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Post by jwvolley on May 11, 2021 9:28:23 GMT -5
SWP just had an incredible season in Turkey on both pins. Plummer's ceiling is insane. But Lowe....could score decently against Tiffany Clark and Symone Abbott? Tough one
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Post by donut on May 11, 2021 9:43:44 GMT -5
^I don't necessarily disagree with any of this but... Her not unseating Murphy had more to do with Murphy than anything else. Murphy's leash was... disturbingly long. I think Lowe should have unseat Murphy. I don’t agree. It had to do with Lowe’s lack of a well-rounded skillset and ability to help the team as more than just an attacker. She just didn’t do anything else well consistently enough. What else did Murphy do well? Other than in-system cross-court attacks that every elite team scouted for effectively post-2014? Definitely not blocking. Definitely not OOS swings. I'll give her the edge in backrow defense and serving, sure. I'm not even a Lowe fan. That shipped sailed in 2016 when Lowe decided international volleyball wasn't for her. I don't think she should go to Tokyo. I just can't wrap my head around defending maybe the worst long term coaching decision of the last quad (investing in Murphy) in order to bring Lowe down. |
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Post by donut on May 11, 2021 9:44:24 GMT -5
SWP just had an incredible season in Turkey on both pins. Plummer's ceiling is insane. But Lowe....could score decently against Tiffany Clark and Symone Abbott? Tough one This is the argument you make to leave Lowe home. Not that Murphy was better than her. |
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Post by Wichsen on May 11, 2021 9:45:53 GMT -5
They're literally going off for no reason at all. lmao. Facts hurt. 😩 Fact: Lowe isn't going to Tokyo. Fact: Drews and Thompson are. girl you can't even elaborate why jt is better option than lowe 😂 you think kiraly is dum* to not notice how disappointing her performance this season? She played fine in 2019 which is what 2 yrs ago? Not until we see how they perform in vnl21. Lowe has an edge based on that short clip were jt was nowhere to be found 🤔 |
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Post by donut on May 11, 2021 9:47:24 GMT -5
... did you just self-censor "dumb?"
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 9:47:38 GMT -5
I don’t agree. It had to do with Lowe’s lack of a well-rounded skillset and ability to help the team as more than just an attacker. She just didn’t do anything else well consistently enough. What else did Murphy do well? Other than in-system cross-court attacks that every elite team scouted for effectively post-2014? Definitely not blocking. Definitely not OOS swings. I'll give her the edge in backrow defense and serving, sure. I'm not even a Lowe fan. That shipped sailed in 2016 when Lowe decided international volleyball wasn't for her. I don't think she should go to Tokyo. I just can't wrap my head around defending maybe the worst long term coaching decision of the last quad (investing in Murphy) in order to bring Lowe down. so you admit you’re salty she made a decision for her own life that you didn’t agree with and you hold it against her ? That’s 1 down! |
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Post by donut on May 11, 2021 9:55:22 GMT -5
What else did Murphy do well? Other than in-system cross-court attacks that every elite team scouted for effectively post-2014? Definitely not blocking. Definitely not OOS swings. I'll give her the edge in backrow defense and serving, sure. I'm not even a Lowe fan. That shipped sailed in 2016 when Lowe decided international volleyball wasn't for her. I don't think she should go to Tokyo. I just can't wrap my head around defending maybe the worst long term coaching decision of the last quad (investing in Murphy) in order to bring Lowe down. so you admit you’re salty she made a decision for her own life that you didn’t agree with and you hold it against her ? That’s 1 down! What the actual f*ck? When you grow up a little, maybe you'll understand this: if you walk into a job interview for an engineering position, and you spent the last year selling surfboards in Santa Monica, the job interviewer is going to question your commitment to engineering. Same goes for Lowe and professional volleyball. And she's done it twice now. So no, I'm not going to root for someone to play professional volleyball when they aren't even fully committed to playing professional volleyball. Just like that interviewer is going to recommend the other guy who spent the last year working at an actual engineering job. I think 2016 Lowe was the future of the opposite position for the Tokyo quad. She had all of the momentum in the world... and she quit. And when she returned, her level of play noticeably dropped off. I'm not being salty. I'm being reasonable. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 10:16:40 GMT -5
