Rice and Texas’s OHs? They got outslugged vs S Carolina. Hall/Caesar/Carlton had 50 kills. Manning/Whitesides/Robinson had 51. Vs Georgia was a passing/setting mess. (Both losses came before Forte arrived so hardly any middle offense)
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Post by trojansc on Apr 20, 2021 21:17:49 GMT -5
(Both losses came before Forte arrived so hardly any middle offense) Why didn't Monserez set Forte to go up 4 points against Wisconsin is right up there with why didn't they give the ball to Marshawn Lynch? And why didn't Cavanaugh start left-front against Kentucky in '17?
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Post by Kingsley on Apr 20, 2021 21:19:17 GMT -5
Why didn’t KBB submit her lineup in the fifth set against Minnesota?
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Post by trojansc on Apr 20, 2021 21:23:14 GMT -5
Why didn’t KBB submit her lineup in the fifth set against Minnesota? I feel her honestly.. we don't miss swings at Minnesota on match point. There needs to be punishment.
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Post by Kingsley on Apr 20, 2021 21:24:58 GMT -5
I could explore NCAA Tournament why’s and what if’s all night long.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 21:30:47 GMT -5
well you definitely took the smaller part of what I was saying ignoring the fact that my main point was that Russ Rose is fantastic for being able to prepare his very outmatched team for Texas. Texas also has like 6 all American caliber players all over the court. I also wasn’t saying anything about Nebraska until a homer thought me praising Rose was dissing cook. You absolutely were saying something about Nebraska by contradicting the previous poster’s suggestion they were the best coached team. As to whether the prior assertion was correct, I’d probably say no. Nebraska had essentially the same talent as last year, but seemed to underperform. Some of that has to be on the coaches. I’m a huge UNL fan, but think calling me a homer is a bit much. Think I’m mostly pretty objective—though I do take some pleasure from poking fun at people. so you agree with me but when I say it it’s anti Nebraska but when you say it it’s not. Got it.
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Post by tedheise on Apr 20, 2021 22:18:45 GMT -5
You absolutely were saying something about Nebraska by contradicting the previous poster’s suggestion they were the best coached team. As to whether the prior assertion was correct, I’d probably say no. Nebraska had essentially the same talent as last year, but seemed to underperform. Some of that has to be on the coaches. I’m a huge UNL fan, but think calling me a homer is a bit much. Think I’m mostly pretty objective—though I do take some pleasure from poking fun at people. so you agree with me but when I say it it’s anti Nebraska but when you say it it’s not. Got it. Well, I don’t disagree with you, but was mostly just trying to be funny about your acknowledged bias against Cook. I get that sometimes my attempts at humor don’t succeed. To the question of best coached team, what about Florida? I didn’t see anything of them this year except their tourney match against the Badgers, but the way they took it to Wisconsin is surely evidence of great coaching.
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 21, 2021 6:56:06 GMT -5
No idea from an objective POV - I only watched a few games (if that would make a difference anyway). The schedules made it impossible to compare teams from different conferences and this tournament doesn't answer those questions. Just my opinion based on talent and what I saw the last couple days. Texas is the best team. Wisconsin might be the best team if they had played more matches over the last 6 weeks. Nebraska is the best coached team. Kentucky and Florida looked really good and talented to me. Washington and Pittsburgh are talented teams that played with a lot of guts and are easy to pull for. What makes Nebraska the best coached team? Yeah - I kind of threw this out there and I could be completely wrong. They are obviously extremely talented, so it isn't like they are getting 'more' out of this talent. It just seems like they are 'always' peaking at tournament time and they seem to be very good at preparing for the next level. I think they are always attracting the best assistant coaches. I see Penn State as being similar. On a related note - the announcers mentioned several times on Monday that Nebraska emphasis the serve and pass game (more than anyone else). I mean - who doesn't put a priority on this? Seemed like a load of crap to me?
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Post by volleyboy12 on Apr 21, 2021 7:46:55 GMT -5
I gotta say the more I think about this Final Four, the more excited I get for tomorrow night. The offensive fire, the conference champs, the fresh faces, the chance for Wisconsin's redemption, Texas' return after last season's disappointing end, Washington's survival through the tourney, and Kentucky making history. Like, how exciting for the sport and as a volleyball fan?
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Post by redbeard2008 on Apr 21, 2021 8:25:57 GMT -5
Well, I don’t disagree with you, but was mostly just trying to be funny about your acknowledged bias against Cook. I get that sometimes my attempts at humor don’t succeed. To the question of best coached team, what about Florida? I didn’t see anything of them this year except their tourney match against the Badgers, but the way they took it to Wisconsin is surely evidence of great coaching. I'm not biased against J. Cook. I just don't like him. Why are we even talking about him here? J. Cook is OUT. K. Cook is IN.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Apr 21, 2021 15:31:44 GMT -5
Of the final four teams, how many have won a championship before? I know that Texas has. Has Washington?
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Apr 21, 2021 15:34:40 GMT -5
Of the final four teams, how many have won a championship before? I know that Texas has. Has Washington? Yeah just Texas and Washington
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