so you admit you’re salty she made a decision for her own life that you didn’t agree with and you hold it against her ? That’s 1 down! What the actual f*ck? When you grow up a little, maybe you'll understand this: if you walk into a job interview for an engineering position, and you spent the last year selling surfboards in Santa Monica, the job interviewer is going to question your commitment to engineering. Same goes for Lowe and professional volleyball. And she's done it twice now. So no, I'm not going to root for someone to play professional volleyball when they aren't even fully committed to playing professional volleyball. Just like that interviewer is going to recommend the other guy who spent the last year working at an actual engineering job. I think 2016 Lowe was the future of the opposite position for the Tokyo quad. She had all of the momentum in the world... and she quit. And when she returned, her level of play noticeably dropped off. I'm not being salty. I'm being reasonable. quite possibly the worst analogy I’ve ever seen. (I’m an expert on bad analogies because I make them frequently) but uh those are 2 completely different things. She took some time off for whatever reason. That being her mental health, physical health, or something going on her in life. YOU don’t get to decide whether she is committed to volleyball or not. YOU don’t know what’s going on in HER life that made her quit. Also gtfo with the “what the actual f*ck” when you literally said clear as day you stopped being her fan when she quit and I called you out for it. That’s exactly what happened so I don’t know why you were so shook. Anyway. Pls don’t respond because I don’t want to have to go get my laptop just to log on and block you on a damn volleyball website Bc I don’t know how to do it on mobile! |
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Post by vbsam16 on May 11, 2021 10:18:06 GMT -5
so you admit you’re salty she made a decision for her own life that you didn’t agree with and you hold it against her ? That’s 1 down! What the actual f*ck? When you grow up a little, maybe you'll understand this: if you walk into a job interview for an engineering position, and you spent the last year selling surfboards in Santa Monica, the job interviewer is going to question your commitment to engineering. Same goes for Lowe and professional volleyball. And she's done it twice now. So no, I'm not going to root for someone to play professional volleyball when they aren't even fully committed to playing professional volleyball. Just like that interviewer is going to recommend the other guy who spent the last year working at an actual engineering job. I think 2016 Lowe was the future of the opposite position for the Tokyo quad. She had all of the momentum in the world... and she quit. And when she returned, her level of play noticeably dropped off. I'm not being salty. I'm being reasonable. Not the best analogy...professional sports are incredibly different than a desk engineering job. Physical and mental health come into play to a much greater degree. And it’s not like Lowe completely stopped playing. She played AU and has been training in the USA longer than most. Also not insane she decided to not play a covid season because no one really knew what that was going to look like. She’ll be in the conversation for sure. I truly think VNL will help the coaching staff make some decisions about who’s body can hold up for the olympics and who’s playing well. |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 11, 2021 10:29:31 GMT -5
What are international volleyball fans talking about team USA? c.tieba.baidu.com/p/73425861191. Looks like the top choice for OPP is still Drews/Lowe, Thompson is unlikely to go to Olympics 2. Hancock is jump serving again, Karch maybe paid attention to Italian League 3. Courtney is still the lib, so she will compete with Wang for a Tokyo spot. Replies: Thompson didn't sign with any team yet (reply: someone will take her) Thompson played well with Vitra at the beginning, and then.... (replies: 1. yes, beginning of the season was quite good. 2. you must have a misunderstanding of the word "good") Why are they playing vb in a basketball court Won't they choke (referring to playing ball with masks on) Karch forcing Hancock to change her topspin serve to jump float is f****** r*******. It's so difficult to find a good jump-server and you throw your own away. Courtney already messed up a key match, Wang should be the first choice for lib compared to her.
(I am way too bored. Please let May 25 come already.)
Lol I love how you kept repeating Wang. We'll gladly take her from you guys. You can take Courtney instead. (I know u meant Wong-Orantes lol) You want to take our only decent libero? |
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Post by Reach on May 11, 2021 10:37:39 GMT -5
Haha now Lowe stans can’t get it together. She’s basically the new CT so yea now that I think about it she’ll likely go instead of someone useful like MBH or Hill
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Post by donut on May 11, 2021 10:45:37 GMT -5
What the actual f*ck? When you grow up a little, maybe you'll understand this: if you walk into a job interview for an engineering position, and you spent the last year selling surfboards in Santa Monica, the job interviewer is going to question your commitment to engineering. Same goes for Lowe and professional volleyball. And she's done it twice now. So no, I'm not going to root for someone to play professional volleyball when they aren't even fully committed to playing professional volleyball. Just like that interviewer is going to recommend the other guy who spent the last year working at an actual engineering job. I think 2016 Lowe was the future of the opposite position for the Tokyo quad. She had all of the momentum in the world... and she quit. And when she returned, her level of play noticeably dropped off. I'm not being salty. I'm being reasonable. quite possibly the worst analogy I’ve ever seen. (I’m an expert on bad analogies because I make them frequently) but uh those are 2 completely different things. She took some time off for whatever reason. That being her mental health, physical health, or something going on her in life. YOU don’t get to decide whether she is committed to volleyball or not. YOU don’t know what’s going on in HER life that made her quit. Also gtfo with the “what the actual f*ck” when you literally said clear as day you stopped being her fan when she quit and I called you out for it. That’s exactly what happened so I don’t know why you were so shook. Anyway. Pls don’t respond because I don’t want to have to go get my laptop just to log on and block you on a damn volleyball website Bc I don’t know how to do it on mobile! Please block me. Not sure why you would -- the number of people who can stand you on here is dwindling, but go ahead. Your behavior right now speaks to your immaturity and blocking a poster for no reason really hammers that home, doesn't it? First off, you came for me by calling me salty, and your poor attempt at a snarky post. I was actually defending Karsta Lowe and you decided to be aggressive. Second off, why do I have to be a fan of hers? I don't! And my reasoning was (among other things), I question her commitment, AND her level of play dropped after her break in 2017. There are 12 players who get a Tokyo spot -- why would I waste energy on someone who I don't know even wants to push for a spot?? We didn't even know she was still interested in Tokyo/USA NT after the USC announcement (until she signed up for AU, and even then, we weren't sure how serious she was)! Me not being a fan of her doesn't mean I think she's a bad person, or I hate her, or I want her to stop playing volleyball. I'm not a fan of her for one of the Tokyo opposite spots. There's nothing inappropriate about that. If she disclosed that she was having mental health concerns, I apologize. I did not see that. I am not comfortable with prescribing mental health issues to someone, however, who hasn't disclosed them. I remember her reasoning for stepping away as being: she didn't like playing overseas. If playing overseas is a prerequisite for playing on the US Olympics team, which I think it is, then me saying "hmmmm, I'm going to divest from being a fan of hers," is again, entirely appropriate. |
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Post by donut on May 11, 2021 10:50:07 GMT -5
What the actual f*ck? When you grow up a little, maybe you'll understand this: if you walk into a job interview for an engineering position, and you spent the last year selling surfboards in Santa Monica, the job interviewer is going to question your commitment to engineering. Same goes for Lowe and professional volleyball. And she's done it twice now. So no, I'm not going to root for someone to play professional volleyball when they aren't even fully committed to playing professional volleyball. Just like that interviewer is going to recommend the other guy who spent the last year working at an actual engineering job. I think 2016 Lowe was the future of the opposite position for the Tokyo quad. She had all of the momentum in the world... and she quit. And when she returned, her level of play noticeably dropped off. I'm not being salty. I'm being reasonable. Not the best analogy...professional sports are incredibly different than a desk engineering job. Physical and mental health come into play to a much greater degree. And it’s not like Lowe completely stopped playing. She played AU and has been training in the USA longer than most. Also not insane she decided to not play a covid season because no one really knew what that was going to look like. She’ll be in the conversation for sure. I truly think VNL will help the coaching staff make some decisions about who’s body can hold up for the olympics and who’s playing well. Come up with a better analogy then. When evaluating someone for a role, commitment to that role should be a criteria. This is true for most/all professional roles, including those in sports. We are evaluating opposites for the US Olympics team in Tokyo. Thus, commitment to that role should be a criteria. |
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Post by chicagosports on May 11, 2021 10:50:34 GMT -5
I’m just dropping in as the “Cuttino stan” to remind y’all Cuttino exists… But I know well enough her chances are SLIM, so I’m actually just here to enjoy the drama.
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Post by Wichsen on May 11, 2021 11:01:05 GMT -5
I’m just dropping in as the “Cuttino stan” to remind y’all Cuttino exists… But I know well enough her chances are SLIM, so I’m actually just here to enjoy the drama. exactly.cuttino should be on this discussion. Jt stan wanted the spot for her even that poor performance then why the heck some are concern with adams, tori making it to tokyo? 😂 Am confused. |
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